Reflections of using low dose tren <300mg a week(long read)

[Killarie]

Right! I'm armchairing here but i am interested in a low to moderate tren run & just from various readings I was heavily biased towards acetate. Glad you shared your thoughts with the forum.

I was kinda surprised @Cridi887 went with the enanthate version.

I have used both esters and hands down 200mg of Tren E and 100mg of Test was better in every way. I didn’t have bad mental sides on E but Ace made me a prick with a short fuse. I had to rub one out as many as 6 times a day . It was to the point where a sorry puff of dust was all that came out. I was able to stay on the E for 14 weeks and could have gone more. Ace on the other hand was time to pull the plug after three weeks. I am getting ready to run 200-350 week of Tren E here next week. Looking forward to finding something “hot” in anything that is female and breathing. Good times.

 

[NCBRED74]

Starting with cliffs... TLDR. Based off my recent experience.
-75-225mg of tren can be very beneficial for the sake of harm reduction
-Watch for nasty sides
-Significant visual/strength changes in the first week.
-Can use other anabolics for anabolism than relying solely on tren.
-Have plenty of ancillaries. Antihypertensive, sleep aids.




So I wanted to create this discussion because I bailed on deca halfway through the cycle and used tren starting at 250mg a week dropping down to 75mg a week. I was on it for about 9 weeks.
I front loaded Tren E because I bailed on deca and to play catch up.


So for the sake of harm reduction I think adding it at 75-225mg/week can have phenomenal changes for most users. Go figure... This is 1-3 amps.of parabolan. What I guess alot of people said they ran back in the day.

The closest thing I could compare this to was mastx5(so far). I for hell couldn't compare this to anything else mg for mg.


I borderline had harsh mental effects, negative thoughts. I would went nuts if I ran it at 300. I felt like I was short with people overall.

Sometimes I did have to pull myself away from situations to take a breather and relax. -Now even a week in, I noticed so many visual changes.
Strength changes within days.
Enlargement if all of my muscles. My calves felt enormous.
I started snoring because my neck became even more enlarged. I felt like a tank everywhere I went. Big and slow.

Came into the gym still feeling amazing and hyperfocused. But all of this extra weight was uncomfortable for me.

I did question if I could handle this longer at a low dose. High dose short cycle vs lower dose long cycle.

I felt the wear and tear on me. Just prolonged suffering instead of getting in and out. I haven't used tren hex but when I do, I plan to run it at 150 a week for 10 weeks. I do notice I have bigger issues with a serum spikes (day of injections or the day after) increased anger/aggression with none of the increases benefit. I also didn't notice much change at 150mg/wk from 250mg/wk.

My HDL was cut in half within weeks and I had elevated LFTs for once.

I eventually dropped tren to 75mg which I eventually swapped to mast cutting cruise.

I don't notice any deceleration from moving from tren to mast.

It did reduce the sensation of my dick so I use to do a death grip on it try to cum.

I had perverse thoughts but I was too wrapped up in myself to want to bang everyone out there.

The lack of sleep didn't help. Even at 75mg a week it felt worse at this point cause it was going for so long.

I guess my biggest takeaway is this is a super powerful substance and I feel like too many people use it at way too high of a dose. I think everyone agrees that it is the harshest one to use. There is no reason for any non competitor to run it. But we all know people are going to try It/use it.




Too many people are using this for forced recomp. Especially people who lack so much muscle mass. There are plenty of other PEDs that can help with it instead.

Have a sleep aid. Even Ambien or lunesta 3x a week may help with sleeping on this.(I haven't used lunesta yet). I know some people mentioned Seroquel in the past


If anyone else has experience on sub 300mg/wk it would be nice to post it.

Very interested in giving this a shot. Great Info.

 

[Rido]

Very interested in giving this a shot. Great Info.

I would say I would be cautious of a new user of using it still.

The aggression, lack of sleep, snoring, the way it can fuck your relationship among the ones you love are concerns.

 

[NCBRED74]

I would say I would be cautious of a new user of using it still.

The aggression, lack of sleep, snoring, the way it can fuck your relationship among the ones you love are concerns.

I hear you. Thanks for the info. I have heard it can make you feel off mentally or depressed.

 

[Rido]

I hear you. Thanks for the info. I have heard it can make you feel off mentally or depressed.

Nandrolone and tren both have for me.

Npp makes me feel goofy, I kind of like it. But ask makes me very emotional and sensitive.

Tren makes me a little aggressive, insomnia, cant sleep


Both make me sweat like shit when I lift. Night sweats on both

 

[Deadp007]

Nandrolone and tren both have for me.

Npp makes me feel goofy, I kind of like it. But ask makes me very emotional and sensitive.

Tren makes me a little aggressive, insomnia, cant sleep


Both make me sweat like shit when I lift. Night sweats on both

At what mg do you start to get these sides.
Even with low dosing I wonder if after X amount of time if one can get a cumulative effect?

