Readalots Enhanced Testing

[BigNoOne]

Ok, so you agree to first part of what I said

and

would reject any sterility testing done by vendors?

I do not reject it, I just don’t find it very meaningful.

Do you really picture a UGL brewing up a batch and then selecting samples so that they are statistically meaningful to demonstrate that all of his products are also sterile? Do you picture a UGL ever admitting that they failed a sterility test? “We failed out carefully plotted statistically meaning testing and had to toss the entire batch.” Lol. Ok. You’re being very optimistic with black market unregulated products.

 

[B Ware]

Pointless as is it won't change anything I am doing.

When you run tests, you have an intervention of what you would do to improve/treat the problem.

There is nothing else I would do/can do to improve it. Therefore it's pointless to test it unless it's out of curiosity

I'm not gonna bother answering these other questions as I think this whole crusade is idiotic.

Thanks

Every since Readalot came here and started on his heavy metal crusade this has been my thought. Sometimes it’s better not to open Pandora’s box. If something did actually pop up on a test result what could be done? Not much. We would just have knowledge that what we are putting in our bodies contains it.

Not many support harm reduction as much as myself. I try to do my part and love to see when you guys test stuff as well. Part of me likes the hype of this thread as it supports harm reduction but I am glad that the findings have been negative and show what most expected, that it’s unnecessary. Again, what could be done if these test revealed something?

 

[readalot]

started on his heavy metal crusade

Never happened. Disinformation.

Post in thread 'Readalots Enhanced Testing'

Yesterday at 10:01 PM

We all knew the heavy metals weren’t in there from the AnabolicLabs project years ago. And it came up several times. Jano had weighed in to indicate that he stopped marketing that analysis because he never detected heavy metals.

Why did you get so obsessed with it?

In case your question is sincere:

Jan 2024:

Agreed on the heavy metals. I don't think that is a major concern but always good to trust but verify. The larger part of this (impurity ID) has not been properly discussed or analyzed. Hence my questions

The "obsession" angle never came from me but from those trying...

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[B Ware]

Never happened. Disinformation

Never happened? You didn’t rant about heavy metal testing? Bud, it’s documented and anyone who was here saw it. How could they not? It wasn’t until recently that you started pushing for all this other testing as well after many of us told you that a lab use to actually test for heavy metals and that neither them or Jano had ever seen a positive test for it.

 

[readalot]

Never happened? You didn’t rant about heavy metal testing? Bud, it’s documented and anyone who was here saw it. How could they not? It wasn’t until recently that you started pushing for all this other testing as well after many of us told you that a lab use to actually test for heavy metals and that neither them or Jano had ever seen a positive test for it.

Negative. You are wrong. Roll the tape, or would you like me to?

You are hallucinating. Care to read the post I attached to #503 above?

 

[readalot]

Every post I ever made here with "metals" sorted by date. Let's set the record straight.

Search results for query: Metal

thinksteroids.com

Enjoy.

 

[readalot]

It wasn’t until recently that you started pushing for all this other testing as well after many of us told you that a lab use to actually test for heavy metals and that neither them or Jano had ever seen a positive test for it.

Utterly false. Sorry Brother, you've been had. Never happened like that but some would like members to believe that.

 

[BigNoOne]

Never happened? You didn’t rant about heavy metal testing? Bud, it’s documented and anyone who was here saw it. How could they not? It wasn’t until recently that you started pushing for all this other testing as well after many of us told you that a lab use to actually test for heavy metals and that neither them or Jano had ever seen a positive test for it.

He never limited it to “heavy metals” - the only ones we oughta be concerned with. He always said “metals” which is much more broad. But you’d have to have a shit ton of metals to make it toxic.

 

[readalot]

First post here mentioning the word metals:

Post in thread 'Janoshik Analytical laboratory testing services'

Oct 14, 2023

GCMS is identity only, pretty much.

Hi. Just curious why your GCMS service is not quantitative?

Where can I find the assays/methods used for qualitative and quantitative AAS tests advertised on your website?

ICP-OES for metals?


Thank you.

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[readalot]

Second post:

Thread 'Source QC and C of A (do you have one?)'

Oct 19, 2023

Some thoughts/suggestions for discussion after looking around here.

Realistic, overkill, get what you pay for, don't care?

Would like to hear members' thoughts, counterpoints, etc. especially on cost vs quality. The path to quality is known. Will people pay or too much for UGL customers?

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Every Source should provide with each shipment ...

