Questions regarding HGH/Bac Water storage

[LeeroyMatinta]

Hi,

I’m seeking advice on how to properly store HGH and Bac Water. I have HGH powder from QSC and Bac Water (Watermed, 30x1ml ampoules for €30) from Deus Medical. Could someone provide guidance on the following:

1. How long does HGH powder last in the refrigerator before it expires, and how long does reconstituted HGH last once mixed?
2. How long does unopened Bac Water (in ampoules) last before it expires (I suppose it doesn’t belong to the fridge)?
3. Where should Bac Water be stored? Do I need to refrigerate it before reconstitution?
4. Are there any cheaper sources for Bac Water (in Europe) that you’d recommend?

Thank you

 

[pigeonhed]

Welcome to the board.

New Member Thread

Best Wishes. All the questions you should be able to answer easy with some light reading.

 

[LeeroyMatinta]

Welcome to the board.

New Member Thread

Best Wishes. All the questions you should be able to answer easy with some light reading.

Thank you. I searched online, some people say you should store bac water in the fridge and some people say you shouldn’t, so I am a bit confused.

 

[Ghoul]

Don't chill BAC water, it'll just cause the alcohol to separate. In ampules it'll last forever.

Refrigerate your HGH.

 

[LeeroyMatinta]

Don't chill BAC water, it'll just cause the alcohol to separate. In ampules it'll last forever.

Refrigerate your HGH.

And before reconstituting my hgh, should I put the bac water in the fridge for 10min or never put it in the fridge?

 

[Ghoul]

And before reconstituting my hgh, should I put the bac water in the fridge for 10min or never put it in the fridge?

I wouldn't refrigerate it before reconstitution. It'll make dissolving the peptide more difficult.

I keep the reconstituted peptide vials in small pill bottles. After removing from the refrigerator, I allow 10 minutes for it to come to room temperature before opening. This keeps condensation from collecting on the stopper, and room temperature injections have a lower incidence of uncomfortable reactions.

 

[Sampei]

Don't chill BAC water, it'll just cause the alcohol to separate. In ampules it'll last forever.

Refrigerate your HGH.

I always kept my BAC in the fridge, never noticed any separation tho

 

[AlexDavis43]

I always kept my BAC in the fridge, never noticed any separation tho

Same. BAC water, lyophilized peptides, reconstituted peptides. All fridge.

I wouldn't refrigerate it before reconstitution. It'll make dissolving the peptide more difficult.

I keep the reconstituted peptide vials in small pill bottles. After removing from the refrigerator, I allow 10 minutes for it to come to room temperature before opening. This keeps condensation from collecting on the stopper, and room temperature injections have a lower incidence of uncomfortable reactions.

I've had no difficulty reconstituting or any uncomfortable reactions with my patented Basic Fridge Protocol™ (see above). And I'm getting 25 vials of BAC from medex at a time so they're in the fridge for a while.

 

[Ghoul]

Same. BAC water, lyophilized peptides, reconstituted peptides. All fridge.



I've had no difficulty reconstituting or any uncomfortable reactions with my patented Basic Fridge Protocol™ (see above). And I'm getting 25 vials of BAC from medex at a time so they're in the fridge for a while.

Better tell those retards at Hospira / Pfizer to stop giving out bad info on the labels, god knows how many doctors and hospitals are putting patients at risk by letting their BAC go sour unrefrigerated:



And look at these pharma time wasters. $1,000 a dose for their HGH and you'd think they would have more qualified personnel on staff not adding pointless steps to the injection process:



This reminds me if I ever need good cancer treatment in NYC, I'd better skip MSK and go to a hospital where they know what they're doing. "World Class Medicine" my ass:

 

[AlexDavis43]

Better tell those retards at Hospira / Pfizer to stop giving out bad info on the labels, god knows how many doctors and hospitals are putting patients at risk by letting their BAC go sour unrefrigerated:

View attachment 295815

And look at these pharma time wasters. $1,000 a dose for their HGH and you'd think they would have more qualified personnel on staff not adding pointless steps to the injection process:

View attachment 295816

This reminds me if I ever need good cancer treatment in NYC, I'd better skip MSK and go to a hospital where they know what they're doing. "World Class Medicine" my ass:

