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chumpsickel said:
Whatever. Not everyone pays for their own testing. What is the point of vendor testing. Also what is the point of sending it in myself. It would have been the same result but I would have been out $400.
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I think people should depending on what they buy, who they buy from, and how much.



Domestic sources who have a good history, Lot of tests, would be fine.

Exotic compounds or cheap Chinese oils purchased in bulk should be tested.


150 tirz kits and more than 3 are purchased.... Should be tested.

(If they give credit, this is a no brainer)


I just ordered some raw material which is supposed to be mast .. shit is not mast. I am going to test it... Source credited it back even before test results are posted.
 
TheLobster said:
I was the one who asked to send you 2 vials. Just in case, one might break during shipping, and the other could be used for testing. I’ve explained this to you 2-3 times already. If you still claim I didn’t, would you like me to share my emails?Maybe explaining it 2-3 times isn’t enough for you? Do you want me to share the proof in front of everyone?

If you were going to complain this much, why didn’t you do your own test? I ran the test just to shut you up. Additionally, I also had the large vials I personally tested. Even that wasn’t enough for you

Once again, I requested from SAMPEI 4 vacuum-sealed vials, 4 non-vacuum-sealed vials, and 2 non-vacuum-sealed vials kept at room temperature, and I even said I would pay for the test. Isn’t that enough for you? Are you sick or what? All you do is talk and write without actually saying anything. Your only goal is to sabotage me. I hope you find something else to focus on besides me. You have a very strange personality.

I’ve sold thousands of HGH boxes, and of course, there will always be people like you who are never happy and look for a problem in everything. I hope you get better soon

Sampei shared all photos. He will do test after 6 months.

After 6 months, there will be new results. I will make sure you remember this date. If I’m wrong, I will give away 500 kits for free to everyone. If you’re wrong, are you going to admit you were wrong and say, “I’m sorry, I was being unreasonable”?

How can you speak with such certainty as if you know everything? Is it really that easy for you to slander someone so ignorantly?

I’m really tired of a few people like you

Apologize to everyone
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I don't believe your reasoning for sending multiple vials. I think you are full of shit. What happens to the 2nd vial when they both show up undamaged? Why did you send two of your own vials and have both of them tested? I find it odd that you just happen to come up with some vials from the same batch that had no vacuum. You talked a good game when the no vacuum first came up but never followed through with testing like you said you would. I think you hoped things had just blown over and there would be no need for testing.

Why didn't you sell the no vacuum vials with a disclaimer after it originally came up?

Why did I get a product with no vacuum when I ordered in January? You stated in your thread that the GH in January would have vacuum. Liar.

So how do you explain the poor results mister my GH never has dimer? You think I stored it wrong? Maybe it was stored wrong by the shipper. Everyone is to blame but you I am sure.
 
chumpsickel said:
I don't believe your reasoning for sending multiple vials. I think you are full of shit. What happens to the 2nd vial when they both show up undamaged? Why did you send two of your own vials and have both of them tested? I find it odd that you just happen to come up with some vials from the same batch that had no vacuum. You talked a good game when the no vacuum first came up but never followed through with testing like you said you would. I think you hoped things had just blown over and there would be no need for testing.

Why didn't you sell the no vacuum vials with a disclaimer after it originally came up?

Why did I get a product with no vacuum when I ordered in January? You stated in your thread that the GH in January would have vacuum. Liar.

So how do you explain the poor results mister my GH never has dimer? You think I stored it wrong? Maybe it was stored wrong by the shipper. Everyone is to blame but you I am sure.
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Why would he pay to test two vials that are exactly alike? Sending two just in case one gets broken makes sense. Do you think he only sent one? Or do you think he instructed Jano to only test a particular one and ignore the other? Or do you think a second test was performed and the results were less than desirable? No pitchforks. I’m truly curious.
 
BamaCrazy said:
Why would he pay to test two vials that are exactly alike? Sending two just in case one gets broken makes sense. Do you think he only sent one? Or do you think he instructed Jano to only test a particular one and ignore the other? Or do you think a second test was performed and the results were less than desirable? No pitchforks. I’m truly curious.
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At this point I don't trust him. Why did he send two of his own vials, that he just happened to find, and have both of them tested? He could have just tested 1 of them. I would not put it past him to have had both of my vials tested and then cherry pick from there.
 
TheLobster said:
I was the one who asked to send you 2 vials. Just in case, one might break during shipping, and the other could be used for testing. I’ve explained this to you 2-3 times already. If you still claim I didn’t, would you like me to share my emails?Maybe explaining it 2-3 times isn’t enough for you? Do you want me to share the proof in front of everyone?

