RekTest
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So he was buying vials and not doing due diligence
Literally the bare minimum?
So my thought process of these sources all having floaters is from them not doing the above.
Which Matrix literally admitted to not doing.
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Literally the bare minimum?
So my thought process of these sources all having floaters is from them not doing the above.
Which Matrix literally admitted to not doing.
iris
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But is Stan saying he buys presterilised vials and cleans and strilises them again?
I didn't know one had to do that.
What were these matrix ones? Presterilised, I read in the previous page.
In any case, the sterility issue/test is no more part of the testing protocol, but Matrix conducted it, at the time, probably
RekTest
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I mean, am I reading his post wrong? Is that not what Stan is indicating/implying he does , by what he says in his post?
From what were seeing, theres a clear difference somewhere between one source getting floaters and one not. Somewhere one is following a process more closely than the other.
RekTest
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Was this said why this was taken off?
Because I would like to learn why.
I still think it is on equipment, what their using, if its worthwhile but to totally take it off I disagree with
iris
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For reference, since you bring this up, this was posted by Zebedee, 2022:
MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'STANFORD PHARMA PUBLIC SALE 10/24/21'
MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'STANFORD PHARMA PUBLIC SALE 10/24/21'
MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'STANFORD PHARMA PUBLIC SALE 10/24/21'
iris
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Well, it is not worthwhile, contamination can happen and so testing a vial is not representative of the whole batch.
Or that is what I understood.
Maybe tomorrow someone will explain to you better.
Perhaps, FastBun can tell us about this, too
Ehh, I don’t fault matrix or any UGL for buying sterilized vials. Can you imagine washing and drying 100s-1000s of vials all the time? Do you honestly believe UGLs have large laboratory drying ovens? If they do and have it running all the time that will get you busted by the way. The electric company will tell on you.
I honestly don’t believe Matrix vials arrived contaminated with anything that caused floaters but that’s just me speculating.
I mainly just wanted to hear readalots thoughts on the matter and his thoughts on matrix now.
I honestly don’t believe Matrix vials arrived contaminated with anything that caused floaters but that’s just me speculating.
I mainly just wanted to hear readalots thoughts on the matter and his thoughts on matrix now.
nightprowler7
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Autoclaves have a drying function and most are 110v lol, I don’t think it’s that difficult. It’s not 1991 anymore, I don’t think the electric company is telling on anyone with marijuana legal across half the country. You could probably run 20 autoclaves day and night and the electric company wouldn’t care nor notice. The electric bill at my friends private machine shop is about $3200 a month running several CNC machines making hobby parts for jeep enthusiasts. He’s been doing that 10 years and no one’s come to his warehouse.
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QSC: The premium line
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QSC enhanced testing
I have never been against the idea, nor will any source fight more depth testing, my main problem was with the messenger, his spam and his hatred.
It is also ridiculous to see that some sources who paid for one or two enhanced testing tests had advertising in the threads of other sources, other forums, and were considered premium lines.
Based on this logic:
- QSC should have similar or even better advertising.
- QSC must be categorized as premium line.
- QSC is THE best premium line, given that we have done the largest number of enhanced tests, all of which ended up positive and successful.
Well tested by HPLC.
All samples sent tested sterile.
All samples tested are endotoxin free.
All are heavy metals free.
Does this change my opinion on the subject? not really, but it's good to do it once to prove that there's no point in doing it again.
Until proven otherwise, for example sample detection positive for heavy metals, unsterile contaminants, or with endotoxins, the role of the source ends at regular HPLC.
