Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[Ghoul]

I don't believe your reasoning for sending multiple vials. I think you are full of shit. What happens to the 2nd vial when they both show up undamaged? Why did you send two of your own vials and have both of them tested? I find it odd that you just happen to come up with some vials from the same batch that had no vacuum. You talked a good game when the no vacuum first came up but never followed through with testing like you said you would. I think you hoped things had just blown over and there would be no need for testing.

Why didn't you sell the no vacuum vials with a disclaimer after it originally came up?

Why did I get a product with no vacuum when I ordered in January? You stated in your thread that the GH in January would have vacuum. Liar.

So how do you explain the poor results mister my GH never has dimer? You think I stored it wrong? Maybe it was stored wrong by the shipper. Everyone is to blame but you I am sure.

Being the intellectually dishonest bunch they are, I see the shills are now defending the rapid degradation as "fine" and making irrelevant comparisons to pharma. Whatever the results were, even these, the worst ever from this vendor, they'll move the goalposts to defend it.

When GH is exposed to oxygen, damage takes the form of ONGOING INSTABILITY and rapid degradation, exactly as we saw in the testing.

The "dimer" in pharma is the result of excipients added to prevent degradation and aggregate formation to keep the product stable over its 1-2 year shelf life. Thats not the same as hgh becoming damaged by oxidation, rapidly degrading, and becoming prone to forming large aggregates.

Remember, Jano's testing only measures product quality AFTER .22um filtration. Large aggregates and the resulting loss of peptide aren't detected at all. The rapid formation of dimer and loss of purity in the test results are only the tip of the iceberg in contaminants present in this "normal" vial of HGH.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Being the intellectually dishonest bunch they are, I see the shills are now defending the rapid degradation as "fine" and making irrelevant comparisons to pharma. Whatever the results were, even these, the worst ever from this vendor, they'll move the goalposts to defend it.

When GH is exposed to oxygen, damage takes the form of ONGOING INSTABILITY and rapid degradation, exactly as we saw in the testing.

The "dimer" in pharma is the result of excipients added to prevent degradation and aggregate formation to keep the product stable over its 1-2 year shelf life. Thats not the same as hgh becoming damaged by oxidation, rapidly degrading, and becoming prone to forming large aggregates.

Remember, Jano's testing only measures product quality AFTER .22um filtration. Large aggregates and the resulting loss of peptide aren't detected at all. The rapid formation of dimer and loss of purity in the test results are only the tip of the iceberg in contaminants present in this "normal" vial of HGH.

How can we be dishonest? We do not have data to say other wise?. The only data there is says its fine.

Where are the test results for this that you have done?

Where are any test results you have done jack ass, You are just spouted shit without any data to back you up.

Anyone who looks at your history can see all this inconsistency with your claims and accusation.

I swear to god, I just imagine you as a disabled fat troll that sits behind a computer all day.

DYEL?

 

[Ghoul]

How can we be dishonest? We do not have data to say other wise?. The only data there is says its fine.

Where are the test results for this that you have done?

Where are any test results you have done jack ass, You are just spouted shit without any data to back you up.

Anyone who looks at your history can see all this inconsistency with your claims and accusation.

I swear to god, I just imagine you as a disabled fat troll that sits behind a computer all day.

DYEL?

Right on time.

Will you be passing any of the 50 kits you bought of this trash on to your customers?

Or did you work out a deal with Lobster for a refund? Obviously, commercial resellers are more important and should expect better treatment than the members here who only bought a couple of kits of HGH or GLPs without vacuum and got told they can go fuck themselves.

When your customers ask about the vials they noticed are lacking vacuum will you tell them it's "normal"?

How about the guy that buys 6 kits from you? Will you warn him that it's already rapidly dropped in quality in just a few weeks from its original test, and he should avoid buying several months worth because of that?

I suspect you won't be telling them anything besides "no vacuum is perfectly normal", with all the usual ethics of a drug dealer putting his financial interests ahead of all else.

 

[BamaCrazy]

Shut your mouth. You become the low priced leader for a minute for one product, and suddenly you think you're Tracy, free to attack members calling out defects in your product quality.

You sell vials of peptides without vacuum, and when you were contacted by multiple members, rather than say "sorry, we'll work something out and prevent this in the future" you told members that it's "normal"; and to go fuck themselves because a lack of vacuum, always recognized as a sign of poor quality, is now meaningless.

You're actively trying to drag standards backwards, and while you aren't the first vendor to put out vials without vacuum, you're the first to go on a campaign defending it as being "normal", with no impact on quality,

You may enjoy the support of a small handful of shills who are backing your. efforts to gaslight the community about what constitutes a low quality, defective product, but since "No vacuum is normal" is your stated position, you can also enjoy the lost business from members who won't fall for your bullshit.

