They've let the fent get exported by pharma companies, though, since not for domestic consumption. Trump claimed China would crack down on it and apply the death penalty, but China replied yesterday and said it's the US' problem and not theirs.
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dinfar1337
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i dont know where the idea came any of the precursors used in opioids/fentanyl is the same as in primo/etc but that isnt true at all.
here is some articles i linked some time ago in another post that shines a little light on what is actually going on.
The game is dead, its over.
sadly the chemicals themselves have been extremely restricted to acquire now in china. went from unlicensed bulk purchase to licensed goverment controlled.
and whatever ugl promises you otherwise only have malicious intents.
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Obese2Greekgod
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man.... i discovered them, got to buy 1 single kit then they get taken down, can anyone list any other alternatives that are cheap af also?
dick_starbuck
Member
Have you considered click on... any of the other vendors in the forum?
Everyone moved onto SSA, SRY, and HYB.
It won´t be as it was before, thats for sure.
dinfar1337
New Member
not at the same prices.
turkey/iran/india/russia have the capabilities of producing the precursors and wide scale manufacturing them while the laws are loose there around it. but seems like everybody has relied on china and dont have a walter white in these countries that want to take the market for himself
Ghoul
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They've been saying that for years.
It's obvious they started stepping away from the drug precursor business within weeks after the election last year.
We're living it ffs. China didn't suddenly decide AAS were immoral. They just got swept up in the overall crackdown on illegal drug chemicals.
CharlesV
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fine. bet. now crank up production and start taking our money again dammit.
Thats one of the benefits of being an old timer. You learn to always have a personal stash to last you through the tough times (2-5 yrs minimum).
I'm sure there are many newbies and younger guys that have learned this the hard way. I believe we are looking at closer to 5 years this go around. We're seeing the clock rewind to the days of the 90s. Prices will triple and fake shit will be like it was in the old days.
Heck Back then I thought I did 4-5 cycles. In all actuality it was more like one real cycle. No wonder I never got any bigger then 224lbs on that one real cycle. Looking back, I think that was a good thing because I was able to maintain 220 naturally but at 15% bf. The placebo effect was probably the healthiest thing for me. Fake crap forced me to be off even longer then I thought. This helped me reinforce my base.
After a 15 year long break (not even doing trt) I got back into gear. The shit was real and I climbed to 257 lbs within a year. If I did this in my 20s I probably would have been tempted to do things that I'd be regretting today in my 50s.
I'm sure there are many newbies and younger guys that have learned this the hard way. I believe we are looking at closer to 5 years this go around. We're seeing the clock rewind to the days of the 90s. Prices will triple and fake shit will be like it was in the old days.
Heck Back then I thought I did 4-5 cycles. In all actuality it was more like one real cycle. No wonder I never got any bigger then 224lbs on that one real cycle. Looking back, I think that was a good thing because I was able to maintain 220 naturally but at 15% bf. The placebo effect was probably the healthiest thing for me. Fake crap forced me to be off even longer then I thought. This helped me reinforce my base.
After a 15 year long break (not even doing trt) I got back into gear. The shit was real and I climbed to 257 lbs within a year. If I did this in my 20s I probably would have been tempted to do things that I'd be regretting today in my 50s.
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Spaceman Spiff
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I shop at costco, I dont shop at 7-11.
So many of these kids are crying for gear now because they wanted to buy 1-2 vials of test at a time. lol
Well on a good note, trt clinics are a normal thing now. We didn't have this option back in the 90s... at least not at the level it's available today.
Nows a great time for everyone to reinforce their base and figure out what their body's own natural maximum potential is.
But, supply and demand always plays a roll in availability and price. I foresee trt clinics increasing prices and taking advantage of the current situation.
Spaceman Spiff
Subscriber
they most definitely are. I have a cop hitting me up asking me to brew some test C for him. He said the clinics are too expensive.
He lets me bang his wife so... you know...
Trade for a trade
CharlesV
Member
for sure. i’ve managed stock up in a short amount of time…not 5 years worth, but enough to keep me from panic buying for a year or two. but with all this uncertainty, i’d love to have a fat sack of at least Test to keep in a dark cool place.
as long as it’s qualify and available, i really don’t mind if prices jump. even today’s domestic prices are so good it’s laughable. i spend far more on my PM supplement stack each month than i do my cycle.
CharlesV
Member
there is a lot to unpack there.
Spaceman Spiff
Subscriber
Yea, into his wifethere is a lot to unpack there.
RaddishPork
Member
I was blessed to have disposable income at the same time I was in my "research" phase, right when the gear was available through a single email for dirt cheap. Once I discovered gear was sold in kits internationally for the same price as 2 domestic vials, I pretty much got at least one kit of everything I saw.
I thought everyone was being a drama queen when they said it was coming to an end. Just seeing the war on drugs from American soil fail so miserably, I didn't realize there's more to this game than being a typical dope dealer.
The one place I did get burned is homebrewing. I was JUST starting to do the research and look into it when all the purity tests started coming back low and shipments were getting seized. I'm going to take that as my sign to not get greedy and just keep it chill for a while. Not like I "need" to brew anyways.
RIP to the spirit of the guys who just started cycling though. Now they've got shut down test levels and gear prices are doubled. That's gotta burn lol
Started cycling in august, crash came in october, haven’t gotten to try any compounds other than test, eq, “anavar” and dbol. I was dumb enough to be buying from GA at the time instead of QSC. want some damn mast
xrayphoton13
Member
Nothing wrong with GA back then. I have both. Why did you quote anavar? Mine from GA works great
Same here
got anavar from WWB recently, never ran it until recently and since raws are shit i have no idea if its anavar, its the stromusc shit
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