View attachment 295817

Say it with me,

 

[LeeroyMatinta]

Better tell those retards at Hospira / Pfizer to stop giving out bad info on the labels, god knows how many doctors and hospitals are putting patients at risk by letting their BAC go sour unrefrigerated:

View attachment 295815

And look at these pharma time wasters. $1,000 a dose for their HGH and you'd think they would have more qualified personnel on staff not adding pointless steps to the injection process:

View attachment 295816

This reminds me if I ever need good cancer treatment in NYC, I'd better skip MSK and go to a hospital where they know what they're doing. "World Class Medicine" my ass:

View attachment 295817

Say it with me,

My bac water is in ampoules from deusmedical, on the page it say store in a cool and dry place below 30 degree celsius.
So should I still put it in the fridge?


Also does someone have a better source for bac water that ships to europe? (I pay 30€ for 30ml with deusmedical.) i heard about medexsupply, but the shipping would cost 225$ for me, even with that it would still be cheaper than deusmedical, but I dont need 25 packs.

 

[lilhawk]

Honestly it doesn't matter. I have stored my Bacteriostatic water in the fridge and not in the fridge, makes no difference. I store my Serostim in the fridge even before reconstitution, and I have stored it outside the fridge before reconstituted. Doesn't make a difference either way.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

Better tell those retards at Hospira / Pfizer to stop giving out bad info on the labels, god knows how many doctors and hospitals are putting patients at risk by letting their BAC go sour unrefrigerated:

View attachment 295815

And look at these pharma time wasters. $1,000 a dose for their HGH and you'd think they would have more qualified personnel on staff not adding pointless steps to the injection process:

View attachment 295816

This reminds me if I ever need good cancer treatment in NYC, I'd better skip MSK and go to a hospital where they know what they're doing. "World Class Medicine" my ass:

View attachment 295817

Jeeze bro, really hit a nerve over the bac water in the fridge.

 

[Ghoul]

Jeeze bro, really hit a nerve over the bac water in the fridge.

Just poking a little fun at the weird things some of us do around here, and a sanity check by referring to how the actual pros do things.

Bac is just water and alcohol, neither of which is temp dependent and should last forever, and room temp injections are known to cause fewer reactions and be more comfortable, though HGH isn't one of the main PIP causing compounds from cold shots, it's also a good practice to bring any vials to room temp before piercing a stopper, because condensate has lots of bacteria in it.

But each to his own, I doubt any of us follow best practice to the letter all the time.

 

[ownbeat]

Why does bac water have an expiration date printed on it?

 

[Ghoul]

Why does bac water have an expiration date printed on it?

Because:

1 - (the primary reason) In the US, every medical product must have an NDC registration number and an expiration date by law.



2 - The chlorobutyl stopper and plastic bottle will eventually leach chemicals into the liquid, which can interact with the meds being reconstituted.

 

[ownbeat]

Because:

1 - (the primary reason) In the US, every medical product must have an NDC registration number and an expiration date by law.

View attachment 295964

2 - The chlorobutyl stopper and plastic bottle will eventually leach chemicals into the liquid, which can interact with the meds being reconstituted.

Why only two years then? it takes longer than that for the plastic to degrade.

 

[Ghoul]

Why only two years then? it takes longer than that for the plastic to degrade.

Manufacturers can claim 2 year stability for pharmaceuticals without providing additional evidence. If they want a longer shelf life they have to submit evidence, which is done occasionally.

But it's not actually in their interest to have a longer date than that. If it's got to be tossed, and repurchased all the better for their sales.

Something like 80% of meds are still fine 10 years after expiration, at room temperature. but manufacturers have no incentive to get the FDA to approve that for them. Perverse incentive to short date this stuff, unfortunately.

 

[onlyontrt]

Honestly it doesn't matter. I have stored my Bacteriostatic water in the fridge and not in the fridge, makes no difference. I store my Serostim in the fridge even before reconstitution, and I have stored it outside the fridge before reconstituted. Doesn't make a difference either way.

Serostim source?

 

[AlexDavis43]

Serostim source?

You can sign up for Chase Irons' group and apparently he'll hook you up with a source. It's still expensive.