Qingdao Sigma - Custom TRT+ Blend - HPLC - Jano

[Ryu82]

Requested 150/150mg blend of test E and Primo E. Blind tested.

3 kits on hand, enough to TRT+ for 5 years with a couple double or triple dose runs in the mix.

Im satisfied by the results. No idea about PIP yip as I was waiting on the test data.

 

[theotherguy]

Thanks for sharing

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

Thank you for sharing the lab test results

 

[juicebro]

Do you usually run primo and test in equal dosages? No issues with low e2?

Looking forward to hearing about pip

 

[Ryu82]

Do you usually run primo and test in equal dosages? No issues with low e2?

Looking forward to hearing about pip

Never run primo before as I never wanted to drop the cash for it. But I’m old now so I wanted something more then TRT but also safer. At least in theory. 1:1 was recommended by vigorous Steve so I figured why not. I can always back off the blend to 100/100 week and fill the other 50-75mg with extra test it needed.

 

[SkankHunt]

Nice dude. Was the min 3 kits?

 

[Ryu82]

Nice dude. Was the min 3 kits?

Yip. Sitting on 30 vials. Pretty wild as my stash is a little out of hand now.

 

[Deleted member 127229]

Requested 150/150mg blend of test E and Primo E. Blind tested.

3 kits on hand, enough to TRT+ for 5 years with a couple double or triple dose runs in the mix.

Im satisfied by the results. No idea about PIP yip as I was waiting on the test data.

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Will sesame oil last 5 years?? I know most mct and gso always has an expiration of 1-2 years.

 

[Kappakappa]

Nice! Personally i have to run test littlebit higher than primo otherwise i crush my e2.

 

[Ryu82]

Will sesame oil last 5 years?? I know most mct and gso always has an expiration of 1-2 years.

Should be OK, Im sure with a few blast of it in there my batch will end up lasting about 3 years anyways (all properly stored)

 

[Harley00]

You can get away with primo/test 1:1 especially if you throw in a small amount of hcg.

 

[Harley00]

The tests did come in a bit low though. But at least it is what they claim on the label. Good decision to test, thnx for showing us.

 

[Ryu82]

The tests did come in a bit low though. But at least it is what they claim on the label. Good decision to test, thnx for showing us.

For the coin I dropped on the order and the mixed feedback in the thread, 100% needed to test it. @janoshik was great as honestly, I had trouble getting the sample to him. It came back better then I was expecting, so I am happy with it.

 

[ImHereForBothReasons]

The tests did come in a bit low though. But at least it is what they claim on the label. Good decision to test, thnx for showing us.

To be fair, even prescibed hormones form a licensed compounding pharmacy have a +
or - 20% dosing accuracy.

Accuracy of testosterone concentrations in compounded testosterone products - PubMed

Testosterone concentrations in compounded testosterone products can be variable and potentially compromise the efficacy and safety of treatment.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And “The results suggest that an accuracy of +/- 10% labeled claim is the least variation a pharmacist can expect when extemporaneously compounding prescriptions.”

Accuracy in prescriptions compounded by pharmacy students - PubMed

Most compounded prescriptions are not analyzed to determine the accuracy of the employed instruments and procedures. The assumption is that the compounded prescription will be +/- 5% the labeled claim. Two classes of School of Pharmcacy students who received repeated instruction and supervision...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Harley00]

For the coin I dropped on the order and the mixed feedback in the thread, 100% needed to test it. @janoshik was great as honestly, I had trouble getting the sample to him. It came back better then I was expecting, so I am happy with it.

Oh for sure, I probably will use this lab in the furture as well, for the price its still very good for sure.
Thank you for testing it.

 

[Harley00]

To be fair, even prescibed hormones form a licensed compounding pharmacy have a +
or - 20% dosing accuracy.

Accuracy of testosterone concentrations in compounded testosterone products - PubMed

Testosterone concentrations in compounded testosterone products can be variable and potentially compromise the efficacy and safety of treatment.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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And “The results suggest that an accuracy of +/- 10% labeled claim is the least variation a pharmacist can expect when extemporaneously compounding prescriptions.”

Accuracy in prescriptions compounded by pharmacy students - PubMed

Most compounded prescriptions are not analyzed to determine the accuracy of the employed instruments and procedures. The assumption is that the compounded prescription will be +/- 5% the labeled claim. Two classes of School of Pharmcacy students who received repeated instruction and supervision...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

That was also gel, everyone knows gel/creams are shit lol

 

[ImHereForBothReasons]

That was also gel, everyone knows gel/creams are shit lol

You’re right. I added a second link on the limitations of compounding accuracy in general.

Edit: What this means is many UGL are more accurate than the test from a TRT clinic. Maybe not QDS, though for the price I’ll just have it tested when I order.

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

That was also gel, everyone knows gel/creams are shit lol

We have seen pharma HGH tested 20% underdosed, shared by Skank.

HPLC Genotropin 36iu

 

[Harley00]

We have seen pharma HGH tested 20% underdosed, shared by Skank.

HPLC Genotropin 36iu

Yes opti threw up some tests last year of some pharma vs generic as well, the pharma didn't do so well, so i guess it happens.

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

Yes opti threw up some tests last year of some pharma vs generic as well, the pharma didn't do so well, so i guess it happens. View attachment 162768

It's simple, because many think that pharma make their own raws, which is absolutely false, most of western pharma import their raws from China, and most of pharmaceutical labs cannot afford organic synthesis costs done locally.

Pharma are just like UGL with importation permissions, so they do not have to deal with legal issues and customs, they have often more quality check than UGL, but it's same same, all from Chinese factories.

We do offer most of pharma products: antibiotics, paracetamol, antidepressants, heart burn drugs, pain killers, diarrhea traitement, hiv, all what you can find or imagine in your local pharma store.

Same for universities, and research labs, they do purchase from China all their materials, with research import permission, examples:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1319016421001468

"FLB was purchased from Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd. (Qingdao, China). "

https://www.ejmcm.com/article_3304_99d83089286120c2761495e38c7977a0.pdf

"The major chemicals were purchased from Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd. All commercially available reagents were used without further purification."

https://cn.bio-protocol.org/bio101/r9969645

"Raloxifene hydrochloride (RLX) was from Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd., Qingdao, China. "

https://ur.booksc.eu/book/81316686/1cba06

"Bovine pepsin was purchased from Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd."

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.iecr.0c02005

"Sesbania powder (SP) was commercially supplied from Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd. (Qingdao, China)"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8175053/

"PV was obtained as a gift sample from Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd. Shandong, China."

"Oregano oil was gifted by Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd., Shandong, China."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8637040/

"A 30 mg/kg solution of TIA NaCl (Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., purity verified by NMR analysis) was delivered at a dose of 0.1 ml/10 grams mouse weight via intraperitoneal injection twice per day for 14 days. "

https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4923/13/12/2150/pdf

"Minoxidil was gifted by Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd. (Qingdao, China)."