Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[The Answ3r]

Hello everyone,

I’d like to provide an update. Approximately 70% of our issues have been resolved, but we still have around 30% left to sort out before we can resume Op. The situation has been far more complicated to resolve than anticipated, and it’s taking much longer than expected. Unfortunately, I can’t provide an exact timeline for when we’ll be back, but I can assure you that we will return soon, despite the significant losses, mental stress, and all the dog shit we've been dealing with during this period. Contrary to what some might imagining us sipping piña coladas on Caribbean black titties, this has been an incredibly difficult ordeal. I sincerely hope no one else has to go through what we’ve endured and are still working to resolve.

The AAS and peptides biz is now heavily regulated and highly risky. Despite all the OPSEC we implemented, our operations were impacted during the crackdown, given the scale of our trading company, we ended up in the same range as production factories. At the end of the day, we’re not operating in the shadows, we’re a legally registered company with offices and warehouses.... so not out of the reach.

Once we’re back, we will make things right for every pending order and every reshipment that’s needed. I’ve always been a man/women of my word, and while financial gain hasn’t been my primary motivation, 2024 has turned into a non-profit year due to these events—despite the hard work we’ve put in throughout the year.

For OPSEC reasons, I can't log in except on very few occasional basis, so sorry about that, but I can't answer any comment after my post until we're back.

 

[strongfam213]

QSC was the worst source this board has ever seen. During their first year here they didn’t test products, openly scammed a customer, threatened to dox another, etc, etc, etc . If you had an issue and you went public with it there was a no soup for you policy and you were shit out of luck. They turned it around recently with testing but as you say, it was because it equated to more dollars.

Their cheap prices and apparently being booted from Reddit, which brought that crowd here totally changed the dynamics of Meso. There used to be a brotherhood amongst us. We worked tirelessly vetting and holding sources accountable and few sources actually made the cut. Believe there has only been 2 sources that had a successful run and retired. (Although I hear one didn’t quite retire and got busted.) This place use to not be a source board and was geared towards the members and their fitness journeys. I would love to see a united Meso again. I don’t see it happening with the current group. This place was always a bodybuilding and powerlifting focused forum. Now most are here for weight loss and without a glp-1 they probably wouldn’t even attempt their weight loss journey. Far cry from the work ethic members here once had.

You guys are hitting the nail with being buddies with these sources. It’s sickening and I saw a member actually calling a source daddy this week. Purchase, write a review, do some testing and move on. Calling a source daddy doesn’t make them love you. Truly pathetic and this place used be full of Alphas.

I don't post much here but Ive been in the lifting/body building forum works for 25 years now. I agree with what you said in principle, but note that this will never go back mostly because the dynamics of learning have changed. 20 years ago, you talked with people about what worked for them, you learned incrementally on forums, etc. Now, YouTube is full of people teaching actual good content. Every commerical gym has gear heads and 10x the people who know what they are doing, so we all have more friends offline. As such, the need for forums have dropped considerably.

Now, I fully agree that the forum should be a brotherhood to vet sources, but holy crap it's terrible to read these now compared to years past. Mostly people ranting, bad jokes, and fighting.

 

[Bumpygooch]

There's a member here that will get a sensation in his bumhole when Tracy is close.

I think his bumhole may have actually been correct

 

[glpfun]

 

[annih]

Anyone else here got the 50mg Tirz from QSC? I'm finding the effects are significantly weaker than say Mounjaro, anyone else finding this?

 

[Swolemates365]

Anyone else here got the 50mg Tirz from QSC? I'm finding the effects are significantly weaker than say Mounjaro, anyone else finding this?

No because it’s stuck In customs detention since Dec!!

 

[Ghoul]

Anyone else here got the 50mg Tirz from QSC? I'm finding the effects are significantly weaker than say Mounjaro, anyone else finding this?

That's been my experience with UGL Tirz, and all UGL GLPs generally.

To maximize effectiveness:

1) Ensure the volume of each dose is at least .5ml

2) Use pharma grade BAC, ie, Hospira/Pfizer

3) Filter

 

[keengkong]

I can say there is a person on Tik Tok that looks exactly like Tracy profile pic. And I really believe it’s a random oic of an hot Asian.

