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[Rippidy Dippidy]

Yeah bro, no one does that. It is very difficult to out eat glp that is working.
You are simply forcing your experience on others. lol. Because 1mg of Sema knocks you out doesn't mean that is how it affects everyone, else they would not have stepped up to 2.4 in clinical trials. Now they've just wrapped up safety tests on 7.2mg.There must have been something they noticed that helped them to convince the FDA beyond.."some people eat their away out or treatment"

You can 100% out eat a GLP agonist. Most the people that come to me for "info" on it their first question is roughly "can i eat whatever i want and still lose weight" because they don't actually want to put in any work. which again is what I'm sick of.
Zero will power to do anything for themselves other than making excuses why they're fat.

 

[SpicyMeatball]

But yeah I have no idea how folks get to those mega doses I’m miserable even at starter doses and don’t seem to build a tolerance.

Is it that hard to comprehend that different bodies react differently and therefore need different dosages to achieve similar effects?

 

[Middus]

You can 100% out eat a GLP agonist. Most the people that come to me for "info" on it their first question is roughly "can i eat whatever i want and still lose weight" because they don't actually want to put in any work. which again is what I'm sick of.
Zero will power to do anything for themselves other than making excuses why they're fat.

I said out eat a GLP-1 that is 'working'
Again this is all about your mindset and ideology. It is quite normally human to want to eat your cake and have it. If DNP wasn't so toxic and forced people to eat a certain way, almost anyone would want to eat what they want and take DNP. What is the selling point of SLU and BAM?
Researchers try create exercise mimetics for obese 60-70 year olds too old to get in decent cardio and resistance, gym bros hop on it trying to simulate work-outs with less input.
Researchers look into mitochondrial uncouplers (shit like DNP) like BAM-15 for the same reasons, peeps too old and too fat to get the best gains out of exercise, body builders on a cut want to use it as an easy way out.
It's not unique to fat people. All human beings would literally and figuratively love to eat their cakes and still have it. Its human nature not fatso nature

 

[Jeffholio5]

Is it that hard to comprehend that different bodies react differently and therefore need different dosages to achieve similar effects?

I just got schooled by @Ghoul but yeah I guess I was under the wrong impression about how much variety there is to peoples glp receptor responses. Tbf though I’m a former/pseudo current fatty so I assumed I’d fall into the category that would require more medication but I guess I’m just lucky I get the intended effect from it.

 

[Middus]

Same thing goes for myostatin inhibitors. I mean you have gear to help you build muscle. WTF do you need something nature created to normalise muscle size? and if you want bigger muscles, why not just take gear and build your way to huge gains my hitting the weights?

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

I said out eat a GLP-1 that is 'working'
Again this is all about your mindset and ideology. It is quite normally human to want to eat your cake and have it. If DNP wasn't so toxic and forced people to eat a certain way, almost anyone would want to eat what they want and take DNP. What is the selling point of SLU and BAM?
Researchers try create exercise mimetics for obese 60-70 year olds too old to get in decent cardio and resistance, gym bros hop on it trying to simulate work-outs with less input.
Researchers look into mitochondrial uncouplers (shit like DNP) like BAM-15 for the same reasons, peeps too old and too fat to get the best gains out of exercise, body builders on a cut want to use it as an easy way out.
It's not unique to fat people. All human beings would literally and figuratively love to eat their cakes and still have it. Its human nature not fatso nature

Of course a GLP that is WORKING they're going to lose weight, because in order to achieve the sense of a GLP working it would need to be successfully helping them lose weight...
If a GLP is WORKING and their appetite is suppressed but they still choose to eat a chocolate bar and GAIN weight the next day, it is now considered a GLP that is NOT working...
Not exactly sure why you're saying it's my mindset, this is a very simple understanding.

 

[Middus]

I just got schooled by @Ghoul but yeah I guess I was under the wrong impression about how much variety there is to peoples glp receptor responses. Tbf though I’m a former/pseudo current fatty so I assumed I’d fall into the category that would require more medication but I guess I’m just lucky I get the intended effect from it.

Bruh, I was a 365lbs fatty and playing Rugby and Soccer. My Lipids and bloodwork used to surprise Docs, especially the ones that had all the answers before calling for tests. My BP was barely pushing over 145 systolic. Hr was 65. I just knew it was not sustainable for my body to keep up and looked for a way out. Te funny thing is that because of some previous actions i sought, GLP1s offer zero appetite suppression for me. But still work.. lol

 

[Middus]

Of course a GLP that is WORKING they're going to lose weight, because in order to achieve the sense of a GLP working it would need to be successfully helping them lose weight...
If a GLP is WORKING and their appetite is suppressed but they still choose to eat a chocolate bar and GAIN weight the next day, it is now considered a GLP that is NOT working...
Not exactly sure why you're saying it's my mindset, this is a very simple understanding.

This is just ideology. You despise fat folks that's all. Your understanding of how GLPs work is even shoddy, especially with your Women and Sides comment.. especially regarding GLP1s. Anyway, I need to go and be useful somewhere else. I doubt this has been productive for anyone.

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

Bruh, I was a 365lbs fatty and playing Rugby and Soccer. By Lipids and bloodwork used to surprise Docs, especially the ones that had all the answers before calling for tests. My BP was barely pushing over 145 systolic. Hr was 65. I just knew it was not sustainable for my body to keep up and looked for a way out. Te funny thing is that because of some previous actions i sought, GLP1s offer zero appetite suppression for me. But still work.. lol

I would love to argue that you THINK it had no appetite suppression in them when in fact that's the soul reason why you lost the weight.
Something you didn't even notice.