1. 3rd party C of A on finished product batch specific to that shipment
- endotoxin screen
- metals with ICP
- purity(ies) / concentration(s) using hplc plus ms (or gcms)

2. C of A for bulk api for each batch (hplc plus ms or gcms)...

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[readalot]

3rd and 4th:

Post in thread 'Are hormones dispensed from U.S. compounding pharmacies worth the cost?'

Dec 19, 2023

$425 per 10 ml vial.

Sweet Jesus. May the big dude (or whatever) up above bless you. Well done. Treat yourself to a GCMS/metals analysis once you have a lab you want to stick with.

That is insane gouging. Most expensive compounded test ester 10 vials (200mg/ml) I've seen are $130.

Take care.

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Post in thread 'Are hormones dispensed from U.S. compounding pharmacies worth the cost?'

Dec 19, 2023

Lol. Crom. Crom is my god.

I've definitely talked to people paying similar, but my clinic was definitely among the most expensive.

I have found a U.S. domestic lab that I like, and got myself supplied for the next 2 years. I figured I shouldn't keep vials longer than that - even though I've heard of many people going 5 years.

Where do you get that testing done? All I've seen are these Janoshik tests that show the percentage of the active compound and nothing more.

not an official endorsement but his service and others offer these add on tests to the typical hplc API...

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Notice a trend. Metals were never mentioned in isolation but part of comprehensive package.

 

[readalot]

He never limited it to “heavy metals” - the only ones we oughta be concerned with. He always said “metals” which is much more broad. But you’d have to have a shit ton of metals to make it toxic.

False as well. Never limited it to "metals" either. Again disinformation. Always part of standard pharma testing package.

The "heavy metals" / "metals" crusade charge is complete bullshit.

Try again.

 

[readalot]

He never limited it to “heavy metals” - the only ones we oughta be concerned with.

This is false as well. USP testing also includes elemental impurities specs like I shared with you previously. Did you look at that material? If you did you would appreciate it's not just heavy metals and hence all metals are evaluated. I was very intentional with my language from the get go.

 

[readalot]

When you are done reading let me know. I'll take the apology. Please don't spread this disinformation again.

Been crystal clear since I got here in Oct 2023. Enjoy the receipts.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Nobody cares to apologize to you. Many of us can't stand your rants. Lol.

On top of that, there is nothing we can do to improve quality control from illegal drug manufacturers .

Might as well to play FDA with your corner street dope dealer

 

[readalot]

Nobody cares to apologize to you. Many of us can't stand your rants.

...And you don't mind being wrong in your facts.

Clear.

 

[readalot]

On top of that, there is nothing we can do to improve quality control from illegal drug manufacturers .

You grow a pair and demand it as a community. What's up with this helpless shit? Come on. For folks that understand how this shit is made it's clear there are knobs to turn. Don't let your ignorance make you a slave.

You sound like the QSC zombies.

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

Pointless as is it won't change anything I am doing.

When you run tests, you have an intervention of what you would do to improve/treat the problem.

There is nothing else I would do/can do to improve it. Therefore it's pointless to test it unless it's out of curiosity

I'm not gonna bother answering these other questions as I think this whole crusade is idiotic.

Thanks

You first identify whether the issue is present, then you come up with solutions. And the solutions would be very obvious.

Let's say that, hypothetically, there were large concentrations of heavy metals in raws. This would be a big issue and would lead customers to demand heavy metal testing from their suppliers. Oils sources could advertise their own testing and show that their raws and oils are not affected. Market forces lead raws producers to clean up their act.

It is also insane to me how many people look at the results of the testing, and given that no major issues were revealed, now say it was pointless.

That's like paying for an inspection of your house that was build by a bunch of illegal immigrants with no formal training. If the building inspector's report does not reveal any structural issues, would you then conclude that the inspection was a 'waste of time'? Of course not. You would have to be functionally retarded to not understand this.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Again, what could be done if these test revealed something?

What happened when we started testing dimer in HGH? You started seeing more HGH with less dimer, and people bought more from those sources with less dimer or zero dimer, and the quality of HGH overall improved.

Given how that played out, it's easy to imagine how the process might repeat with additional tests. For example, if you started finding more endotoxin in some sources' products and less in others, sources with less endotoxin would get more business. Sources whose products contained higher levels would have an incentive to clean up their act.

Remember the classic Peter Drucker quote: "what gets measured gets managed".

 

[readalot]

You would have to be functionally retarded to not understand this.

Sadly I am getting to that point. How many times shall I repeat myself? Maybe 3 more should do it?

It is either what you mention, willfully ignorance, or something more sinister.