That Chinese actress is using Tracy’s profile photo.

 

[bananafeet]

Can't wait for Tracy's return. Currently on an all QSC stack.

125 test E
100 Decca
1500iu HCG
1.5mg kisspeptin

Feeling absolutely amazing. Did a CRP test after using a boatload of primobolan enanthate from Tracy and it was low.

Tracy's tren a potent as heck. Until my wife made me bin it lol

 

[egruberman]

Truly pathetic and this place used be full of Alphas.

If by "alphas" you mean full of idiot fucking primates confused about the nature of the world like yourself then sure.

I had a lengthier retort, but I can't manage to articulate it. My cognitive abilities are diminished having read your diatribe.

 

[keengkong]

That Chinese actress is using Tracy’s profile photo.

The actress using Tracy’s profile photo is Zheng Xin Yu.

 

[Ghoul]

If by "alphas" you mean full of idiot fucking primates confused about the nature of the world like yourself then sure.

 

[annih]

That's been my experience with UGL Tirz, and all UGL GLPs generally.

To maximize effectiveness:

1) Ensure the volume of each dose is at least .5ml

2) Use pharma grade BAC, ie, Hospira/Pfizer

3) Filter

Interesting. When you say .5ml. I’d have to either take a much stronger dose or reconstitute with a lot more bac water which won’t fit in the vials, so will need transferring.

Any reason (except maybe being sensible) for filtering?

 

[Canuck83]

Can't wait for Tracy's return. Currently on an all QSC stack.

125 test E
100 Decca
1500iu HCG
1.5mg kisspeptin

Feeling absolutely amazing. Did a CRP test after using a boatload of primobolan enanthate from Tracy and it was low.

Tracy's tren a potent as heck. Until my wife made me bin it lol

What do you notice from adding kisspeptin. Been reading up on it seems promising

 

[IronJohnDoe]

I would disclose my proof after I go through a verification process with them, I will not be disclosing my identity for obvious reasons and I will keep my methods private.

I would share my findings and my reasons to believe it is or isn't who they say they are and it's up to the community at that point to make their own decision but it maybe helpful to some if not all.

Oddly enough I've had to do things like this in the past. And I planned on doing this anyways to make sure it is who they say they are or received a green light from others in this community.

So when "Tracy" comes back online to start taking filling and shipping orders and enough time hasn't passed I will share that information and my conclusion here if things aren't already back to normal by that point.

I hope that answers your question.

It actually does and thank you for your reply.
I understand not wanting to share your personal info and I hope that this method to know about Tracy will be useful for the community.

 

[Ghoul]

Interesting. When you say .5ml. I’d have to either take a much stronger dose or reconstitute with a lot more bac water which won’t fit in the vials, so will need transferring.

Any reason (except maybe being sensible) for filtering?

What dose are you currently taking? Vials can hold 3ml.

By filtering you're eliminating immune reaction inducing protein aggregates, as well as particulates (glass, stopper rubber, etc) which further increase the immune response.

This vial appears crystal clear to the naked eye:



Immunogenicity causes antibodies to develop against the peptide, clearing it from the body more quickly, reducing its effectiveness. Over the long term, you can develop a long lasting, even permanent reduction in effectiveness.

In essence, protein aggregates turn the peptide into a "vaccine" like form, causing you to develop an immunity to it.

There are rare, much worse consequences, like the potential of developing cross immunity to the natural hormones Tirz is replicating, but the loss of effectiveness is the most likely risk.

Here's a FDA produced chart of GLP drugs tested for their immunogenic reactions. The samples on the left of each chart are pharma. The two on the right are compounders (ie, legal UGL). As you can see, the immune response to the non-pharma GLPs is as much as 2000x stronger.

The chart on the right shows the impact of filtering. In one of the two non-pharma samples, filtering reduced immunogenicity by 80%, which would help preserve its effectiveness.

