rana's first anavar cycle

Happy I think this post is more about you than it is Rana. Did you count the "I"s in it? And is yours the only approved path to achieve the goal you're assuming both you and Rana have?

Opinions are awesome. Everyone has one......you know where I'm going with this. No matter if you approve or disapprove of someone's personal decision to use AAS you cannot tell them what to do. Rana didn't come to the board with a "should I or shouldn't I" question. The shipped had sailed on that decision. Because her body and goals don't meet your approval is no reason to rip her a new asshole. Besides we're all new at this. You just finished your second cycle. Maybe a little more time and wisdom is needed before you think of yourself as worthy to serve as a resource or source of knowledge. You've made some decent gains but fucking Christ on a cracker don't be an asshole.


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You're right...I was kind of an asshole. Real life makes it easier to think before you say.

Sorry Rana. Btitkalami Arabi? Ana asfeh gidan.
 
Well, you're doing something wrong if this is three years of lifting and you're already turning to gear. Maybe if you tried something proven and different than your failing routine, you would have the muscle you want without even having to use gear. People who work their asses off consistently have results. You have none. Muscle building is simple and it's science - if you eat, rest, and work your muscles, they grow. It's like the laws of night and day.

I can tell from your response that you want an audience rather than actual input and results. You're putting on a show and want people to 'watch'. You're not helping the community of lifting women at all.
Wow look what the cat dragged in...Happy! Nice to see you back in your old ways and bullying others with your feminist approach that you can work as hard as men and even harder than them or anyone else. Koodos to you ;)

If you read Rana post from the begining, then you'd understand better. And by the way, who made you God to judge people and be so nasty towards them? Just because you were here about 6 months ago as a newbie and now an expert? WOW! No need to be so rude, you were in the exact same spot... learning as a noob. Oh and let me remind you, you did post your share of pics too so don't be a hypocrite. Everyone is allowed to post progress pics... maybe not porn hub approved like some like to post to get attention and likes.

Also, you fail to realize that we don't all have the exact same goals as you. ..not everyone wants to be a powerlifter or look like one. (Yes I said it again and I know that drives you bonkers but I go by the PL girls I see and know in my gyms). Although I know of one future PL and she's all about aesthetics but strong as ever, especially for her size and will kick ass when she competes. So just because some want the look, doesn't mean we don't train hard or lift heavy. We also don't all have the same stats as you that we all must do what Happy does. And truthfully, if you have all pieces in place and understand your nutritional/training needs and what it takes to achieve and crush your goals, just because for your body 1600 cals is starving, to others it is a great accomplishment and they do make great progress.

Constructive criticism is always welcome and encouraged but you take such an asshole turn with it... I can do this, I can lift this, I am the greatest lifter bullshit. C'mon Happy, give your head a shake and maybe catch up on threads before you rip the new girls apart for your own pleasure as it makes you feel better about yourself.

Finally, we are all here to learn from each other and pass on our own experiences as it may help someone else... and most importantly, those who log do it for the community support and to help themselves achieve their goals as it keeps them accountable as well as for future reference.

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It's like Instagram up in here. I came on Meso to get off all the Facebook and Instagram female fitness industry bullshit, but you can't even escape it here. I fell into it for a while, like you. Feeling bad for 'starving myself' and having body dismorphia. Following ladies who'd talk like this all the time, Taking sexy selfies and posting them on the internet doesn't help this mindset. You're not doing yourself any favors right now. You'd help your body image out by going into the gym in a hoodie and sweats and leaving your cell phone in your bag, then leaving the gym and going out to do something that enriches your being, like enjoying nature or volunteering time, or reading a book, or learning something new.

You're not going to get anywhere by immersing yourself in the female fitness industry if you have such issues.
Happy, your own insecurities are shining through. ..

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So this is what the women's section has become?? Tsk tsk. I stopped in to check and my mind is a bit blown...

Look girlfriend - you're cute and and have a nice body. I'm going to give it like the guys do in their sections.

I had MUCH MUCH more quality mass natural and after 2 years of lifting than you have after a couple cycles. I knew I wanted to build, and I knew the kind of lifestyle it took. I knew nothing about gear though. And I knew I had my gender against me.

You're doing something wrong, you're starting too early.

You know how I did it? I lifted and I ate and I rested. I didn't take ass pics and selfies. I was too sore and inflamed and bloated from eating.

On Monday, I squatted as heavy as I could for 6+ sets. Then, I single leg lunged with 135 for 4+ sets. Then, I deadlifted. Then I I did romanian DLs. In the same session.

I ate 30+ grams of protein for breakfast. Then I had a protein snack. Protein for lunch, protein for dinner. Real food. Chicken breasts, eggs, beans, rice, potatoes. I slept for 10 hours, 12 sometimes if I had the time.

Tuesday, I heavy benched, OHP, rows and accessories. I sweat. I hurt. After heavy bench and OHP, I'd slap on a plate and fucking row that bitch barbell until my triceps felt like they'd fall off.

I did lower/upper, rest, lower/upper. Powerlifting like this is really high volume and frequency. I could never keep up like that now!