If you were going to complain this much, why didn’t you do your own test? I ran the test just to shut you up. Additionally, I also had the large vials I personally tested. Even that wasn’t enough for you

Once again, I requested from SAMPEI 4 vacuum-sealed vials, 4 non-vacuum-sealed vials, and 2 non-vacuum-sealed vials kept at room temperature, and I even said I would pay for the test. Isn’t that enough for you? Are you sick or what? All you do is talk and write without actually saying anything. Your only goal is to sabotage me. I hope you find something else to focus on besides me. You have a very strange personality.

I’ve sold thousands of HGH boxes, and of course, there will always be people like you who are never happy and look for a problem in everything. I hope you get better soon

Sampei shared all photos. He will do test after 6 months.

After 6 months, there will be new results. I will make sure you remember this date. If I’m wrong, I will give away 500 kits for free to everyone. If you’re wrong, are you going to admit you were wrong and say, “I’m sorry, I was being unreasonable”?

How can you speak with such certainty as if you know everything? Is it really that easy for you to slander someone so ignorantly?

I’m really tired of a few people like you

Apologize to everyone
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Shut your mouth. You become the low priced leader for a minute for one product, and suddenly you think you're Tracy, free to attack members calling out defects in your product quality.

You sell vials of peptides without vacuum, and when you were contacted by multiple members, rather than say "sorry, we'll work something out and prevent this in the future" you told members that it's "normal"; and to go fuck themselves because a lack of vacuum, always recognized as a sign of poor quality, is now meaningless.

You're actively trying to drag standards backwards, and while you aren't the first vendor to put out vials without vacuum, you're the first to go on a campaign defending it as being "normal", with no impact on quality,

You may enjoy the support of a small handful of shills who are backing your. efforts to gaslight the community about what constitutes a low quality, defective product, but since "No vacuum is normal" is your stated position, you can also enjoy the lost business from members who won't fall for your bullshit.

Your shills will rush to your defense, make excuses and ad hominem attacks on me and the customers who "dare" speak out, but there are hundreds of others who'll see this and quietly take their business elsewhere. Enjoy the lost business.

It'll be made crystal clear, regularly, until you stop lying, that if you buy from Lobster and the vials lack vacuum, that's the "normal" level of quality customers can expect from you.
 
chumpsickel said:
I don't believe your reasoning for sending multiple vials. I think you are full of shit. What happens to the 2nd vial when they both show up undamaged? Why did you send two of your own vials and have both of them tested? I find it odd that you just happen to come up with some vials from the same batch that had no vacuum. You talked a good game when the no vacuum first came up but never followed through with testing like you said you would. I think you hoped things had just blown over and there would be no need for testing.

Why didn't you sell the no vacuum vials with a disclaimer after it originally came up?

Why did I get a product with no vacuum when I ordered in January? You stated in your thread that the GH in January would have vacuum. Liar.

So how do you explain the poor results mister my GH never has dimer? You think I stored it wrong? Maybe it was stored wrong by the shipper. Everyone is to blame but you I am sure.
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Being the intellectually dishonest bunch they are, I see the shills are now defending the rapid degradation as "fine" and making irrelevant comparisons to pharma. Whatever the results were, even these, the worst ever from this vendor, they'll move the goalposts to defend it.

When GH is exposed to oxygen, damage takes the form of ONGOING INSTABILITY and rapid degradation, exactly as we saw in the testing.

The "dimer" in pharma is the result of excipients added to prevent degradation and aggregate formation to keep the product stable over its 1-2 year shelf life. Thats not the same as hgh becoming damaged by oxidation, rapidly degrading, and becoming prone to forming large aggregates.

Remember, Jano's testing only measures product quality AFTER .22um filtration. Large aggregates and the resulting loss of peptide aren't detected at all. The rapid formation of dimer and loss of purity in the test results are only the tip of the iceberg in contaminants present in this "normal" vial of HGH.
 
Ghoul said:
Being the intellectually dishonest bunch they are, I see the shills are now defending the rapid degradation as "fine" and making irrelevant comparisons to pharma. Whatever the results were, even these, the worst ever from this vendor, they'll move the goalposts to defend it.

When GH is exposed to oxygen, damage takes the form of ONGOING INSTABILITY and rapid degradation, exactly as we saw in the testing.

The "dimer" in pharma is the result of excipients added to prevent degradation and aggregate formation to keep the product stable over its 1-2 year shelf life. Thats not the same as hgh becoming damaged by oxidation, rapidly degrading, and becoming prone to forming large aggregates.