 

[Wrangel7]

Hello everyone,

I’d like to provide an update. Approximately 70% of our issues have been resolved, but we still have around 30% left to sort out before we can resume Op. The situation has been far more complicated to resolve than anticipated, and it’s taking much longer than expected. Unfortunately, I can’t provide an exact timeline for when we’ll be back, but I can assure you that we will return soon, despite the significant losses, mental stress, and all the dog shit we've been dealing with during this period. Contrary to what some might imagining us sipping piña coladas on Caribbean black titties, this has been an incredibly difficult ordeal. I sincerely hope no one else has to go through what we’ve endured and are still working to resolve.

The AAS and peptides biz is now heavily regulated and highly risky. Despite all the OPSEC we implemented, our operations were impacted during the crackdown, given the scale of our trading company, we ended up in the same range as production factories. At the end of the day, we’re not operating in the shadows, we’re a legally registered company with offices and warehouses.... so not out of the reach.

Once we’re back, we will make things right for every pending order and every reshipment that’s needed. I’ve always been a man/women of my word, and while financial gain hasn’t been my primary motivation, 2024 has turned into a non-profit year due to these events—despite the hard work we’ve put in throughout the year.

For OPSEC reasons, I can't log in except on very few occasional basis, so sorry about that, but I can't answer any comment after my post until we're back.

We're so back!!

 

[JamesNZ]

What dose are you currently taking? Vials can hold 3ml.

By filtering you're eliminating immune reaction inducing protein aggregates, as well as particulates (glass, stopper rubber, etc) which further increase the immune response.

This vial appears crystal clear to the naked eye:

View attachment 316326

Immunogenicity causes antibodies to develop against the peptide, clearing it from the body more quickly, reducing its effectiveness. Over the long term, you can develop a long lasting, even permanent reduction in effectiveness.

In essence, protein aggregates turn the peptide into a "vaccine" like form, causing you to develop an immunity to it.

There are rare, much worse consequences, like the potential of developing cross immunity to the natural hormones Tirz is replicating, but the loss of effectiveness is the most likely risk.

Here's a FDA produced chart of GLP drugs tested for their immunogenic reactions. The samples on the left of each chart are pharma. The two on the right are compounders (ie, legal UGL). As you can see, the immune response to the non-pharma GLPs is as much as 2000x stronger.

The chart on the right shows the impact of filtering. In one of the two non-pharma samples, filtering reduced immunogenicity by 80%, which would help preserve its effectiveness.

View attachment 316324

Bro, do you have any links with all this information you share, together in one place? Or a number of links. I have a mate who has what seems to be an auto immune response after he pins peptides. I'm just wondering it this info could help him.. Sorry for being a pain.

 

[Wrangel7]

Immunogenicity causes antibodies to develop against the peptide, clearing it from the body more quickly, reducing its effectiveness. Over the long term, you can develop a long lasting, even permanent reduction in effectiveness.

Could this be causing desensitisation to rHGH more so than very high injection frequency?

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/87/8/3573/2846550

 

[Ghoul]

Could this be causing desensitisation to rHGH more so than very high injection frequency?

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/87/8/3573/2846550

Yes.

HGH is the only peptide / protein drug routinely monitored for immunogenicity at the clinic level. There's a blood test available for it.

One of the ways it's dealt with is switching brands, to see if antibody levels go down and the HGH starts working again. Since all HGH is somatropin, the only difference between brands are the excipient ingredients in the formulation, which mainly serve to minimize aggregation to prevent immunogenicity.

Here are children who lost response to HGH from immunogenicity and the methods used to try and fix it. "Inhibition" is how much HGH effectiveness was reduced.



Here's a measure of the antibodies produced by different pharma formulations, most of which can be attributed to aggregates.



UGL is certainly worse. No anti-aggregate measures are taken (slightly wrong PH alone can cause aggregation to get 10x worse). No immunogenicity tests are conducted. "I've never noticed immunogenicity". Would you notice a 15-20% drop in effectiveness over a year?

Filtering reduces immunogenicity, ensures sterility, prevents particulates like common glass delamination and stopper rubber from getting into your body and eventually your organs where they accumulate, causing micro embolisms. It's all upside.