jj89
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Got a recipe for that by any chance mate?
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Check @Spaceman Spiff thread
egruberman
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Which proves what?
We already know that peptides degrade less slowly at -20C vs. -8C and other member have already proven their ability to make a consumer freezer hold -20C. Again, these are qualitative differences.
We don't have a control for the experiment. Is there a vial from the same batch that was stored in a refrigerator for the same period of time? That, at least would have been interesting information.
HB_22
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I would love to see that experiment. I think 6 months is plenty, fridge vs freezer vs room temperature (dark place).
Let's just do this and we can all pay together for the test, I have shit load of peptides or hgh, no problem wasting 2-3 vials. I can even put it in two different freezers and fridges so we can even see the difference between one fridge/freezer used specifically to hold peptides and one that is used for normal stuff as well so it gets opened frequently.
Just let me know guys if you are interested and we can make a thread and start gathering ppl. If we pile up together it's gonna cost peanuts and we can squash this debacle once and for all
Finally someone actually starts something tangible not just all talk. You could probably start a thread over at the testing section.
The majority of people here use hgh and peptides, you should be able to pool enough money to get it done.
AnTabolic73
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I'd be interested in knowing how long peptides last reconstituted in bac water in fridge.
For e.g. I get 50mg tirz. If I'm on 10mg will it last the 5 weeks? If I'm on 5mg, will it last the 10 weeks?
For e.g. I get 50mg tirz. If I'm on 10mg will it last the 5 weeks? If I'm on 5mg, will it last the 10 weeks?
somenameforme
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My international order took 21 days to arrive after the final order confirmation from Tracy's team. I think it would have been delivered sooner, were it not for a delay from the partner facility. Everything was well cushioned within a discrete package. I have a separate order issue they are assisting me with, even though it is not something they can control. Overall their team has been great.
Thanks, QSC!
Thanks, QSC!
SpicyMeatball
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It’s going to depend a lot on the peptide. Tirz and hgh will degrade at different rates. Lots of testing is needed on this topic
Qingdao Sigma Chemicals
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There have been a test on our tirz from 1 year ago and looks like degradation was minimal, I think it’s gonna be released in a month or so
jdubzzz44
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Another fast int TD. Tracy and the girls are kicking butt
egruberman
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Would be cool if you could log the temperature for the duration. We'd need baseline tests from the beginning as well for the same batch.
I'll be amused if this happens as a result of all of us being so annoyed at this debate.
It proves storing peptides in the freezer, even HGH, doesn't destroy them.
Also that Ghoul continues to be confidently wrong in his numerous areas of expertise.
The whole "argument", which you even mentioned a few pages back is that household freezers will destroy HGH by repeated phase changes.
Ignoring the fact that this argument was stupid from the start, this test proves that was false.
Can you do another test with a control, refrigerator, and freezer sample? Sure, that's an entirely different conversation.
The science on this has already been done (for the last 30 years!). In fact, our boy ghoul pulled graphs from a study and used them to conclude no more degradation happens in the fridge. He didn't reference the study, but unfortunately for him it was easy to find it. Lo and behold, when you read the study, it turns out the sample degraded 4% in the fridge but didn't in the freezer. Poor guy didn't think anyone would check his work.
egruberman
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That wasn't anyone's argument, not even ghoul's. His argument was that repeated state changes from frozen to unfrozen would cause more degradation than was gained by storing the peptides in a freezer in the first place.
it was already proven that a consumer grade freezer could sustain -20C in a stable fashion. In that sense ghoul was wrong, but only because his assertion was poorly formed, so let me help:
I'm going to assert that the consumer grade freezers that most people have won't hold -20C without some care. Some will perform better than others. Your standard top freezer on a common refrigerator tends to warm up very quickly. A bottom mount freezer in a drawer tends to work a bit better and a chest freezer best of all. This all presumes that the freezer has been adjusted lower than is typical (-18C)
With that in mind, let's say your aunt Karen is on grey market semaglutide and asks you how to store her 6 month supply? What are you going to tell her? Put it in the freezer, but make sure little Bobby doesn't hold it open for five minutes trying to pick out a popsicle or are you going to tell her to
throw it in the fridge and forget about it?
Freezer equipment aside, the open questions that we have are the relative rate of degradation of various peptides at -8C vs -20C presuming stable conditions. Further, what is the degree if degradation that occurs when a stored peptide goes from -20C to room temperature once, five times, ten times, etc.
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egruberman
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Which study was this?
Spaceman Spiff
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Except I wanted to 1 up you and went for 500
I love starting trends
not 400 like some sort of Commie
ZyzzReincarnate
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The QSC discord just got shut down.
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