For the pleasure of your eyes, readalot can enjoying a morning handjob:
Code:
HPLC :
https://janoshik.com/tests/54255-Test_e_6Q7KLJVG6211
https://janoshik.com/tests/54256-Test_c_ZXLKF8IDJFEN
https://janoshik.com/tests/54259-Tren_a_QZPM5NGW2MR4
https://janoshik.com/tests/54260-Sustanon_FQHS7B2TXVMF
https://janoshik.com/tests/54557-Primo_200_DF9YNWIXT2I1
https://janoshik.com/tests/54558-Primo_100_SWALP8MXLJH4
https://janoshik.com/tests/54554-NPP_JLA6GCAUEU23
https://janoshik.com/tests/54542-Mast_P_9IIFQWT62NDV
https://janoshik.com/tests/54533-Test_Phenylprop_EXXCHBEN71I2
Sterility tests:
https://janoshik.com/tests/54271-Test_e_ZYEXDKTQH64V
https://janoshik.com/tests/54274-Test_c_KIS45PV3KI27
https://janoshik.com/tests/54278-Tren_a_UKC37ZM62T7G
https://janoshik.com/tests/54281-Sustanon_YYL5M2BJPKTN
https://janoshik.com/tests/54284-Primo_100_V3SEM9X7HNLU
https://janoshik.com/tests/54287-Primo_200_AQGUW8ECYPFS
https://janoshik.com/tests/54290-NPP_YIWUYG8YNT2C
https://janoshik.com/tests/54293-Mast_P_UK56P7FHIB7C
https://janoshik.com/tests/54296-Test_Phenylprop_SLREFXUY131Y
Endotoxin tests:
https://janoshik.com/tests/54273-Test_e_SB1YU9KMJEAP
https://janoshik.com/tests/54275-Test_c_53RHFJU6CIX6
https://janoshik.com/tests/54277-Tren_a_CQ3IA2RXC59N
https://janoshik.com/tests/54280-Sustanon_FIKITKVTUK2G
https://janoshik.com/tests/54283-Primo_100_SPCWQREZGQB2
https://janoshik.com/tests/54286-Primo_200_6LZTT7AV9MKC
https://janoshik.com/tests/54289-NPP_AMW59P7AWYML
https://janoshik.com/tests/54292-Mast_P_FCK3WZ7EDNCB
https://janoshik.com/tests/54295-Test_Phenylprop_I4HZSDRPQNQC
Heavy metals tests:
https://janoshik.com/tests/54272-Test_e_4BIXSLXPMT7I
https://janoshik.com/tests/54276-Test_c_DPAGJ93ITHDB
https://janoshik.com/tests/54279-Tren_a_FTPWE1X5FMER
https://janoshik.com/tests/54282-Sustanon_AJ5ZUX5PUCIW
https://janoshik.com/tests/54285-Primo_100_FXTMDW6V4187
https://janoshik.com/tests/54288-Primo_200_KQJ8GXSBAULU
https://janoshik.com/tests/54291-NPP_JKV5TN65APYS
https://janoshik.com/tests/54294-Mast_P_ILX52FJXTEFD
https://janoshik.com/tests/54297-Test_Phenylprop_WIVA4NN9U4XJHPLC tests:
Sterility tests:
Endotoxin tests:
Heavy metals tests:
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Are you familiar with autoclaves that run off 110v and their size? They are pretty small and that’s why ugls mention in their intros that they have an autoclave for cleaning/sterilizing “tools” and a drying oven for their glassware
The electric company most certainly will tell on a residential property that suddenly starts using an excessive amount of electricity. A well known UGL has told me he’s had law enforcement out at his place a couple of times due to this. In your buddy’s case like you said, he’s been doing it for 10 years so it’s nothing unusual and I’m sure they know he has a shop on the property. I’m also postive when he is shopping for electricity plans he shops for one with this in mind as most plans starts penalizing you and costing you when you exceed a particular amount of usage. Start running compressors and ovens all dat every day in an apartment or residential home and shoot that electricity usage way up and it will raise some eyebrows.
readalot
Member
I am hopeful your attitude has changed. Well done on the testing. Thank you for sharing the results with the MESO community.
readalot
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I was there as it developed in "real" time so to speak.
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I think we need confirmation from matrix that the assumed RTF vials used from the new vender, are in fact not RTF, in order to isolate the cause for contamination. Maybe by filling a hand full of vials at random, and holding them to a light source.
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There's alot of back and forth in there with BBBG and that precipated what appears to be our final falling out. Now he goes around SST stating I'm actually causing harm.
Ironically this is actually how many of us feel about you. Most of us have always said, QSC could rule the world if they would just get a new respectful rep.
Thank you for the testing. You really have given everyone a lot of data to look at and confirmed what most of us expected all along, that it’s unnecessary testing unless one were to get a bad reaction from a vial and want to investigate further. You’ve definitely come a long ways. Your first year here all you did was steal customer’s reports and now you guys are going above and beyond. Bravo.
readalot
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Completely counterproductive comment. Only tests that flag negative results (tests that find an issue) are necessary? We are sent right back to the stone age every time someone says this. Plays right back into the vendors hands.
Bud, every single test report that has been preformed for “enhanced testing” has shown the same results and I’m the one being counterproductive? I’m not saying this was all a waste of time by any means by the way. This has been very informative and gave everyone peace of mind.
readalot
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Well, it's a start. I spent a great deal of time at it in 2023 and 2024 and now we have it demonstrated by the largest vendor on here who was dragged kicking and screaming along the way. But it's not done. It is not a one off. It's up to the membership here to demand it continues. I'm good with what was accomplished and appreciate the help and support of members who cared. Constant surveillance and improvements only come if the members demand it.
You were pretty close. Looks like there was a Door number 4.
However, it's never been a win-win situation for me. It came at great personal cost, but it did get done thanks to a small number of like minded helpful members.
Thanks for your forum @Millard and all your efforts over the years. I hope the momentum here will continue and members will build off of it. As 2024 draws to a close I really appreciate your logic and consistency in trying to make the UGL a better place for AAS users. Happy New Year and I wish everyone a fantastic 2025.
Imagine what would happen if 10% of members here get engaged rather than just 10 members...
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janoshik
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Failure rates for endotoxin and tamc+tymc the way we do it are indeed quite low, roughly 5%.
It's mostly peptides failing, though.
It's mostly peptides failing, though.