 

[Rido]

At what mg do you start to get these sides.
Even with low dosing I wonder if after X amount of time if one can get a cumulative effect?

Irritability especially in injection days at 250. started snoring

150-200 was still a little irritable. Everything was enlarged. Still snoring.

But 75-150 felt the same. Without the snoring.


In hind sight I wonder if irritability was training heavily and lack of sleep. Cause I got it on mast too.

But even on 75mg I noticed cosmetic effects.

 

[NCBRED74]

Nandrolone and tren both have for me.

Npp makes me feel goofy, I kind of like it. But ask makes me very emotional and sensitive.

Tren makes me a little aggressive, insomnia, cant sleep


Both make me sweat like shit when I lift. Night sweats on both

did you mean "mast" instead of "ask?" Ever try primo?

 

[Rido]

did you mean "mast" instead of "ask?" Ever try primo?

actually meant NPP. it was an autocorrect.

primo broke my dick, e2 wasnt crashed either. its a great drug, just doesnt pair well with me. I also couldnt increase e2 on it at all.

I wonder if I used ment with it..

 

[kosp]

actually meant NPP. it was an autocorrect.

primo broke my dick, e2 wasnt crashed either. its a great drug, just doesnt pair well with me. I also couldnt increase e2 on it at all.

I wonder if I used ment with it..

Mast is doing similar to me, weaker libido than natty, but fuck it, it's 4 more weeks, I like the gains.

 

[NCBRED74]

did you mean "mast" instead of "ask?" Ever try primo?

got it.

 

[GuerillaPete]

actually meant NPP. it was an autocorrect.

primo broke my dick, e2 wasnt crashed either. its a great drug, just doesnt pair well with me. I also couldnt increase e2 on it at all.

I wonder if I used ment with it..

Or dbol like Arnold did ….

 

[kosp]

actually meant NPP. it was an autocorrect.

primo broke my dick, e2 wasnt crashed either. its a great drug, just doesnt pair well with me. I also couldnt increase e2 on it at all.

I wonder if I used ment with it..

Couldn't you increase E2 even upping testosterone dose?

 

[Rido]

Couldn't you increase E2 even upping testosterone dose?

Barely. Little to nothing. I had a shit load of labs too

 

[kosp]

Barely. Little to nothing. I had a shit load of labs too

I see, it sucks so much to have 0 libido.

I tried upping the test this week, so it makes a ratio of 500test/400mast

If that does not work, I would know for the future that Mast isn't for me.

 

[flexmuscle40]

I think my fear is the tren serum spikes creates my irritability more than anything else. My wife is the main one would may take a hit.

I also don't like pinning everyday

Hey bro

I totally agree with you, When I was using 300 plus mgs of Tren Ace a week, My Wife def wanna to punch me in the face lol

 

[akrmbdnt]

I have used both esters and hands down 200mg of Tren E and 100mg of Test was better in every way. I didn’t have bad mental sides on E but Ace made me a prick with a short fuse. I had to rub one out as many as 6 times a day . It was to the point where a sorry puff of dust was all that came out. I was able to stay on the E for 14 weeks and could have gone more. Ace on the other hand was time to pull the plug after three weeks. I am getting ready to run 200-350 week of Tren E here next week. Looking forward to finding something “hot” in anything that is female and breathing. Good times.

When comparing the positive effect on Tren E vs Tren A, do you notice any difference? Obviously Tren E takes longer time to reach stable blood level.

 

[Deadp007]

Ok

I have used both esters and hands down 200mg of Tren E and 100mg of Test was better in every way. I didn’t have bad mental sides on E but Ace made me a prick with a short fuse. I had to rub one out as many as 6 times a day . It was to the point where a sorry puff of dust was all that came out. I was able to stay on the E for 14 weeks and could have gone more. Ace on the other hand was time to pull the plug after three weeks. I am getting ready to run 200-350 week of Tren E here next week. Looking forward to finding something “hot” in anything that is female and breathing. Good times.

Ok... I'm willing to give E a go now...geez I gotta stay off this forum.
But what about Parabolan aka Tren Hex & even less sides?

 

[Rido]

Ok

Ok... I'm willing to give E a go now...geez I gotta stay off this forum.
But what about Parabolan aka Tren Hex & even less sides?

I would think it's less of the tren serum spike. It's more stable.(less hormonal fluctuations)

 

[Deskoze38192]

I’m currently running a blast with lower doses than I normally would and lowish Tren and very happy with the results
Test 420
Tren 140
Deca 105 (joint relief)
Goal is strength gains and size
Eating in a surplus (bulking)
Actually started this blast at a higher dose of Tren and struggled with appetite, sleep, night sweats, fatigue and bad headaches
Dropped the dose of Tren to 140 at week 4 and everything improved
Have run Tren before at higher doses and I think this run at a lower dose is actually more effective for my goals
Still struggling with running out of breath when squatting heavy for sets of 20 and looking like I just ran a marathon lol