Your shills will rush to your defense, make excuses and ad hominem attacks on me and the customers who "dare" speak out, but there are hundreds of others who'll see this and quietly take their business elsewhere. Enjoy the lost business.

It'll be made crystal clear, regularly, until you stop lying, that if you buy from Lobster and the vials lack vacuum, that's the "normal" level of quality customers can expect from you.

You are losing respect and whatever credibility you had with each post. Nobody with half a brain is listening to you at this point. You make weak accusations about degradation or loss of potency when you have no evidence that this is the case. You accuse members who do not buy from the Lobster and have never purchased anything from this source of being shills. You try to rally the few (and getting fewer) newbies who actually listen to you and try to turn them against this vendor. That’s pretty pathetic. Then you insult members who don’t agree with you or agree with your methods which is really turning everyone against you. The forum members and sources. Readalot tried this with QSC and we just bought more and more of their products as a result. Quit while you have a shred of dignity left.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Perfect. Now people can see your stupidity and inconsistent accusations. LOOK AT THIS STUPID SHIT, THIS IS WHY THIS GUY IS USELESS WITHOUT HIS SEARCH ENGINE!

Right on time.

Will you be passing any of the 50 kits you bought of this trash on to your customers?

Or did you work out a deal with Lobster for a refund? Obviously, commercial resellers are more important and should expect better treatment than the members here who only bought a couple of kits of HGH or GLPs without vacuum and got told they can go fuck themselves.

When your customers ask about the vials they noticed are lacking vacuum will you tell them it's "normal"?

How about the guy that buys 6 kits from you? Will you warn him that it's already rapidly dropped in quality in just a few weeks from its original test, and he should avoid buying several months worth because of that?

I suspect you won't be telling them anything besides "no vacuum is perfectly normal", with all the usual ethics of a drug dealer putting his financial interests ahead of all else.

You went on this long dumb fucking tangent, created this scenario and I never even bought HGH VIALS FROM TURKEY. MINE CAME FROM CHINA.


I have a vacuum in my vials.

For as much time as you spend on here, you really do not know what's going on.

 

[glpfun]

 

[Jpxxx]

When you guys gonna let this thread die? Asking for a friend

 

[glpfun]

When you guys gonna let this thread die? Asking for a friend

 

[BamaCrazy]

When you guys gonna let this thread die? Asking for a friend

Tell your friend to login and help these fools get to 4k pages. They believe something magical is going to happen and I want to be here when nothing at all happens. lol

 

[bananafeet]

4k page special? When do we give up hope pour le retour ?

 

[glpfun]

We gotta keep the thread warm so when Tracy comes back his feet don’t get cold in the water

 

[AlexDavis43]

Still working but decided to check in and see how the meltdown was going. Swimmingly, I see.

 

[rolexbelaphonte]

Ya it’s gotten weird in here. If anyone needs any AIs im happy to send some for free. It’s getting real. Estrogeny in here

 

[DECLAN]

That's generally how it works. To increase demand for the extra amount being produced, you have lower prices or it sits on the shelf, unsold.

Hopefully you’re right, because right now the discrepancy between US prices and other countries is substantial.

 

[Mma67]

I don’t think Tracy is coming back. They need to restructure and move operations out of China if they want to operate without scrutiny. Maaaaybe they’ll move operations to some southeast Asian country, but there will be some major hurdles before that happens.

 

[magnuss88]

To my surprise I received my products from qsc but how do I know which peptide is which?
I ordered bpc/tb, reta, epitalon and thymosin alpha 1. Obviously I’m missing one but I’m not stressing that just need to know what’s what.

Out of curiosity when did you order?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Still working but decided to check in and see how the meltdown was going. Swimmingly, I see.

I would be melting down too if I didn't know WTF is going on.

 

[blessed]

I would be melting down too if I didn't know WTF is going on.

Why? If you can’t do anything, you have nothing to worry about either they come back or they don’t either you get what you paid for or you don’t. Nothing to worry about imo

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Why? If you can’t do anything, you have nothing to worry about either they come back or they don’t either you get what you paid for or you don’t. Nothing to worry about imo

Its affecting my sleep at night. The end is near. I am on my last vial of test.

Can you help me find a new replacement source?

 

[Dirthand]

Why? If you can’t do anything, you have nothing to worry about either they come back or they don’t either you get what you paid for or you don’t. Nothing to worry about imo

Read the room a lil more..