Reflections of using low dose tren <300mg a week(long read)

[Rido]

No issues but I also don't have the gene for it.
If it ends happening I will just try to rock the Kojak.

Good. Make me feel better about running it

 

[Juicyca]

I was wondering who else runs mast this high. Any hair problems? I don't have mpb and haven't had issues on 600

800+mg and no shedding whatsoever but I dont lose hair on any substance so take with a grain of salt.

 

[Wunderpus]

Just about everything I pin goes thru a 25g loading pin and then however many 1cc 29g 1/2” needles as is needed. I stay lean enough for slins basically year round, and so far it’s been far better for me (I get some pretty bad PIP on usually benign compounds and regularly just get “bad” pins but using slins daily has reduced it immensely).

Interesting, even oil-based? I just used a 26g 5/8” for the first time last night and it worked way better than I expected. No PIP and the oil went right through…. To think I’ve been using 23g this whole time…. Haha

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Interesting, even oil-based? I just used a 26g 5/8” for the first time last night and it worked way better than I expected. No PIP and the oil went right through…. To think I’ve been using 23g this whole time…. Haha

Legit everything. It’s been so easy and for me much less stressful. I hate pinning and the smaller needles are just quicker and easier. Small pins on large barrels don’t work well (I’ve tried smaller gages on luer lock 3cc barrels and plunger wouldn’t budge) but small gage on a slin pin works great; carrier hasn’t mattered much at all.

Add some pressure to the barrel so the base indentsskin a bit for a tad extra depth and haven’t had an “leakage” issue yet. I still have the occasional bad pin because my muscle just sucks and throws a tantrum occasionally but. Been pretty good.

 

[Wunderpus]

Ran less than 300 for the prep I went pro with and I’m gonna do all I can to fight the urge to ever use more.

I felt and looked so fresh. Still slept decent. Tren did it’s job. Was as shredded as ever.

The % of people who have any business running tren over 250 would round to zero.

Man, it’s nice to see these sorts of things. Years back, as you know, we were slamming crazy levels of tren. I even used 1g/ week of finaplex… realistically it was a total waste as I felt like I was dying (I kind of was). I’m glad I survived all that shit, as many others did not.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Man, it’s nice to see these sorts of things. Years back, as you know, we were slamming crazy levels of tren. I even used 1g/ week of finaplex… realistically it was a total waste as I felt like I was dying (I kind of was). I’m glad I survived all that shit, as many others did not.

Live and learn. Hope that the live lasts long enough to learn enough lol.

I’ve done the same stupid shit and am jsut relieved i took that shot with my coach’s support and it worked. putting my own goals aside, i really just hope these young dickheads invading the gyms right now listen. But I have a feeling they’re gonna refuse any other path but learning their own lessons.

 

[Wunderpus]

Live and learn. Hope that the live lasts long enough to learn enough lol.

I’ve done the same stupid shit and am jsut relieved i took that shot with my coach’s support and it worked. putting my own goals aside, i really just hope these young dickheads invading the gyms right now listen. But I have a feeling they’re gonna refuse any other path but learning their own lessons.

Man, it’s crazy to think I’m even alive…. I was cooking up tren with cattle pellets in my kitchen, and injecting that shit in my body. Crazy what we can do when we’re young.

 

[Smashshit]

Interesting, even oil-based? I just used a 26g 5/8” for the first time last night and it worked way better than I expected. No PIP and the oil went right through…. To think I’ve been using 23g this whole time…. Haha

I’m not very lean, approximately 18-20% bf and I pin everything with a 27g 1/2” slin pin and it works great. No pip, no oil leaking etc…

 

[AbstractMind]

I’m not very lean, approximately 18-20% bf and I pin everything with a 27g 1/2” slin pin and it works great. No pip, no oil leaking etc…

I love 27s, been using 27g 1 inch for years

 

[MajesticLab]

I am of the opinion that you do not need to dose trenbolone high.
And I tell you this as a seller.

Trenbolone has incredible effect even at low doses (200mg/week).

- nutrient partitioning
- Increase in IGF-1 release and simultaneous effect that the satellite cells of the muscles react more sensitively to IGF-1 and other growth factors.

Along with a bit of test, gh, insulin and mast, this is THE stack.
Due to the low dosage, you can also take it long term.

 

[Wunderpus]

I am of the opinion that you do not need to dose trenbolone high.
And I tell you this as a seller.