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

This is just ideology. You despise fat folks that's all. Your understanding of how GLPs work is even shoddy, especially with your Women and Sides comment.. especially regarding GLP1s. Anyway, I need to go and be useful somewhere else. I doubt this has been productive for anyone.

You just said GLP agonist didn't suppress any appetite whatsoever which is simply stating you ate the exact same amount of calories day in and day out YET you still lost weight AND IM THE ONE WHO DOESNT UNDERSTAND GLP 1 AGONISTS ? LOL bro go to bed

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

This is just ideology. You despise fat folks that's all. Your understanding of how GLPs work is even shoddy, especially with your Women and Sides comment.. especially regarding GLP1s. Anyway, I need to go and be useful somewhere else. I doubt this has been productive for anyone.

I don't mind fat folks at all, I love helping people that want the help.. not people who want a magical pill to take all their problems away while not even TRYING to diet or go for a walk. That's what i hate. Has absolutely nothing to do with "fat" people. That's just the people who often WANT to do nothing.
Hence the reason why they're fat.
I've helped multiple people lose their goal weight, gave them the blue print and what they need with NO drugs. That way they can lose the weight on the drop of a dime any time they want.
A handful of people had the will power to do it and the other 90% blew it off like it was too hard and choose their taste buds over their health.

 

[Benf15harp]

Gawwwdd damn! @Benf15harp I know you love wet box here you go.

Damn that’s one of those you’d have slap a few times before going to work on that thang lol

 

[SpicyMeatball]

I don't mind fat folks at all, I love helping people that want the help.. not people who want a magical pill to take all their problems away while not even TRYING to diet or go for a walk. That's what i hate. Has absolutely nothing to do with "fat" people. That's just the people who often WANT to do nothing.
Hence the reason why they're fat.
I've helped multiple people lose their goal weight, gave them the blue print and what they need with NO drugs. That way they can lose the weight on the drop of a dime any time they want.
A handful of people had the will power to do it and the other 90% blew it off like it was too hard and choose their taste buds over their health.

I don’t know what people have against drugs as “shortcuts”. I fucking love drugs. Modern medicine is a damn miracle, we live 25 years longer on average today than 80 years ago, back when people worked their asses off, didn’t eat processed foods, and didn’t have model medicine. Glp1s are going to bump that average up another 5-10 years at least. Drugs are good. Take em. Live a better, longer life than they did without em.

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

I don’t know what people have against shortcuts. I fucking love drugs. Modern medicine is a damn miracle, we live 25 years
longer on average today than 80 years ago, back when people worked their asses off, didn’t eat processed foods, and didn’t have model medicine. Drugs are good. Take em. Live a better, longer life than they did without em.

I’m not against short cuts, I also use Sema etc to lose weight (appetite suppression). But what I don’t do is say I’m gonna build 50lbs of muscle and become a bodybuilder, then roll into GNC for protein isolate, drink it everyday, then sit on my couch doing nothing expecting to build muscle.

 

[Middus]

I would love to argue that you THINK it had no appetite suppression in them when in fact that's the soul reason why you lost the weight.
Something you didn't even notice.

Dude, You reason in a very simple manner. I know what I am saying. It's too late for me to start educating you about post bariatric surgery levels of ghrelin and the link between Glp-1s, Ghrelin and appetite suppression, but it is documented. Just know that folks that have had sleeves especially have way less appetite suppression than folks like you, talking about droplets of ozempic working magic. our ghrelin leptin balance is quite different,

 

[Middus]

You just said GLP agonist didn't suppress any appetite whatsoever which is simply stating you ate the exact same amount of calories day in and day out YET you still lost weight AND IM THE ONE WHO DOESNT UNDERSTAND GLP 1 AGONISTS ? LOL bro go to bed

Yes, appetite suppression is but one of the ways. There is also improved insulin sensitivity, reduction in fat synthesis, and also increased metabolism. Sema raised my hear rate from 65 -75/80.Probably part of the reason Tesamorelin works for me than many, but yeah. Keep thinking it's as simple as appetite suppression. You might want to talk with folks on reta too.
By the way, you sort of assume that because They don't curb my appetite, I'm somehow gorging on massive amounts of quarter pounders and downing it with gallons of 7up. Like it said, it's mostly in your head.
I feel hungry doesn't mean that I stuff my mouth. Appetite doesn't always correlate with size of meals downed.
Perhaps i should say it better. I am yet to have any sides on GLP-1s. Zero nausea, Zero fatigue e.t.c Cagri on the other hand bricked my stomach so bad I assumed i had paralytic ileus and have avoided it ever since.
FYI Why do you assume It's bed time where am at ?
Again, your personal outlook is not representative of that of everyone you're interacting with..
Wish i could say It's been nice chatting bruv but.. Laters..

 

[PnkCy]

Great, another 50+ pages worth of useless GLP-1 discussion.

On QSC thread. EVERY DAMN TIME. Aren't y'all tired of this shit?

 

[BamaCrazy]

Great, another 50+ pages worth of useless GLP-1 discussion.

On QSC thread. EVERY DAMN TIME. Aren't y'all tired of this shit?

You just joined Meso ladt month. How are you tired of anything?

 

[IronJohnDoe]

So the Oils from the promo have arrived today.
Nice one QSC
@Qingdao Sigma Chemicals



I do have a question however

My previous Sustanon kits were yellowish while this are clear.
What's the reason?

Pic below, purple was the old Sustanon and the grey the one arrived today:

 

[mochul]

So the Oils from the promo have arrived today.
Nice one QSC
@Qingdao Sigma Chemicals

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I do have a question however

My previous Sustanon kits were yellowish while this are clear.
What's the reason?

Pic below, purple was the old Sustanon and the grey the one arrived today:

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oxidation. More time, more heat it get's more yellow. Same thing happens with my homebrew with any test ester.