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All I know is QSC is a solid source. Shit happens and I know it's frustrating but we just gotta do our best to remain in contact with them and try to find the fastest and best solution. Shit is annoying but that's how it goes. I know for me I need answers ASAP but that's never case via email. Tracy and QSC are always gonna be good to go.
Riding QSC cock much?
 
Question, has anyone had gyno sides from the GH here? I’ve been running GH from a different source for years but can’t come close to the price here. Wondering if it’s common with these kits or what’s up lol?

Also why am I still a “ new member “ wtf I’ve been a member for years..
Androgens inhibit gyno. Estrogens, GH, IGF-1 , Prolactin and progesterone all cause gyno growth. GH itself can cause gyno and it also increases IGF and might also increase prolactin so there you go.

Not very common with GH but may happen.
 
Have you checked both tracking numbers? There’s 2 numbers associated with each number
no tracking, as in 2 weeks after payment still haven't been given a tracking number.

I hit the lottery with the new staff. I imagine they didn't have a merry christmas or a happy new year.

Just a test run to see how it goes, what carrier it lands with. The following one will be a real order..
 
no tracking, as in 2 weeks after payment still haven't been given a tracking number.

I hit the lottery with the new staff. I imagine they didn't have a merry christmas or a happy new year.

Just a test run to see how it goes, what carrier it lands with. The following one will be a real order..
Have you asked for tracking? I’ve gotten plenty of orders without receiving tracking.
 
Two of my 5 packs are getting delivered this week but those two were never in customs. Three are still stuck possible reship.
And I just got tracking for my Christmas order.
 
Question, has anyone had gyno sides from the GH here? I’ve been running GH from a different source for years but can’t come close to the price here. Wondering if it’s common with these kits or what’s up lol?

Also why am I still a “ new member “ wtf I’ve been a member for years..


TLDR: QSC GH is working more effectively than the other brand:

(likely due to higher purity, different impurity profile, freshness so less degradation, fewer aggregates, etc all triggering less of an immune response)


One of QSCs big advantages in peptides is simply their high volume of sales, which means faster stock turnover, and fresher product. Better to buy fish from a busy shop, than a quiet, dusty place with few customers.
 
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TLDR: QSC GH is working more effectively than the other brand

Not sure why, but something about it caused me to get gyno / a flair up. A QSC 24iu kit to be exact.

Not sure why, but something about it caused me to get gyno / a flair up. A QSC 24iu kit to be exact.

Weirdest thing is I have used Qsc HGH for two years, being 99% of the hgh I’ve used and never had an issue. But something about this one kit?

My read was his issue seemed to be batch specific from scanning the thread.
 
Then....

I started gh again 3 days ago and have no symptoms.. Qsc 36iu kit. Nips are fine, not sore, glands, not inflamed. I did take another 6 mg aromasin in yesterday.

Oddly I am also seemingly fuller with this kit also - same dosing, no other changes. Been 3 days without the ralox To assess and no flair up, but I’ll prob take a small dose for the next week or so to be sure.
 
My read was his issue seemed to be batch specific from scanning the thread.

Since gyno is closely associated with higher levels of GH, when using xx mg of two brands/batches, and one is inducing gyno but the other isn't, that's pretty strong evidence one is effectively delivering more GH.

Overdosing is never more than ~20% so that's unlikely the cause of dramatic gyno.

Immunogenicity against GH develops in a pretty high proportion of users, it's just not well documented because clinically it rarely rises to "significant" level. Significant being defined as very slow of no growth in children, or a similar lack of response in IGF when treating adults. Some lesser amount of effectiveness loss is likely quite common. (see inhibition in the chart above)

So while gyno might be caused by some unique mechanism(some odd impurity for instance), I think this is one of those "if you hear galloping think 'horse' not 'unicorn' " situations.

For those using GH long term, a GH antibody test every 6 months or so is probably a good idea. The added complexity for UGL vs pharma however is batch to batch variance. So unfortunately a UGL brand that works well, with low immunogenicity, may completely change on the next batch if the UGL changes something, while pharma is going to be extremely consistent.

If I was using a UGL GH and had no antibodies develop while on it, I'd buy a long term supply and store it in a cryofreezer.
 
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