Wednesday I would rest and eat. I didn't take any fucking pictures because my arms fucking HURT from my lifting and I wanted to be in bed resting or stuffing my face. No way could I lift them to stop to take a fucking ass pic in the mirror. Get your priorities straight!

On Thursday and Friday, I'd repeat. For 2 years I did all the compound lifts like this - day in, day out. I went when I was tired and sore. I never skipped a day. On the weekends I'd do met con to keep the muscles pumped and used to endurance.

Again, I didn't take pictures. I was eating and I wasn't lean or 'in shape'. I was lifting to build, and I knew as a woman, I needed to train like a man and then some. I would come out of the weight room drenched in sweat and absolutely knackered.

Then, it was time to cut. I cut my carbs lower and went on a 4 month cut with no cheats. I lost 40 lbs and voila...muscle. I started getting asked if I was on AAS and finally after a couple years of being asked I looked into gear. However, even on gear, there was never a time I built better muscle than the beginning when I ate, slept and lifted. I worked hard and I put on muscle quickly. And then when I dieted, my body was well fed and trained and it shed fat SO QUICKLY. Even with gear and fat loss aids, I've never been able to replicate the first 2-3 years of my lifting career.

RANA - Your body is a clean slate. Even after your cycles, you don't have a lot of muscle. You're not eating enough of the right macro. You're not lifting enough - often enough, heavy enough, with enough volume. If you do it right, you don't need these substances right now.

Nobody is giving you the story straight, but I see these pics and can barely tell you pick up a weight. I'm not trying to be mean, I just want to give you some realistic advice. Mass comes with hard work. Mass comes with time. Mass comes with food. Mass comes with rest. Mass comes with consistency. Even into my 6th year of lifting, my body is changing. Put down your camera, put down the needles. go buy a pound of chicken breasts, get in the gym, and fucking LIFT. Stop this wannabe fitness model bullshit. You're not even close. If you have the drive and the passion for lifting though, you could be there in a couple years. Then you can strive to perfect your craft and body.

Right now you have a ton of work to do.

Jesus Christ...you lost me after paragraph one with 7 fucking "I"s...

And please continue to keep it "real" Vanilla Ice...

Frank
 
Ok time to update, sorry guys with beingso slacky with updates.

I lowered the dose to 25 mg and the sensitivity down there is almost gone thank god, still swollen thou, my voice is worse and everyone is commenting that i sound like a guy *dies a lil inside*.

Last pin in a few days and i am done, overall i am progressing in a very nice way, my weights keep going up and i have so much energy at the gym, my midsection is improved too, couldn't be happier.

And the weird thing is my metabolism is speeding up, i have shitty metab. Cause of the history with anorexia, but right now i am on 6 meals, i was on 5 but my trainer added one when we found out i am losing weight on 5.

Pics time

I'm catching up on this a little late.
You've made a lot of progress, Rana. Keep up the good work.
I would definitely drop the primo soon, if not now. Voice changes are pretty concerning.
Crystal had mentioned primo is a long ester and it will take weeks to get out of your system. My concern would be that the deepening of the voice won't be reversible. The sooner you get off, the better.

100 mgs of primo is crazy high, you're very petite. I'm running a 50 mg / week cycle of primo and I can see my voice being affected even at this dosage.

I guess for next cycle, if there is one, try to keep the doses as small as possible.
It's not about how fast you reach your goals at max doses, but finding the least amount of "juice" that will still give results.

Anyway, good luck with the next couple of weeks. Being off cycle sucks for a little bit, but continue to push hard!
 
Actually i feel sorry for HC , it must suck going through life thinking your a victim cause of your gender. Really she is oppressed by her own negative narrow minded self pity.
So fuck that Rana, you do you and let her fight her imaginary fight, i think your doin fine.
 
Actually i feel sorry for HC , it must suck going through life thinking your a victim cause of your gender. Really she is oppressed by her own negative narrow minded self pity.
So fuck that Rana, you do you and let her fight her imaginary fight, i think your doin fine.

Well said...

Frank
 
Sorry i went mia the last couple of days, was so busy with work and life was hectic, a quick catch up.

Day 16: chest and tri.

Kicked ass in the gym, didn't have time to do cardio which drove me crazy.

Still on 15 mg anavar split in the am and pm.
No sides other than the crazy sex drive and a sore throat.
Diet :
Failed to hit 1500 cals again :(

Day 16: legs day.

New pr in the leg press : 200 lbs!
It was a n amazing workout, i had great energy and did 20 mins cardio.
Diet : very crappy and very little portions, i can't wait for ramadan to be over so i can do meal prep and eat freely.

Day 17: rest day.
My trainer kept nagging me to take a day off and refeed myself as he can notice that i am feeling weak those days.

Diet wise: i ate alot! Like 2500 cals, suddenly i felt so hungry and ate everything in sight, i feel so guilty but kept telling myself you can't keep going without a refeeding day esp that my cheat meal was a joke.
I had pasta with white sauce and some meat, cookies with cream and some biscuits, chips.
Yeah i feel so fat :(


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I'm on day 10 of only 5mg of var and have a very sore throat. I's this just a normal side or the beginning of a voice change? My voice sounds same just a bit scratchy like it would with any sore throat. Should I continue with the bar?
 
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