Trenbolone has incredible effect even at low doses (200mg/week).

- nutrient partitioning
- Increase in IGF-1 release and simultaneous effect that the satellite cells of the muscles react more sensitively to IGF-1 and other growth factors.

Along with a bit of test, gh, insulin and mast, this is THE stack.
Due to the low dosage, you can also take it long term.

I would be hesitant to suggest tren "long term" to anyone. I have seen, firsthand, negative cognitive effects on users. Not to mention other issues. This is reckless.

 

[Wunderpus]

I am of the opinion that you do not need to dose trenbolone high.
And I tell you this as a seller.

Trenbolone has incredible effect even at low doses (200mg/week).

- nutrient partitioning
- Increase in IGF-1 release and simultaneous effect that the satellite cells of the muscles react more sensitively to IGF-1 and other growth factors.

Along with a bit of test, gh, insulin and mast, this is THE stack.
Due to the low dosage, you can also take it long term.

Oh, you're a source... Got it. Makes more sense now.

 

[MajesticLab]

Oh, you're a source... Got it. Makes more sense now.

Please don't get me wrong.
Yes, tren causes cognitive damage and much more.

Nevertheless, it is "healthier" to take 200mg Tren for 12-16 weeks than e.g. 700mg Tren for 8 weeks.

Whereas most who take tren high dose still take it for almost the whole year. And I definitely do not recommend that.

 

[narta]

Please don't get me wrong.
Yes, tren causes cognitive damage and much more.

Nevertheless, it is "healthier" to take 200mg Tren for 12-16 weeks than e.g. 700mg Tren for 8 weeks.

Whereas most who take tren high dose still take it for almost the whole year. And I definitely do not recommend that.

But it's even more healthier (if we can call it that) to take 200mg/week for 8 weeks or even 150mg. Enough for every non competing and making money from it bodybuilder

 

[MajesticLab]

But it's even more healthier (if we can call it that) to take 200mg/week for 8 weeks or even 150mg. Enough for every non competing and making money from it bodybuilder

I agree with you 100%.
It's just that if athletes want to take it for a long time, they have no added value of 500mg compared to e.g. 200mg.

I really do not recommend taking trenbolone in long term.
But if someone thinks he has to take trenbolone for months then please take low doses.

 

[MindlessWork]

Now this is a great read and to me this sounds ideal even for older guys who are afraid to even touch a drop of tren. I myself been feeling wishy washy about tren for some time, and looks like low dose is the way to go and keeping sides to a minimum while getting to enjoy its benefits.

Thanks for this little anecdote sharing your experience @Cridi887

 

[MindlessWork]

My experience has been similar with Tren... these days when I use it I run even lower (my limit for sides seems to be roughly ~200mg/week) with much larger amounts of Masteron and only my TRT dose of Test.

Anything higher than that level of Tren and I experience pretty much all of your sides along with truly fucked up night sweat levels.

Yeah I been reading the horror stories and that's why I've kind of shied away from tren, especially that I am older.

 

[Deadp007]

Yeah I been reading the horror stories and that's why I've kind of shied away from tren, especially that I am older.

yeah, that fucker @Cridi887 has been getting me interested in doing all kinds of things (and not just his wife)
He's made a hell of a ....recomp? or bulk then cut?
Whatever, the only variance is Primo treats me better whereas its Mast for him, anavar is mild on his lipids but wrecks mine.
But he's made some great gains and contributions to the forum.

 

[MindlessWork]

yeah, that fucker @Cridi887 has been getting me interested in doing all kinds of things (and not just his wife)
He's made a hell of a ....recomp? or bulk then cut?
Whatever, the only variance is Primo treats me better whereas its Mast for him, anavar is mild on his lipids but wrecks mine.
But he's made some great gains and contributions to the forum.

Yes everyone's different and now I plan to try out some tren ace my next cycle as I have 1 vial of it. If I respond well to it then yes will then try E.

 

[Deadp007]

Yes everyone's different and now I plan to try out some tren ace my next cycle as I have 1 vial of it. If I respond well to it then yes will then try E.

I'm still stand-offish with tren E, just like the idea of tren A, if one gets too froggy on the dose then they can just stop for a few days and start with a lower dose.
With tren E it's going to be a longer time you're in a bad place.
But this is just a personal bias thing & not applicable to all.
Steroid Calculator is great for playing around with doses & esters.