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The one thing I see glossed over time and time again in discussions about this class of drugs is that they were NOT designed to reduce appetite. Yet appetite reduction is seemingly the only topic on the table. Appetite reduction is a side effect of this class of drugs which were designed to reduce blood glucose/ A1C. Incretin mimetics work by switching on insulin and suppressing glucagon to control blood glucose. Ostensibly quite simple. Some people don't even experience a reduction in hunger. They simply don't "suffer" that particular side effect of these drugs.

It pisses me off to no end when people say, "______ stopped working for me!" Fill in the blank with Tirz, sema, reta, whatever. No, unless you're measuring your blood glucose on a regular basis and noted an increase, the drug is absolutely still working. Not to mention 80% of those people aren't even on the full recommended dose.

So, to answer your question, it depends on what the desired results are. There exists a multitude of reasons for which one would use these drugs. The original question was in reference to benefits outside of appetite reduction. In my opinion, the larger the dose the more benefits you will experience. But as with, say, testosterone, that dose will vary per individual.

I've used nearly 5mg/ week of sema and currently use 22mg/ week of tirz. I don't experience the same negative effects that some people report with any dose of either of these drugs. I can eat as much or as little as I want and I poop just fine. I'll probably step up to 25mg soon. I'm personally pushing to see what magic can happen for me outside of appetite control. But I won't go into that here.

The pharmaceutical companies have created dosing protocols that work for a majority of people. Use those as a guide but not a limit.

As with any other performance enhancing drug, one should be monitoring blood work and vitals and noting how they feel with each escalation in dose.
That’s a nice write up but I’m still not understanding your reason behind essentially taking more for no reason. If BG/A1c is good and you’re not experiencing adverse sides, why take more?

Also the effects on BG/A1c is hardly glossed over. It’s a major focus on most studies done on these compounds. You are just in a bodybuilding/steroid forum, so not sure what you’re expecting/why you’re surprised as far as people’s application of it.
 
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Haha no there is no complaining. I was in fact an early supporter of QSC when they first came on the scene (different username). Never had a pack fail yet…going on 4 years.

Wasn't referring to you specifically, but the sudden flurry of weird, and some inexplicable complaints.

Customs: "What???! Steroids! Oh hang on. it's Heptius. Wrap that up and send it on its way. "
 
Received my 10/21 oils promo tonight. There were several delays with shipment due to 2 of the 3 oils being out of stock. But once that was resolved I received tracking on 11/7. 8 days International is not bad at all. It’s late here so I’ll open the box tomorrow and try and figure out which kit is which. lol
 
Wasn't referring to you specifically, but the sudden flurry of weird, and some inexplicable complaints.

Customs: "What???! Steroids! Oh hang on. it's Heptius. Wrap that up and send it on its way. "
I ordered tirz/sema and mots-c, and received unmarked raws, hepius anavar and 2 unlabeled kits.

I know your fat lazy ass pokes this glp shit nonstop so would you make ‘weird’ complaints if you got this in the mail after sending $485?

I’m just trying to work with Tracy to get what I ordered and get this out of my house and where it should have gone if it was a qsc pack.
 
And I'll post it here as well @Ghoul even though I've put in plenty of pointless work here too.


There's the talk and then there's the actions shown every day on this thread. This thread should have been deserted long ago. Sycophantic BULLSHIT. Has a ring of truth to it.

Some "nutjob" on here with a crazy idea...
Contrary to the prevailing sentiment in a few source threads, this forum does NOT exist so members can bow down, kiss the ring, and promote/defend the sources (from "a business owners (sic) perspective") against customer criticisms of their products/services.

We could do better with more members "badgering" sources/UGLs to remain accountable with things like increased lab testing.

And fewer members posting their obsequious, sycophantic bullshit.
 
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"You do know that the whole point of the Steroid Underground subforum is to hold sources accountable, don't you?

That means asking/encouraging/pressuring/badgering/demanding that UGLs are fully accountable for their products and services.

This is done with harm reduction in mind because consumers, even those using black market androgens, deserve to know exactly what they are injecting into their body.

The increasing amount of analytical lab testing is one of the biggest achievements in the AAS harm reduction space. It's still not enough. UGLs can do better.

Expecting and demanding that UGLs do more testing should be the default mode for members here.

Contrary to the prevailing sentiment in a few source threads, this forum does NOT exist so members can bow down, kiss the ring, and promote/defend the sources (from "a business owners (sic) perspective") against customer criticisms of their products/services.

We could do better with more members "badgering" sources/UGLs to remain accountable with things like increased lab testing.

And fewer members posting their obsequious, sycophantic bullshit."


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