egruberman
Well-known Member
The Dr they had as a guest has prescribed the drugs frequently and made several good points, but principal among them was that the drugs are only a tool and you need to get your house in order in terms of diet and exercise or its a waste of time in writing the script.
Basically regardless of what a person's excuse might be for obesity (metabolism, the food industry, compulsive behavior), the individual simply has to man the fuck up and accept responsibility. Always giving yourself an out by falling back on the excuse is a huge mental roadblock for people that will be a thorn in the side of progress IMO.
How is any of this helpful to anyone other than to reinforce the stereotype of fat people among those that aren't? Fuck that doctor. "Waste of time" my ass.
Yes, diet and exercise are great, people should do them, but going from metabolically unhealthy to metabolically healthy is categorically an improvement regardless of how its achieved.
I am starting to get sick of this shit on this forum. Shut the fuck up about fat people and fucking train already.
Do any of you cut down to like 8-10% bf? People say you should only cut at 500 deficit once you get down to ~13% bf. Is that true or can I just continue cutting to 8% on a 1000 calorie deficit? Trying to permanently remove some stubborn fat I got on my chest from being an 300+lb obese bastard in the past. If it matters I'm also 6'4 so 2lbs a week is still under 1% of my weight a week.
As a former fat ass, I cut down to ~7% recently according to a DEXA scan. I *still* had fat deposits in my lower abdomen, my lower back, and a bit under my chest all while being veiny as hell everywhere else. On a bulk presently and around 9%, probably will begin cutting again before I reach 12%. I figure I need to hit 5% or so get rid of that last bit of fat. From there, I'll likely need to get some excess skin removed.