janoshik
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Area count is the count of ions detected my the MS.
GC doesn't estimate anything, it's a glorified oven.
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GC doesn't estimate anything, it's a glorified oven.
readalot
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Yes, I corrected my comments above immediately after my brain malfunction. Had GC-FID (but we are talking about GCMS lol) on the brain. Appreciate the response. Thank you.
you saw the sterility tests? why is not shared in here 
readalot
Member
This thread reviews the testing i paid for.you saw the sterility tests? why is not shared in here
Nice job on the sterility tests. Good work.
Also read the thread. I've given you plenty of credit on the forum including here.
Sterility test by Generic Asia - Janoshik
Testosterone Cypionate 250mg/ml
Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml
Testosterone Propionate 100mg/ml
Primobolan 200mg/ml
Cut Stack 150mg/ml
Masteron 200mg/ml
Masteron 100mg/ml
Trenbolone E 200mg/ml
Trenbolone A 100mg/ml
Sustanon 270mg/ml
Deca 300mg/ml
EQ 300mg/ml
NPP 150mg/ml
your welcome guys, enjoy the tests.
Testosterone Cypionate 250mg/ml
Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml
Testosterone Propionate 100mg/ml
Primobolan 200mg/ml
Cut Stack 150mg/ml
Masteron 200mg/ml
Masteron 100mg/ml
Trenbolone E 200mg/ml
Trenbolone A 100mg/ml
Sustanon 270mg/ml
Deca 300mg/ml
EQ 300mg/ml
NPP 150mg/ml
your welcome guys, enjoy the tests.
you saw the sterility tests? why is not shared in here
Yeah, it's really bad you' ve come on this thread, that has nothing to do with you and what you sell just to spite OP.
This is about products that were provided by someone else, in order to put OP's project in practice.
You have been praised by OP and many other members here (myself included, if I may say) for the testing you have conducted.
We know that it has brought a lot of good attention onto you.
Yet, that it is not something you mention.
Through a bit of extra testing and the offering of a superior product, which the tests have also helped highlight, I have seen members that were permanent residents in other threads now buying from you.
People that were so assiduously attentive and obsequious to other sources that I honestly thought were some kind of admin/staff for them.
A couple from the Qsc thread come to mind.
But now there they are, buying from you for themselves, their bfs and mates.
You go and do your thing without the spectacle you are attempting, here.
The tests you have just reposted on OP's thread are on your analytical thread and they don't belong here.
Delete the post above mine, if you care to look a little less pathetic.
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readalot
Member
Like I said, these tests are not applicable to the title of thread. What do you think @Sampei? A little much?
But it is refreshing and commendable for a vendor to test their products above the current Meso standard. Well done on the testing. Feel free to come here and post your endotoxin results on finished oils as well.
I'll also mention this vendor tested his finished oils for metals. So you are a good way through the enhanced testing panel GA. Keep up the great work on the testing. Once you complete the testing I'll happily recognize you to be the first vendor to accomplish the feat.
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this vendor kept his word for sterility test and heavy metal test, got accused of false accusations as well and never got an sorry, despite proofing the claims wrong repeatedly.
Stop the mass spamming of your endotoxin results, it is getting out of hand. If the sources would consider testing the endotoxin they will, but not the way you keep digging into the same question over and over.
i didnt want to ruin this place, but you keep commenting about the same stuff despite i gave you the answer of it.
GA kept his word for providing sterility and heavy metal test, which have been done and available for yall to see.
have an fantastic day everyone.
readalot
Member
What are you on about? What?
You picked two of the 5 tests I mentioned. You ran those two. I said good job.
What false accusations did I accuse you of? You just aren't happy with your newfound volume? Bizarre.
readalot
Member
Project 3 cont.
Comparison between GCMS purity (area counts approximation) and HPLC purity. Use drop down above to see the previously shared GCMS TIC tables for Test C and Test E.
Test E:
Vs.
Test C:
Vs.
Major discrepancy on relative volatilities / ionization, or is HPLC picking up more than just the API and counting as API? Jano did mention the possibility of a testosterone impurity (-ene form missing one hydrogen) being a potential false positive with HPLC.
There isn't going to be any significant difference between the test ester and the test ester impurities on volatility or ionization in the MS.
Love to discuss this. Is reported HPLC purity accurate for these two raws?
UHPLC to the rescue?
HPLC vs UHPLC - How to Choose?
How to choose between HPLC or ultra-high-performance liquid chromatography (UHPLC) as they each have their own advantages and disadvantages
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janoshik
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Correct, I agree, but we can't be (yet) 100% sure whether the changes are not induced by the heat from the GCMS causing loss of hydrogen.
The HPLC used for anabolic steroids is actually UHPLC (Shimadzu as well!).
