QSC floaters in test e and tren e

[MyNameIsJeff]

you suck

'low IQ drama queen'

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Just out of curiosity. Why is not possible to decrease the strength of the vacuum that drives the oil through the filter? And/or or to change the filter after a lower amount of ml filtered? Would this not reduce the risk of filter fibers significantly?

In terms of downsides, the oil filtering process would take more time due to reduced flow speed and more frequent manual filter changes. Hence:

- More labor hours to be paid for the operators of the production facility.
- More money spent on filters
- Marginally higher energy costs

I doubt that the facilities are operating around the clock, so it seems unlikely that additional facilities would need to be rented/bought.

Seems like a marginal cost increase per vial, or where am I going wrong, Tracy?

Already said that’s not in his interest. It’s a Chinese source. We haven’t learned by now that they don’t give a fuck?

“Heres cheap oil. Pin it, filter it, toss it or stfu pussy”.

Idk how people still support this shit. The epitome of not caring about the customer. Why would they change when people keep buying. They drop the most disrespectful comments I’ve ever seen, and people still eat them up. It’s pathetic.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

What’s the word @nightprowler7

 

[Ghoul]

 

[nightprowler7]

What’s the word @nightprowler7

Sorry fam, pressed the wrong button

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Sorry fam, pressed the wrong button

All good. Was wondering if I was missing something.

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

Already said that’s not in his interest. It’s a Chinese source. We haven’t learned by now that they don’t give a fuck?

“Heres cheap oil. Pin it, filter it, toss it or stfu pussy”.

Idk how people still support this shit. The epitome of not caring about the customer. Why would they change when people keep buying. They drop the most disrespectful comments I’ve ever seen, and people still eat them up. It’s pathetic.

If Tracy doesn't care at all, then why did he eventually implement the enhanced testing of his recent oils batches, costing him thousands of dollars?

Although a little volatile at times, he is clearly a reasonable guy who strives to improve his products and to grow his business.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

If Tracy doesn't care at all, then why did he eventually implement the enhanced testing of his recent oils batches, costing him thousands of dollars?

Although a little volatile at times, he is clearly a reasonable guy who strives to improve his products and to grow his business.

It means nothing if your gear looks like a dirty fish tank. If someone hands you that vial off the street, you gonna pin it?

Slow it down. Use quality filters. These aren’t big asks. Kind of the bare minimum……

It’s at the interest of sales and profit. Not risk mitigation. “How can we keep these guys quiet. Here’s your testing. Oil is safe”. Please don’t get it confused.

 

[Ghoul]

It means nothing if your gear looks like a dirty fish tank.

Slow it down. Use quality filters. These aren’t big asks. Kind of the bare minimum……

It’s at the interest of sales and profit. Not risk mitigation.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

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India street food washed down with QSC oil.

 

[Ghoul]

India street food washed down with QSC oil.

You'd be amazed how good that stuff looks after running it through a .22um filter...

 

[readalot]

I truly hate to see that this is now being accepted,

Jury is still out. Let's make sure it isn't by educating members and not settling for this being acceptable.

@MyNameIsJeff and you just summarized the intelligent corrective actions to explore if QSC had the initiative to fix this situation. Excellent analysis and comments.

It does not compute allowing a vendor to consistently get away with this. And now flaunts it with impunity. So let's find out if this really is MESO after members are presented with the facts. Fact: this situation is 100% addressable. And incremental cost ... QSC ain't dumb. They know it is trivial. So then the question is...Why not address the issue?

Even worst case, a $5 vs $7 vial?

So, what are you going to do about this MESO members?

 

[Ghoul]

Jury is still out. Let's make sure it isn't by educating members and not settling for this being acceptable.

@MyNameIsJeff just summarized the intelligent corrective actions to explore if QSC had the initiative to fix this situation. Excellent analysis Jeff.

It does not compute allowing a vendor to consistently get away with this. And now flaunts it with impunity. So let's find out if this really is MESO after members are presented with the facts. Fact: this situation is 100% addressable.

To be honest I thought the new batches had those Tren-H stickers.

 

[readalot]

To be honest I thought the new batches had those Tren-H stickers.

Yet QSC states:

QSC filter fiber floaters can be found on occasional basis, and nothing can be done about it. I won't give any fake hopes about it, my best was done.

They obviously can fix the issue.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

So then the question is...Why not address the issue?

Even worst case, a $5 vs $7 vial?

So, what are you going to do about this MESO members?

The floaters being the issue?

You know why. Because it’s something the consumer can do and doesn’t affect their production or bottom line.

“Just filter it bro”. It becomes your problem.

Now if the public couldn’t get access to .22um filters, then what. “I can’t filter this”. Rendered unless. Sales drop. Now it’s their problem, not yours.

It’s all simple shit. Which shouldn’t be a problem in the first place. Aren’t floaters the number one no no in risk mitigation. This isn’t a “best deal on test” board.

 

[readalot]

The floaters being the issue?

You know why. Because it’s something the consumer can do and doesn’t affect their production or bottom line.

“Just filter it bro”. It becomes your problem.

Now if the public couldn’t get access to .22um filters, then what. “I can’t filter this”. Rendered unless. Sales drop. Now it’s their problem, not yours.

Bottom line: never accept that product in an injection vial. Every time you buy that product you (member) are spitting in the face of everyone who has ever worked towards harm reduction and education on this site. Period.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Bottom line: never accept that product in an injection vial. Every time you buy that product you (member) are spitting in the face of everyone who has ever worked towards harm reduction and education on this site. Period.

This exactly

 

[Sampei]

Just out of curiosity. Why is not possible to decrease the strength of the vacuum that drives the oil through the filter? And/or or to change the filter after a lower amount of ml filtered? Would this not reduce the risk of filter fibers significantly?

In terms of downsides, the oil filtering process would take more time due to reduced flow speed and more frequent manual filter changes. Hence:

- More labor hours to be paid for the operators of the production facility.
- More money spent on filters
- Marginally higher energy costs

I doubt that the facilities are operating around the clock, so it seems unlikely that additional facilities would need to be rented/bought.

Seems like a marginal cost increase per vial, or where am I going wrong, Tracy?

@Qingdao Sigma Chemicals what do you say? Maybe a solution is easily achievable no?

 

[Sicsemptyran]

I understand not everyone has the same means, but there should be some nonnegotiable standards. If you’re unable to afford anything other than QSC oil, you do not have the means to be able to afford a lifestyle involving AAS. Simple as that.

And to anyone that says we should all be filtering oils anyway, that’s an insane argument to make for QSC. I filter my household tap, but it doesn’t mean I’d just shrug my shoulders and accept “I filter it anyway” if the state started pumping wastewater to my house.

 

[readalot]

@Qingdao Sigma Chemicals what do you say? Maybe a solution is easily achievable no?

It is. Requires the vendor to give a F.