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Ghoul said:
It's useful for the non-BB crowd to connect with QSC, but very little productive discussion takes place there.

You can see there's a dynamic over there, because of QSC steroid offerings I'm sure, where guys who begin with GLPs, now over the once unthinkable idea of injecting themselves, start getting curious about TRT, and gear enhanced working out.
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This is me exactly. Once I realized how easy injection is, I started dreaming of the possibilities. Now I’ve moved from Tirz to TRT with an “optimization” mentality.
 
Obeast88 said:
Tracy had my GB 36iu kits paid for on the 27 of June and just received notification of tracking that it’s sent back to customer in china? Emailed Bella and waiting on a response to see what we can do about this. But as for this list the bpc says 200, how much bpc is in this order??
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Same here on my 10iu GB. Both packs returned to customers. Already confirmed a reship, but still this sucks, 3 weeks wasted.
 
QuantumCornerie said:
Percentage reductions mean fuck all if we don't know what the levels were beforehand. They were most likely complete slobs before starting it and the drug made them lose weight and weight loss / diet changes affect those markers. All we know is 320 -> 250lbs given that data. Not shocking at all.
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See, during the trials they make you "non slobby" You can actually get kicked out of trials for doing stupid stuff. No one is going to let an RS contaminate safety/adverse event reports on a $100m research cos a research subject wants to keep smoking and eating deep fried ice-cream burgers. That is why until the drugs hit the public, there were no reports of it dulling a desire to consume alcohol. To see the effects in the absence of medications, you compare them with placebo folks who had only diet and exercise alone. remember, placebo folks also lost weight and improved certain parameters. They also lost less lean muscle mass compared with those on medication. However their overall state was still not as good as those on the medication.
 
Middus said:
See, during the trials they make you "non slobby" You can actually get kicked out of trials for doing stupid stuff. No one is going to let an RS contaminate safety/adverse event reports on a $100m research cos a research subject wants to keep smoking and eating deep fried ice-cream burgers. That is why until the drugs hit the public, there were no reports of it dulling a desire to consume alcohol. To see the effects in the absence of medications, you compare them with placebo folks who had only diet and exercise alone. remember, placebo folks also lost weight and improved certain parameters. They also lost less lean muscle mass compared with those on medication. However their overall state was still not as good as those on the medication.
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There's reports on the retra Reddit where trial participants post and some have been told to ease off on the weight loss as after a certain % by the research team. Otherwise they have to adjust the dose according to study protocols, and that obviously has an impact on reporting the study data.
Obviously Reddit is a cesspit at the best of times, so I take everything with a grain of salt or two.
Your point stands, all clinical trials will have strict lifestyle requirements participants must follow so the researchers can have data within the set parameters. Companies aren't wasting millions because billy-bob and Karen can't adhere to diet or exercise instructions when participating in the study.
With regards to medicated Vs placebo groups all studies are ran different and researchers have their guidelines in place to allow for easy interpretation and publication of results. I'm far too lazy to read all the trials.
Reports of muscle loss are generally, from those not resistance training or taking adequate protein. Most I've seen are individuals reporting their own results on message boards and Reddit.
Enhanced individuals will not suffer the same results as obviously we would be taking peds, training, and tracking protein, all which hinder muscle loss. Obviously while dropping extreme amounts of weight some muscle loss will occur. Nothing I've seen would indicate any of them having a profound impact on muscle retention in trained individuals.
Personally I am going to run either sema/tirz/retra, coming back from a bad bout of depression and injury. My ADHD came with a lovely binge eating disorder which always hinders my weight loss on a cut. While they won't prevent my brain screaming eat the crap when it wants dopamine, they will decrease my appetite and hunger signaling, and from past fasting experiences. When I'm completely not hungry, even after days of not eating, I don't get those cravings or binge.
For those with eating disorders and people with poor diet adherence these drugs could be complete life changers, especially among the enhanced community.
If anyone has personal experience with sema/tirz/retra they'd like to share (weight loss/ time on/ dosing) hit my DMS please. It would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for the rant the ritalin took the wheel.
 
HB_22 said:
As for the group buy of retatrutide and AOD-9604, will they be in the same vial or do they come as 2 separate kits? Im asking because retatrutide has a long half life and AOD-9604 idealy needs to be applied daily.
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100% 2 separate vials. The reason they’re in the same column is because they’re both peptides.
 
HB_22 said:
As for the group buy of retatrutide and AOD-9604, will they be in the same vial or do they come as 2 separate kits? Im asking because retatrutide has a long half life and AOD-9604 idealy needs to be applied daily.
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I think only Cagrisema will be single vial. The others may involve kit combos to meet MOQ
 
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