Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[Sampei]

For me, the primo 200 always leaves a bit of lump. Nothing crazy, but not as smooth as EQ, mast, etc. DHB I haven't tried but yeah definitely gonna give bad PIP as far as I understand.

For me it depends and it's really random and depends on the site. Just did 2ml primo 200 left glute yesterday evening and right now I can't feel a thing. Same if I inject into the VG. Zero.

PIP is sometime very subjective, can vary from person to person. I have refiltered the oil tho. Maybe it would have not changed the outcome but I still did.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

For me it depends and it's really random and depends on the site. Just did 2ml primo 200 left glute yesterday evening and right now I can't feel a thing. Same if I inject into the VG. Zero.

PIP is sometime very subjective, can vary from person to person. I have refiltered the oil tho. Maybe it would have not changed the outcome but I still did.

This too, lol. Super subjective and individual. I didn’t refilter. Maybe that is my issue!

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

I plan to refilter, and in the process, to make my own Primo 150mg/ml, by combining in equal parts my Primo 100mg/ml and 200mg/ml vials.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

We have adjusted our shipping costs and it starts from today :

View attachment 301546


UPDATED PRICE LIST: PrivateBin

I don't think there is a hyperlink to the private bin here

 

[NorthMich]

On the left is a 12iu vial. On the right is a 36iu vial from QSC.

Both test “pure,” so how can this be?

 

[Clyde1818]

I might be dumb but where can I get a price list ? lmao

 

[mochul]

View attachment 301578

On the left is a 12iu vial. On the right is a 36iu vial from QSC.

Both test “pure,” so how can this be?

What is wrong with the 36iu vial?!

 

[Ghoul]

This too, lol. Super subjective and individual. I didn’t refilter. Maybe that is my issue!

While I'm hesitant to give "feels" assessments of anything, especially broad generalizations, in general, AAS oil or peptide, I've found a decrease in PIP post filtration.

In some instances, the difference was so dramatic, I had to check the tech literature to reassure myself I wasn't somehow removing active ingredient by using the wrong type of filter (not a concern with oils, only peptides).

 

[Intrepid]

View attachment 301578

On the left is a 12iu vial. On the right is a 36iu vial from QSC.

Both test “pure,” so how can this be?

Filler explains the volume difference. It's not that there's less gh in one, one just has more filler

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

On the left is a 12iu vial. On the right is a 36iu vial from QSC.

Both test “pure,” so how can this be?

The white stuff you see is mostly Mannitol, a filler/excipient. The same amount of Mannitol is used for all GH concentrations. The GH is only between 4 and 12mg for those stated IU amounts, which is a tiny bit of powder. Hence, the pucks basically look identical.

See below for how much 1mg of powder looks like:

 

[Cereal masturbator]

I might be dumb but where can I get a price list ? lmao

Read the post above you, that’ll make you feel better

 

[Trenbolonetax]

While I'm hesitant to give "feels" assessments of anything, especially broad generalizations, in general, AAS oil or peptide, I've found a decrease in PIP post filtration.

In some instances, the difference was so dramatic, I had to check the tech literature to reassure myself I wasn't somehow removing active ingredient by using the wrong type of filter (not a concern with oils, only peptides).

Gosh darn it. I may just be convinced. Ghoul, can you please link me to your thread or comment explaining what to acquire to do this? Would a vial spike suffice or should I just go for a syringe filter?

Sorry I’m being lazy and asking.

 

[NorthMich]

The white stuff you see is mostly Mannitol, a filler/excipient. The same amount of Mannitol is used for all GH concentrations. The GH is only between 4 and 12mg for those stated IU amounts, which is a tiny bit of powder. Hence, the pucks basically look identical.

See below for how much 1mg of powder looks like:
View attachment 301580

Thanks for that. I had no idea there was ever any filler.

 

[thecmorgan]

We have adjusted our shipping costs and it starts from today :

View attachment 301546


UPDATED PRICE LIST: PrivateBin

Is there an updated price list? The link doesn't work. @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals

 

[Ghoul]

View attachment 301578

On the left is a 12iu vial. On the right is a 36iu vial from QSC.

Both test “pure,” so how can this be?

What is wrong with the 36iu vial?!

He's concerned it's the same volume.

Filler explains the volume difference. It's not that there's less gh in one, one just has more filler

We should probobly stop referring to excipients as "filler", which implies something that's inert. These ingredients are an important part of the drug's "recipe", and perform a number of important functions. Antioxodants, anti-aggregation, PH adjusters, etc. Some can cause side effects in certain individuals.

If there are significant differences between pharma and UGL, this could be where a lot of that difference lies.

While we have bigger fish to fry, knowing the excipient "recipe" being used should be standard. Would you use an AAS with mystery ingredients?. We know what the pharma companies are using. They vary from company to company, but all excipient ingredients are listed in the box.

These things are being injected into our bodies, so I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to be disclosed. I believe Tracy has done this once or twice on request.

 

[MrSaizen]

Is Tracy's email still the same?

 

[Intrepid]

That 5 amino 1q deal is tempting... dang you Tracy

 

[Sampei]

Gosh darn it. I may just be convinced. Ghoul, can you please link me to your thread or comment explaining what to acquire to do this? Would a vial spike suffice or should I just go for a syringe filter?

Sorry I’m being lazy and asking.

Pm me I'll give you the links

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

QSC basically said tough luck bro lol so guess we’re going with plan B now .5ml everything eod next cycle

Better send me an email to tracy@sigmachemical.com.cn

my assistants can't help you that much.

I (Tracy in person) don't answer the sigma/whatsapp emails anymore, only customer service issues via tracy@sigmachemical.com.cn

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

@Qingdao Sigma Chemicals please post update when Test E back in stock international. Thanks

I think it's already in stock, 250 kits were restocked after the promo, unless it sold out in the past days.