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No one can say for sure. However:

Unreconstituted, kept out of light, both will degrade slowly at room temp.

Reconstituted both will degrade much more quickly at room temp.

If I had to travel and take them unreconstituted for a week or two, I wouldn't lose much sleep,

Reconstituted, at room temp, I wouldn't want to use either after a couple of days, and even then, use a .2um pes syringe filter before injecting.
Thank you, I should have mentioned I meant unreconstituted. I actually thought QSC would store them at room temp since they have so much in stock? So 3 months unreconstituted in room temp is probably a bad idea? Does BPC/Tb500 last longer than hgh unreconstituted at room temp?
 
Thank you, I should have mentioned I meant unreconstituted. I actually thought QSC would store them at room temp since they have so much in stock? So 3 months unreconstituted in room temp is probably a bad idea? Does BPC/Tb500 last longer than hgh unreconstituted at room temp?

Peptide is a category as broad as "food". Room temp degradation will differ radically not only from peptide to peptide, but batch to batch.

How long will an apple last at room temp vs a fish? Both will last longer in the cold and dark.

As far as how QSC stores their peptides, I'd like to imagine at the closest to 0 degradation temp of -80c, but I doubt it. Often Jano tests of products shipped to customers show at least a few points of degradation, though how much is from storage and how much is unavoidable shipping temps is hard to say.

I advise buying peptides in the winter(to minimize degradation), and AAS oils in the summer (to avoid crashing).
 
Peptide is a category as broad as "food". Room temp degradation will differ radically not only from peptide to peptide, but batch to batch.

How long will an apple last at room temp vs a fish? Both will last longer in the cold and dark.

As far as how QSC stores their peptides, I'd like to imagine at the closest to 0 degradation temp of -80c, but I doubt it. Often Jano tests of products shipped to customers show at least a few points of degradation, though how much is from storage and how much is unavoidable shipping temps is hard to say.

I advise buying peptides in the winter(to minimize degradation), and AAS oils in the summer (to avoid crashing).
Thank you, I see there are no clear answer on this other than refrigerate is the best option for sure.
 
Yep, it's all down to sterilization using radiation after they're in their final container, preventing bacteria "eating" the protein, and a careful choice of excipients that control degradation by preventing oxidation, formation of aggregates, and most importantly, controlling PH. A small difference from the correct PH can speed up degradation of peptides by 10x.

Using the correct reconstitution ratio is
another big factor. Too concentrated, something many people do unwittingly thinking it doesn't matter speeds up the formation of contaminants that both weaken the potency of the peptide, and cause other problems by triggering the immune system.

Done correctly, for instance, pharma Semaglutide and Tirz, reconstituted in pens, lasts for 2 years inside the fridge without significant degradation, and a month at room temp.

Here's the formula for Serostim:


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vs Norditropin, which comes reconstituted requiring more protection:

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Here are the consequences of contamination, primarily degradation after manufacture, of various pharma HGH formulations. The antibodies result in an increasing loss of effectiveness of the GH over time, because your immune system develops the ability to clear it from your system.

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Filtration, especially immediately prior to injection can reduce antibody inducing contaminants significantly, lessening side effects and the potential of the peptide losing efficacy over time.
It's funny, I never thought that sterilization using gamma radiation was so important in this case. I didn't even think about it. Thank you. I'll know.
 
It's funny, I never thought that sterilization using gamma radiation was so important in this case. I didn't even think about it. Thank you. I'll know.

It's one of the "details" attended to by pharma, and just another machine in the assembly line that doesn't add much cost to the process. Obviously unattainable to UGL. Even the selection of container materials plays a measurable role in degradation.

However, the biggies are really PH and reconstitution ratio, both factors within UGL and our control, but largely ignored.
 
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Peptide is a category as broad as "food". Room temp degradation will differ radically not only from peptide to peptide, but batch to batch.

How long will an apple last at room temp vs a fish? Both will last longer in the cold and dark.

As far as how QSC stores their peptides, I'd like to imagine at the closest to 0 degradation temp of -80c, but I doubt it. Often Jano tests of products shipped to customers show at least a few points of degradation, though how much is from storage and how much is unavoidable shipping temps is hard to say.

I advise buying peptides in the winter(to minimize degradation), and AAS oils in the summer (to avoid crashing).
Pretty sure he said on a shelve in a warehouse once. Room temperature. I'm 98% sure I read that months ago.
 
It's very frustrating. Canada is turning into a third world country fast
I don't blame the workets one bit.
I hope they get a good raise and what they deserve.
And I'm guessing you have never been to a third world country.

You def wouldn't be buying gear and chatting about it.

And I don't blame qsc either.
Just wanted to work out a hold, exact charge, whatever the case.
 
@Qingdao Sigma Chemicals My 30 mg pre-order of Anavar which turned into 80 mg pre-order of Anavar has finally landed. Tracy you are a man of your word. Thanks for not trying to charge me the difference in price and causing me to blow a gasket.

I know you handle the customer service and all you usually hear is screw ups but I love your face. Well, at least the one in your PFP.
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@Qingdao Sigma Chemicals My 30 mg pre-order of Anavar which turned into 80 mg pre-order of Anavar has finally landed. Tracy you are a man of your word. Thanks for not trying to charge me the difference in price and causing me to blow a gasket.

I know you handle the customer service and all you usually hear is screw ups but I love your face. Well, at least the one in your PFP.
The Sandlot Kiss GIF by 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment
What's your lipids look like on 80 mg/day OX after a few weeks?
 
As long as you’re gettin ripped, who cares? Am I right?
Well i am running 25 mg/day of stanozolol right now and about to pull lipids. I'd be a hypocrite to disagree with you though haha, if you've already dialed every thing else in.

When I did pull lipids after 4 weeks on 50 mg/day of oxandrolone it did certainly give me pause.
 
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