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Qualify it a bit. not all sterile water is....

Sterile Water is not pyrogen free (unless it's specifically labeled as such). Sterile Water for Injection is sterile water that's been further processed to be pyrogen free.

No one's randomly going through the expense of making sterile water pyrogen free. Sterile water is cheaper to make than distilled water.

It's like saying "Water isn't bacteriostatic." and responding with "Not all water is bacteriostatic".
 
Be sure to check that it is not "water for irrigation" too though. Stuff will burst cells at the point of injection depending on which pep is injected


There's also Sterile Water for Inhalation. Also not pyrogen free.

The. there's just plain old:

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And on another note, according to a 2013 federal law, it's illegal to dispense Sterile Water for Injection without a prescription, unless you're on a drug treatment program, and then only in 2ml one time use vials.....
 
Sterile Water is not pyrogen free (unless it's specifically labeled as such). Sterile Water for Injection is sterile water that's been further processed to be pyrogen free.

No one's randomly going through the expense of making sterile water pyrogen free. Sterile water is cheaper to make than distilled water.

It's like saying "Water isn't bacteriostatic." and responding with "Not all water is bacteriostatic".
Just saying you should qualify it. Many store fronts on amazon usually realise that there is an obvious reason someone is seeking sterile water online so a lot of sterile water sold there is pyrogen free.
 
We are talking about the water we use to administer peptides sq and we have to specify that the water will have to be for injection now?

What is this, Idiocracy: Juiced Edition?

Considering this started with someone suggesting Sterile Water is ok to use with a multi dose vial. not BAC, so that's already a health risk, and Amazon will literally not sell you water labeled "for injection" without a prescription, don't you think it may be useful to point out the only type that should be injected is pyrogen free sterile water, and not one of the others they sell?
 
We are talking about the water we use to administer peptides sq and we have to specify that the water will have to be for injection now?

What is this, Idiocracy: Juiced Edition?
LoL.. Just "harm reduction" lol. I mean one can get away with using water for irrigation for sq.. Especially if following correct practice for SQ injections (i.e not more than 1ml in a spot). However some people give themselves IV injections. Using 'water for irrigation' for an IV administration is asking for trouble. I sometimes give myself IV injections, so I may be projecting my own personal concerns.
 
Considering this started with someone suggesting Sterile Water is ok to use with a multi dose vial. not BAC, so that's already a health risk, and Amazon will literally not sell you water labeled "for injection" without a prescription, don't you think it may be useful to point out the only type that should be injected is pyrogen free sterile water, and not one of the others they sell?
I appreciate your efforts in harm reduction, and your informative posts, but you can't fix stupid unfortunately. Some people are beyond saving / don't have the intelligence to understand your posts. If someone is injecting random sterile water on amazon then they have bigger problems and that's just the beginning of their unsafe practices.
 
LoL.. Just "harm reduction" lol. I mean one can get away with using water for irrigation for sq.. Especially if following correct practice for SQ injections (i.e not more than 1ml in a spot). However some people give themselves IV injections. Using 'water for irrigation' for an IV administration is asking for trouble. I sometimes give myself IV injections, so I may be projecting my own personal concerns.

The purpose of bacteriostatic water is to prevent bacterial growth. Considering protein is a primary food source, it's really not wise to use vial that's been around more than a day if it's not reconstituted with BAC. That hardly a bubble boy issue.
 
I appreciate your efforts in harm reduction, and your informative posts, but you can't fix stupid unfortunately. Some people are beyond saving / don't have the intelligence to understand your posts. If someone is injecting random sterile water on amazon then they have bigger problems and that's just the beginning of their unsafe practices.

Plenty have suggested distilled water is ok. And I'll bet you - a lot, if not most, UGL "Bac", including the obviously home made "reconstitution solution" shit on Amazon, is, at best, using distilled water, mixed up in whatever, and bottled in a garage.

Considering 99% of what you inject is the reconstitution solution. my mantra will always be pharma (or homemade using pharma WFI+BA) should be the only choice.
 
Can anybody comment on the "stealth" of international AAS raw orders? I've only ever ordered from US warehouse so relatively low risk there. International orders give me a little cautious pause. Thanks.
 
The funny thing is that this happens to natural peptides the human body produces. Even up to a 10th of circulating Growth hormone is dimers/oligomers.

And still. 10-20% of patients using pharma grade HGH, develop immunogenic reactions strong enough to reduce the effectiveness ( "inhibition" in the chart) of GH, and 2-3% end up treatment failures because even with a break of a couple of years, the antibodies they developed during treatment won't allow the HGH to work again. It's interesting that one strategy to overcome immunogenicity is to switch brands, since the contaminant profile differs between each.

(note in the chart below, it can take years of steadily building immunogenicity to cause a problem. It doesn't always happen immediately).


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Unlike other peptides though, GH antibody tests are available at walk in test centers so if it's "not working like it used to", unlike GLPs, you can actually measure this and see if it's the cause.

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Keeping immunogenicity down where you can, with a few simple practices. makes sense. No one has to go to extremes, we're talking simple stuff here anyone can do with little effort. Filtering is probably the most time consuming, but if
you don't want to do that, using pharma BAC and smaller dose vials will help.
 
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