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[Middus]

Sterile water isn't pyrogen free. That takes much more work to produce. and all injectables are required to be pyrogen free by the FDA.

Nothing draws the attention of the immune system like pyrogens being injected subcutaneously.

When injected along with protein therapeutics, like peptides, this "hyperactivated" immune response not only rapidly attacks pyrogens, but the proteins. The reason one doesn't "have any problems" with sterile water is because the body is so aggressive and effective at getting rid of pyrogens in subq tissue. It's the area we evolved to survive external infection from most effectively.

So now your body is filled with antibodies ready to destroy those peptides, and prepared to do it even more effectively next time.

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Qualify it a bit. not all sterile water is....

 

[Middus]

One of these days someone playing the "what peptide of horror can we create by throwing random amino chains together and seeing what happens when they combine?" will hit the jackpot and make a last post about the inexplicable holes appearing in their brain.


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The funny thing is that this happens to natural peptides the human body produces. Even up to a 10th of circulating Growth hormone is dimers/oligomers.

 

[Alias Chosen]

Dang. Thanks Tracy. Hopefully restock sooner than later

He mentioned earlier that there are currently no suppliers in China offering Primo or Mast raws, so it might be some time before these become available again.

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

We have some 5-amino 20mg in EU

Canada just left in the dark on this fine Christmas I see how it is.

 

[Ghoul]

Come again?

Sterile Water is less pure than distilled water. It just means it's been heated to the point of killing living organisms like bacteria.



Sterile Water FOR INJECTION is sterile water that's been further purified to remove pyrogens, endotoxin, and other particulate matter.

 

[Middus]

Just buy sterile water on Amazon. I've used it for years and never had an issue.

Be sure to check that it is not "water for irrigation" too though. Stuff will burst cells at the point of injection depending on which pep is injected

 

[Ghoul]

Qualify it a bit. not all sterile water is....

Sterile Water is not pyrogen free (unless it's specifically labeled as such). Sterile Water for Injection is sterile water that's been further processed to be pyrogen free.

No one's randomly going through the expense of making sterile water pyrogen free. Sterile water is cheaper to make than distilled water.

It's like saying "Water isn't bacteriostatic." and responding with "Not all water is bacteriostatic".

 

[Ghoul]

Be sure to check that it is not "water for irrigation" too though. Stuff will burst cells at the point of injection depending on which pep is injected

There's also Sterile Water for Inhalation. Also not pyrogen free.

The. there's just plain old:




And on another note, according to a 2013 federal law, it's illegal to dispense Sterile Water for Injection without a prescription, unless you're on a drug treatment program, and then only in 2ml one time use vials.....

 

[narta]

We are talking about the water we use to administer peptides sq and we have to specify that the water will have to be for injection now?

What is this, Idiocracy: Juiced Edition?

 

[AnTabolic73]

If you haven't brewed cyp before, id say stay away from it .. it's not as nice as Enth.. but since the list doesn't have enth, I'd go with decoanate instead

It's all I use. 20%bb 2%ba gso and a little heat you'll have no issues brewing it

 

[Middus]

Sterile Water is not pyrogen free (unless it's specifically labeled as such). Sterile Water for Injection is sterile water that's been further processed to be pyrogen free.

No one's randomly going through the expense of making sterile water pyrogen free. Sterile water is cheaper to make than distilled water.

It's like saying "Water isn't bacteriostatic." and responding with "Not all water is bacteriostatic".

Just saying you should qualify it. Many store fronts on amazon usually realise that there is an obvious reason someone is seeking sterile water online so a lot of sterile water sold there is pyrogen free.

 

[Ghoul]

We are talking about the water we use to administer peptides sq and we have to specify that the water will have to be for injection now?

What is this, Idiocracy: Juiced Edition?

Considering this started with someone suggesting Sterile Water is ok to use with a multi dose vial. not BAC, so that's already a health risk, and Amazon will literally not sell you water labeled "for injection" without a prescription, don't you think it may be useful to point out the only type that should be injected is pyrogen free sterile water, and not one of the others they sell?

 

[Middus]

We are talking about the water we use to administer peptides sq and we have to specify that the water will have to be for injection now?

What is this, Idiocracy: Juiced Edition?

LoL.. Just "harm reduction" lol. I mean one can get away with using water for irrigation for sq.. Especially if following correct practice for SQ injections (i.e not more than 1ml in a spot). However some people give themselves IV injections. Using 'water for irrigation' for an IV administration is asking for trouble. I sometimes give myself IV injections, so I may be projecting my own personal concerns.

 

[synthesis30]

Considering this started with someone suggesting Sterile Water is ok to use with a multi dose vial. not BAC, so that's already a health risk, and Amazon will literally not sell you water labeled "for injection" without a prescription, don't you think it may be useful to point out the only type that should be injected is pyrogen free sterile water, and not one of the others they sell?

I appreciate your efforts in harm reduction, and your informative posts, but you can't fix stupid unfortunately. Some people are beyond saving / don't have the intelligence to understand your posts. If someone is injecting random sterile water on amazon then they have bigger problems and that's just the beginning of their unsafe practices.

 

[Ghoul]

LoL.. Just "harm reduction" lol. I mean one can get away with using water for irrigation for sq.. Especially if following correct practice for SQ injections (i.e not more than 1ml in a spot). However some people give themselves IV injections. Using 'water for irrigation' for an IV administration is asking for trouble. I sometimes give myself IV injections, so I may be projecting my own personal concerns.

The purpose of bacteriostatic water is to prevent bacterial growth. Considering protein is a primary food source, it's really not wise to use vial that's been around more than a day if it's not reconstituted with BAC. That hardly a bubble boy issue.

 

[Ghoul]

I appreciate your efforts in harm reduction, and your informative posts, but you can't fix stupid unfortunately. Some people are beyond saving / don't have the intelligence to understand your posts. If someone is injecting random sterile water on amazon then they have bigger problems and that's just the beginning of their unsafe practices.

Plenty have suggested distilled water is ok. And I'll bet you - a lot, if not most, UGL "Bac", including the obviously home made "reconstitution solution" shit on Amazon, is, at best, using distilled water, mixed up in whatever, and bottled in a garage.

Considering 99% of what you inject is the reconstitution solution. my mantra will always be pharma (or homemade using pharma WFI+BA) should be the only choice.

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

Hey Tracy @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals
My package to Canada using DHL just was returned to shipper ? This usually happens from my experience when there’s a mistake on the package. Any clue why ?

 

[Ateam2023]

Anyone having problems witb ordering from qsc on Whattsapp? Im not getting a response?

 

[Dirthand]

Anyone having problems witb ordering from qsc on Whattsapp? Im not getting a response?

Been over 24hrs for me..

 

[xrayphoton13]

Been over 24hrs for me..

I'm right at the 24 hour mark