Generally, in the industry you don't differentiate the two, UHPLC (and UPLC) are subset of HPLC, but generally, it does *not* play a role in the quality of the separation.
The main differences are in solvent consumption, speed, easiness to link it to LCMS etc.
readalot
Member
Thanks for the comments.
So we are back to this:
TE:
Delta-6 TE:
That alkane in TE at C(6)-C(7) ain't budging at room temperature or at any temp your car may reach on a hot day. Shows the raws manufacturer doesn't care or clueless.
This impurity would only be formed during synthesis step.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Delta-6 TE:
That alkane in TE at C(6)-C(7) ain't budging at room temperature or at any temp your car may reach on a hot day. Shows the raws manufacturer doesn't care or clueless.
This impurity would only be formed during synthesis step.
Dehydrogenation - Wikipedia
can you detect this impurity with your standard HPLC method?
Funny that you ask, just today I've detected that, what I also believe to be delta 6 variant, in test cyp raws when I ran the test out of my personal curiosity!
(ignore the autoassigned name for the impurity)
I mean, what else would Jano do over the weekend, right?
It IS allowed in...
As always, I appreciate and admire your scientific curiosity and willingness to discuss all these intricacies. It's the weekend after all. Well done!
Great question whether these alkene variants of Test Cyp/Enan (USP testosterone impurities, etc) are typically counted in the Test Cyp/Enan pile for HPLC.
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readalot
Member
Supposedly shut down for week to do comprehensive testing. In process was my read. No data shared yet. I posted thread above.
readalot
Member
Thanks for the comments.
So we are back to this:
TE:
Delta-6 TE:
That alkane in TE at C(6)-C(7) ain't budging at room temperature or at any temp your car may reach on a hot day. Shows the raws manufacturer doesn't care or clueless.
This impurity would only be formed during synthesis step.
Dehydrogenation - Wikipedia
can you detect this impurity with your standard HPLC method?
Funny that you ask, just today I've detected that, what I also believe to be delta 6 variant, in test cyp raws when I ran the test out of my personal curiosity!
(ignore the autoassigned name for the impurity)
I mean, what else would Jano do over the weekend, right?
It IS allowed in...
As always, I appreciate and admire your scientific curiosity and willingness to discuss all these intricacies. It's the weekend after all. Well done!
Great question whether these alkene variants of Test Cyp/Enan (USP testosterone impurities, etc) are typically counted in the Test Cyp/Enan pile for HPLC.
For comparison...
Would be funny if in a few months everyone wants to join the class action lawsuit against the AAS suppliers wanting a refund on that 10-20% of the their test ester they thought they were getting but weren't.
200 mg/ml [Test Cyp | Test E] becomes 160-180 mg/ml. With API concentration in play, that would get folks attention again. I look forward to learning more.
And that pharma COA one more time:
See those testosterone impurity values?
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readalot
Member
I like the discussion that gentleman, Mcflyfast, was having with Jano and when he asked whether he knew how/if these different variants were metabolised differently.For comparison...
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Would be funny if in a few months everyone wants to join the class action lawsuit against the AAS suppliers wanting a refund on that 10-20% of the their test ester they thought they were getting but weren't.
200 mg/ml [Test Cyp | Test E] becomes 160-180 mg/ml. With API concentration in play, that would get folks attention again. I look forward to learning more.
And that pharma COA one more time:
See those testosterone impurity values?
I am going to read a little more through that thread later on.
Thank you.
readalot
Member
Yes they are USP impurities and not active hormone (or at the least don't possess the same effect at the androgen receptor) once the ester is cleaved.
My pleasure.
I'm pretty new to this world, started legit TRT this year, and have been lurking this forum, and sources for awhile to determine whether I could go UGL and save some money.
Not going to lie readalot, I saw you in a ton of source forums I thought you were just trolling. Just reading the entirety of this thread and the fact you threw up that money shows how genuine the concern is, a thanks for your time and effort this has all been a good read.
Not going to lie readalot, I saw you in a ton of source forums I thought you were just trolling. Just reading the entirety of this thread and the fact you threw up that money shows how genuine the concern is, a thanks for your time and effort this has all been a good read.
readalot
Member
Thanks very much for taking the time to share that. It's the love of learning and feedback like yours that makes all this work worthwhile. I appreciate it.
That is a useful data point. I didn't know I had an
impersonator (?).
In my time I have been on TNation (banned twice and now on "mute"), ExcelMale (banned x 3 or 4), MesoRx (2x soft ban, still here), SST (still there), and ProMuscle (don't post, what's the point? LoL).
So I wouldn't say a ton. The first two aren't source forums. If there are other ones I am on please let me know haha.
Take care.
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