Yeah, ace may be the ticket and thanks for the link so will take a look at what doses and esters might work for me.
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Reflections of using low dose tren <300mg a week(long read)
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Rido
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I really appreciate it. I try to share as much information/experience I have whether its good or bad. I know I am still new to the game but I do have a background that helps me with drug/health safety.yeah, that fucker @Cridi887 has been getting me interested in doing all kinds of things(and not just his wife)
He's made a hell of a ....recomp? or bulk then cut?
Whatever, the only variance is Primo treats me better whereas its Mast for him, anavar is mild on his lipids but wrecks mine.
But he's made some great gains and contributions to the forum.
One thing I always try to keep track of is how I feel mentally from day to day. sometimes I may act like an asshole and that is part of the journey. whether stress from training, life, or drugs.
eery
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I think a lot of people could do well starting at even 75-100mg.
Astartes
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Agree. Sleep is key. Especially from an emotional stability and decision making standpoint. Though….I’ll be honest, if you have to take more than melatonin and Benadryl to sleep due to side effects related to Tren, you may just want to reconsider dosing.
forzafonz
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Never tried tren-E (because I prefer shorter esters and don't mind pinning every day), but I get no sides on Tren-A at 100mg ED. I actually feel extremely well (which scares me lol), as there is not much incentive to stop. My diet, sleep schedule, workout routine is completely dialed in, and also i am far past my early 20s, so maybe it plays a big role.
Deadp007
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100mg Tren A/day & no sides?!?
700mg Tren A/week (I did the maths, lol).
You are a freaking unicorn.......
shartking
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Perhaps he meant 100 per week, microdosed daily. I find 700/week with no sides to be a bit incredulous, not to mention reckless.
forzafonz
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Your math is on point, yes, 700mg Tren A/week. I get it directly from SYN, so the quality should be great as well. I sleep like a baby (i make sure to eat as few carbs as possible 8-9 hours prior to going to bed), so I eat steak, spring mix (for a side), and diet cranberry juice, then drink a protein shake with diet almond milk. However, there was a time i ate subway with a donut 2 hours before going to bed, and i sweated so much, i had to just throw away my bedsheets as there was no way i would sleep at them again lol.
forzafonz
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Unfortunately, 700 per week. Yes, I understand it is reckless, but I balance it with a great diet, a great routine, and no other drugs (i.e. no smoking or alcohol). I think it is really person by person, as somewhat a month ago I saw a post (on reddit) from a guy who just did 700 Tren-A per week for 20 weeks just to lose weight (he was not working out before and it was his first cycle). He also did not get any harsh sides from running that dose.
Rido
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Very reckless. Idk why you would even do that. You cannot justify that doseage at all
How much test did you use with 700mg per week
forzafonz
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1:1. That is just my experience, though. Some people like to run it low. I just buy the pre-mixed solution, which has equal portions of test and tren.
forzafonz
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I understand your concern, but I tried multiple cycles before, which were much more conservative, and I simply did not get the desired effect. I looked through a lot of posts here, on Reddit, and on other forums to see what people of similar stats to me achieve, I could not help but notice that they get more sides but also more benefits from the same cycles as I do. I just think that it is important to share my experience as well, as i think tren is often depicted as a very harsh drug (not just organs, but sleep, mood, and temper), but not everybody will get all the sides. And just to be clear, i did not start with 700mg, i started with 350mg a week.
phenominal34
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I agree with you somewhat but how can you justify taking 800 mg of Mast a week in your next cycle ? What difference is that from 400-600 Mast ?
Like @Mac11wildcat said … 300-400 mast is plenty
Rido
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Mac says he does follow of John Jewett who uses mast as a growth promoter
Even on some of Jewett's discussions he has discussed cycles like 300 test, 150-300 of a 19nor(depending on the goal) and filing the rest up with primo/mast.
Running 200mg of tren felt significantly stronger than 600mg of mast which barely affected my lipids.
Also I don't have issues of snoring on mast. When I did 200mg of tren it literally felt like everything enlarged across my body including the tissue around my airways.
I am still up in the air for doing 800 mast to be honest. But you can't compare 750 tren to 800 mast or even 1200 mast. I personally feel that it is 2-3x stronger than mast.
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Rido
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Discussion starts at 2359. He also discussing dropping tren down and using as high as 1500. This is for a pro level competition prep btw.
Not saying I'm a pro but discussed bringing tren down to a safer range.
Then to relate to the similar situation. Why would we be running something comparable to a pro
Not saying I'm a pro but discussed bringing tren down to a safer range.
Then to relate to the similar situation. Why would we be running something comparable to a pro
I’m by no means advocating higher tren but I’ll say this…. I’ve never handles tren well in my few runs. I’d get extreme jealousy/paranoia on just 200mg. I’d usually run my test the same or maybe a little higher. This last summer I ran tren with high dose primo. 800-1000 primo. Started low on my tren and found myself over 500mg/week. I had a bit of night sweats but that’s literally it. I was in such a good mood and not irritable at all. I ran primo and test 1-1. Idk if it was the primo or the high test that changed this for me, but I felt great and good god did 500 tren do crazy things for me. I probably still won’t go that high again though.
phenominal34
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I completely agree Tren is 4-5 times stronger … my thing I’m saying is, what do you think your getting out of 800 mast that you wouldn’t get out of 400-500 mast ? That’s where I was going with it pal.
Rido
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Got it. Well I was hoping for more anabolism, and to see if I can tolerate it just the same degree without it affecting blood work.
The plan would be try it, if I get too pissy, hair sheds, etc. I could utilize an oral
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