SwitchingUpFast
New Member
"How common is contamination with microbes right out of the factory?"
"How would I check? Does it matter?"
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
"Raws are not sterile"
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"How would I check? Does it matter?"
baxter0312
Member
Do we really want to discourage people from asking questions though? This is about harm reduction which assumes people are going to use steroids no matter what. They may or may not be too dumb to use the search function. They probably don’t even know what Homebrew is.
You run the risk of fostering a user base that remains ignorant by blasting the new people with dumb questions.
You can send it for testing via janoshik. But i am 100% sure it will be contaminated cause there is no regulation for ugl. You filter it using the appropriate filters to make it sterile. And you use sterile equipment to minimise the risk.That is the most important thing
They can at least ask it on the right section on the already existing thread.
Spaceman Spiff
Member
This comment is idiotic..
Bacteria is everywhere.
You do realize staph infections are cause by a normal bacteria in our skin?
cottoneyejoe
Subscriber
We have been through fair share of raws bags and unfortunately, you will very often encounter stuff you would never expect of something that is supposed to be a pharmaceutical substance. Various unidentified particles, hair etc. Do not even dare to try calling raws sterile please.
Do not get me wrong, I love China, we all love China, they can do very well, we have been cooperating with China on various projects outside pharmaceuticals too, but to get desired results, they need hard supervising even on projects that are official, considered GMP etc. Therefore you can not expect raws that are sold under the counter, basically uncontrolled to be any close to sterile. That is why it is of paramount importance to do the homework on processing them carefully into final product.
Raws are raws, you can process them at home yourself and brew on your own into something useable, but nowadays many people also buy finished, cheap product from China and use directly. Pills...okay...we eat them and the digesting system can get along with whatever, but oils get injected directly into body to be freely absorbed with whatever is inside. Take the money saved and buy some syringe filters at least and filter the gear before you inject into your body.
Do not get me wrong, I love China, we all love China, they can do very well, we have been cooperating with China on various projects outside pharmaceuticals too, but to get desired results, they need hard supervising even on projects that are official, considered GMP etc. Therefore you can not expect raws that are sold under the counter, basically uncontrolled to be any close to sterile. That is why it is of paramount importance to do the homework on processing them carefully into final product.
Raws are raws, you can process them at home yourself and brew on your own into something useable, but nowadays many people also buy finished, cheap product from China and use directly. Pills...okay...we eat them and the digesting system can get along with whatever, but oils get injected directly into body to be freely absorbed with whatever is inside. Take the money saved and buy some syringe filters at least and filter the gear before you inject into your body.
rockyraccoon
Member
Yup. If you want a proper production run of anything in China, you'll have to bring your own tent to the factory floor and supervise everything from start to finish.
narta
Member
flavor
Yeah Apple has proven you can get whatever level of quality you're willing to pay for and closely supervise.
But left to their own devices, unlike say a factory in Germany, you'd better be prepared for the worst.
India has a similar aspect of culture, called "Jugaad". Any step in a process deemed non-essential would be skipped to make things more frugal and efficient. Every time the FDA stops watching, many pharm factories skip the mountains of paperwork, falsify electronic data, that doesn't necessarily result in a bad product, but is a safeguard against it.
baxter0312
Member
see, thanks to Ghoul we now know about Jugaad
How can anyone call this thread useless
How can anyone call this thread useless
BigDadd7
Member
Come on bro... where did you get the idea that raws are sterile? This is the point where you say, "Thanks guys. I guess I was misinformed." Cut the Simple Jack routine.
SwitchingUpFast
New Member
Thanks guys. I guess I was misinformed
Deskoze38192
Member
I would of picked a different word other than “misinformed”
Deskoze38192
Member
Heating doesn’t sterilize
We don’t “cook”, we brew
EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH
Member
bunch of babies who got the covid vaccine can't handle wiping their ass without gloves on
drink raw milk you bubble boys and get a functioning immune system
drink raw milk you bubble boys and get a functioning immune system
Pasteurizes ?
You understand that some of the bacteria will die at 60 degrees, some will survive. I didn't say anything about sterilization. By the way, staphylococcus 0.5 – 1.0 μm in diameter. I'm new to this, can you tell me what size filter we use? I only talked about the rules of asepsis and antiseptics. These are the basics of medicine.
Our immune systems didn't evolve to withstand regular deep intramuscular injections of bacteria.
EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH
Member
Speak for yourself soyboy
