"Raws are not sterile"

[SwitchingUpFast]

seriously instead of arguing don't uses steroids at all. I am not even sure what you are arguing about. Just another useless and pointless thread.

"How common is contamination with microbes right out of the factory?"
"How would I check? Does it matter?"

 

[baxter0312]

this is still useless imo because there is already a thread dedicated to homebrew. That was all i used to homebrew and everything went smooth. If they only did a little research.

Do we really want to discourage people from asking questions though? This is about harm reduction which assumes people are going to use steroids no matter what. They may or may not be too dumb to use the search function. They probably don’t even know what Homebrew is.

You run the risk of fostering a user base that remains ignorant by blasting the new people with dumb questions.

 

[mochul]

"How common is contamination with microbes right out of the factory?"
"How would I check? Does it matter?"

You can send it for testing via janoshik. But i am 100% sure it will be contaminated cause there is no regulation for ugl. You filter it using the appropriate filters to make it sterile. And you use sterile equipment to minimise the risk.That is the most important thing

 

[mochul]

Do we really want to discourage people from asking questions though? This is about harm reduction which assumes people are going to use steroids no matter what. They may or may not be too dumb to use the search function. They probably don’t even know what Homebrew is.

You run the risk of fostering a user base that remains ignorant by blasting the new people with dumb questions.

They can at least ask it on the right section on the already existing thread.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Y they put bacteria in their raws tho

This comment is idiotic..


Bacteria is everywhere.

You do realize staph infections are cause by a normal bacteria in our skin?

 

[DECLAN]

@OP your mouth is full of bacteria right now maybe more than what’s outside your ass. That should answer all your questions regarding this.

 

[cottoneyejoe]

We have been through fair share of raws bags and unfortunately, you will very often encounter stuff you would never expect of something that is supposed to be a pharmaceutical substance. Various unidentified particles, hair etc. Do not even dare to try calling raws sterile please.

Do not get me wrong, I love China, we all love China, they can do very well, we have been cooperating with China on various projects outside pharmaceuticals too, but to get desired results, they need hard supervising even on projects that are official, considered GMP etc. Therefore you can not expect raws that are sold under the counter, basically uncontrolled to be any close to sterile. That is why it is of paramount importance to do the homework on processing them carefully into final product.

Raws are raws, you can process them at home yourself and brew on your own into something useable, but nowadays many people also buy finished, cheap product from China and use directly. Pills...okay...we eat them and the digesting system can get along with whatever, but oils get injected directly into body to be freely absorbed with whatever is inside. Take the money saved and buy some syringe filters at least and filter the gear before you inject into your body.

 

[rockyraccoon]

We have been through fair share of raws bags and unfortunately, you will very often encounter stuff you would never expect of something that is supposed to be a pharmaceutical substance. Various unidentified particles, hair etc. Do not even dare to try calling raws sterile please.

Do not get me wrong, I love China, we all love China, they can do very well, we have been cooperating with China on various projects outside pharmaceuticals too, but to get desired results, they need hard supervising even on projects that are official, considered GMP etc. Therefore you can not expect raws that are sold under the counter, basically uncontrolled to be any close to sterile. That is why it is of paramount importance to do the homework on processing them carefully into final product.

Raws are raws, you can process them at home yourself and brew on your own into something useable, but nowadays many people also buy finished, cheap product from China and use directly. Pills...okay...we eat them and the digesting system can get along with whatever, but oils get injected directly into body to be freely absorbed with whatever is inside. Take the money saved and buy some syringe filters at least and filter the gear before you inject into your body.

Yup. If you want a proper production run of anything in China, you'll have to bring your own tent to the factory floor and supervise everything from start to finish.

 

[narta]

Y they put bacteria in their raws tho

flavor

 

[Ghoul]

Yup. If you want a proper production run of anything in China, you'll have to bring your own tent to the factory floor and supervise everything from start to finish.

Yeah Apple has proven you can get whatever level of quality you're willing to pay for and closely supervise.

But left to their own devices, unlike say a factory in Germany, you'd better be prepared for the worst.

India has a similar aspect of culture, called "Jugaad". Any step in a process deemed non-essential would be skipped to make things more frugal and efficient. Every time the FDA stops watching, many pharm factories skip the mountains of paperwork, falsify electronic data, that doesn't necessarily result in a bad product, but is a safeguard against it.

 

[baxter0312]

see, thanks to Ghoul we now know about Jugaad

How can anyone call this thread useless

 

[BigDadd7]

Y they put bacteria in their raws tho

Come on bro... where did you get the idea that raws are sterile? This is the point where you say, "Thanks guys. I guess I was misinformed." Cut the Simple Jack routine.

 

[SwitchingUpFast]

Thanks guys. I guess I was misinformed

 

[Deskoze38192]

Thanks guys. I guess I was misinformed

Y they put bacteria in their raws tho

I would of picked a different word other than “misinformed”

 

[Kermit]

It is also worth remembering that you will be heating the product. Sometimes up to almost 100 degrees. The main thing is still to try to follow the rules of asepsis both before, and during cooking and after.

 

[Deskoze38192]

It is also worth remembering that you will be heating the product. Sometimes up to almost 100 degrees. The main thing is still to try to follow the rules of asepsis both before, and during cooking and after.

Heating doesn’t sterilize
We don’t “cook”, we brew

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

bunch of babies who got the covid vaccine can't handle wiping their ass without gloves on

drink raw milk you bubble boys and get a functioning immune system

 

[Kermit]

Heating doesn’t sterilize
We don’t “cook”, we brew

Pasteurizes ? You understand that some of the bacteria will die at 60 degrees, some will survive. I didn't say anything about sterilization. By the way, staphylococcus 0.5 – 1.0 μm in diameter.
I'm new to this, can you tell me what size filter we use? I only talked about the rules of asepsis and antiseptics. These are the basics of medicine.

 

[Ghoul]

bunch of babies who got the covid vaccine can't handle wiping their ass without gloves on

drink raw milk you bubble boys and get a functioning immune system

Our immune systems didn't evolve to withstand regular deep intramuscular injections of bacteria.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

Our immune systems didn't evolve to withstand regular deep intramuscular injections of bacteria.

Speak for yourself soyboy