Remember, Jano's testing only measures product quality AFTER .22um filtration. Large aggregates and the resulting loss of peptide aren't detected at all. The rapid formation of dimer and loss of purity in the test results are only the tip of the iceberg in contaminants present in this "normal" vial of HGH.
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How can we be dishonest? We do not have data to say other wise?. The only data there is says its fine.

Where are the test results for this that you have done?

Where are any test results you have done jack ass, You are just spouted shit without any data to back you up.

Anyone who looks at your history can see all this inconsistency with your claims and accusation.

I swear to god, I just imagine you as a disabled fat troll that sits behind a computer all day.

DYEL?
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
How can we be dishonest? We do not have data to say other wise?. The only data there is says its fine.

Where are the test results for this that you have done?

Where are any test results you have done jack ass, You are just spouted shit without any data to back you up.

Anyone who looks at your history can see all this inconsistency with your claims and accusation.

I swear to god, I just imagine you as a disabled fat troll that sits behind a computer all day.

DYEL?
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Right on time.

Will you be passing any of the 50 kits you bought of this trash on to your customers?

Or did you work out a deal with Lobster for a refund? Obviously, commercial resellers are more important and should expect better treatment than the members here who only bought a couple of kits of HGH or GLPs without vacuum and got told they can go fuck themselves.

When your customers ask about the vials they noticed are lacking vacuum will you tell them it's "normal"?

How about the guy that buys 6 kits from you? Will you warn him that it's already rapidly dropped in quality in just a few weeks from its original test, and he should avoid buying several months worth because of that?

I suspect you won't be telling them anything besides "no vacuum is perfectly normal", with all the usual ethics of a drug dealer putting his financial interests ahead of all else.
 
Ghoul said:
Shut your mouth. You become the low priced leader for a minute for one product, and suddenly you think you're Tracy, free to attack members calling out defects in your product quality.

You sell vials of peptides without vacuum, and when you were contacted by multiple members, rather than say "sorry, we'll work something out and prevent this in the future" you told members that it's "normal"; and to go fuck themselves because a lack of vacuum, always recognized as a sign of poor quality, is now meaningless.

You're actively trying to drag standards backwards, and while you aren't the first vendor to put out vials without vacuum, you're the first to go on a campaign defending it as being "normal", with no impact on quality,

You may enjoy the support of a small handful of shills who are backing your. efforts to gaslight the community about what constitutes a low quality, defective product, but since "No vacuum is normal" is your stated position, you can also enjoy the lost business from members who won't fall for your bullshit.

Your shills will rush to your defense, make excuses and ad hominem attacks on me and the customers who "dare" speak out, but there are hundreds of others who'll see this and quietly take their business elsewhere. Enjoy the lost business.

It'll be made crystal clear, regularly, until you stop lying, that if you buy from Lobster and the vials lack vacuum, that's the "normal" level of quality customers can expect from you.
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You are losing respect and whatever credibility you had with each post. Nobody with half a brain is listening to you at this point. You make weak accusations about degradation or loss of potency when you have no evidence that this is the case. You accuse members who do not buy from the Lobster and have never purchased anything from this source of being shills. You try to rally the few (and getting fewer) newbies who actually listen to you and try to turn them against this vendor. That’s pretty pathetic. Then you insult members who don’t agree with you or agree with your methods which is really turning everyone against you. The forum members and sources. Readalot tried this with QSC and we just bought more and more of their products as a result. Quit while you have a shred of dignity left.
 
Perfect. Now people can see your stupidity and inconsistent accusations. LOOK AT THIS STUPID SHIT, THIS IS WHY THIS GUY IS USELESS WITHOUT HIS SEARCH ENGINE!

Ghoul said:
Right on time.

Will you be passing any of the 50 kits you bought of this trash on to your customers?

Or did you work out a deal with Lobster for a refund? Obviously, commercial resellers are more important and should expect better treatment than the members here who only bought a couple of kits of HGH or GLPs without vacuum and got told they can go fuck themselves.

When your customers ask about the vials they noticed are lacking vacuum will you tell them it's "normal"?

How about the guy that buys 6 kits from you? Will you warn him that it's already rapidly dropped in quality in just a few weeks from its original test, and he should avoid buying several months worth because of that?

I suspect you won't be telling them anything besides "no vacuum is perfectly normal", with all the usual ethics of a drug dealer putting his financial interests ahead of all else.
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You went on this long dumb fucking tangent, created this scenario and I never even bought HGH VIALS FROM TURKEY. MINE CAME FROM CHINA.


I have a vacuum in my vials.

For as much time as you spend on here, you really do not know what's going on.
 
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