Reliability of lab tests (before buying)

[Hazelnut]

For quite some time I’m thinking about the following issue:

You see some good lab results posted from the product you want to buy.
The analysis was done lets say within the last 2 months.
It’s a big source here on Meso, with lots of traffic in the thread and until now (as far as you have seen) everyone has been satisfied.

Now you buy the product.

Would you have it analyzed again?

Lets asume we trust the report, isn’t there the risk that we get different gear than the published reports tell us?
It’s not about saving some cash for the analysis, I’m just honestly curious.

Thanks!

 

[MadBret]

@Hazelnut
There is always some risk involved. If the source has been on point, you can use your best judgement on if you feel comfortable. Being a lady, it may be worth the time and effort for your own piece of mind to have it tested.

Compared to the old days, I believe you have a lot better chances of getting what is on the label. Before testing was widely available, there was more shit labs that would label dbol as anavar etc to make a bit more cash but now days, with testing being much more prevalent, the respectable sources seem to do a pretty good job.

 

[Hazelnut]

@MadBret Thanks for your thoughts!

 

[muscletrain]

@MadBret Thanks for your thoughts!

100% depends on the lab imo, in Canada there are 3 labs that have been around for probably 10 years or so that I would have zero issue just purchasing and believing what the label says. Also with the advent of more available HPLC testing I don't think any labs that want to stick around are trying to pass off fake Var or Primo anymore.

 

[Hazelnut]

100% depends on the lab imo, in Canada there are 3 labs that have been around for probably 10 years or so that I would have zero issue just purchasing and believing what the label says. Also with the advent of more available HPLC testing I don't think any labs that want to stick around are trying to pass off fake Var or Primo anymore.

This was also one of my thoughts. They could sell some fake gear but would have a long term damage and only short term profit.
Nevertheless I think this happens a lot and those scammers just open a new page to sell their stuff.

 

[muscletrain]

This was also one of my thoughts. They could sell some fake gear but would have a long term damage and only short term profit.
Nevertheless I think this happens a lot and those scammers just open a new page to sell their stuff.

Potentially it seems like there is a lot more bathtub fly by night labs that pop up in the US than up here. We pretty much have a pick of a few super labs and then some quality smaller ones. Off the top of my head:

Innovagen/Pareto/SYN

 

[Villain]

For quite some time I’m thinking about the following issue:

You see some good lab results posted from the product you want to buy.
The analysis was done lets say within the last 2 months.
It’s a big source here on Meso, with lots of traffic in the thread and until now (as far as you have seen) everyone has been satisfied.

Now you buy the product.

Would you have it analyzed again?

Lets asume we trust the report, isn’t there the risk that we get different gear than the published reports tell us?
It’s not about saving some cash for the analysis, I’m just honestly curious.

Thanks!

I presume you’re referring to Pcom. If you can see from the posted tests the batch number, that would be a good place to start and hope you get stuff from that same batch. However, I was told you can’t order specific batches, and a UGL is only as good as their last batch. Best advice is to have it tested for your own safety and peace of mind.

 

[Hazelnut]

There was no batch number on the report...
I know it might sound wired, but when I order more packages, it's also not guaranteed, that's all the same, right? (I'm not paranoic though…)

Thanks!

 

[Villain]

There was no batch number on the report...
I know it might sound wired, but when I order more packages, it's also not guaranteed, that's all the same, right? (I'm not paranoic though…)

Thanks!

That is correct and it’s also true that they may send you stuff beyond the printed expiration date.

 

[RunTrenFckTens]

Remember they are drug dealers. They don't give a fuck about you or your health. It's the power of the dollar, the cash, the cash! Better to cry now and smile later. Than smile now and cry later. Send for testing for your own peace of mind. If you are in states you are fortunate to have weights and measures and anabolic labs for HPLC. You don't have to send across the world to Janoshit.

 

[Villain]

Remember they are drug dealers. They don't give a fuck about you or your health. It's the power of the dollar, the cash, the cash! Better to cry now and smile later. Than smile now and cry later. Send for testing for your own peace of mind. If you are in states you are fortunate to have weights and measures and anabolic labs for HPLC. You don't have to send across the world to Janoshit.

Weights & Measures is gone unfortunately. Anabolic Labs doesn’t do actual testing - they buy anonymously and send to SIMEC for testing, so actually we are left with only Jano and Lab4Tox

 

[Sp2.0]

Remember they are drug dealers. They don't give a fuck about you or your health. It's the power of the dollar, the cash, the cash! Better to cry now and smile later. Than smile now and cry later. Send for testing for your own peace of mind. If you are in states you are fortunate to have weights and measures and anabolic labs for HPLC. You don't have to send across the world to Janoshit.

You aren't able to send to anabolic lab. Is weights and measures still around ? Even in the states are options are international that I know of. Lab4tox and I think there's 1 other. Its def worth sending it off especially if its for a woman.

 

[Villain]

You aren't able to send to anabolic lab. Is weights and measures still around ? Even in the states are options are international that I know of. Lab4tox and I think there's 1 other

Chemtox is the other

 

[RunTrenFckTens]

Sorry guys I am Canadian. I wasn't sure how it worked down there. I thought weights and measures was around still. They only take cash though.

 

[RunTrenFckTens]

Is there not one in Switzerland? I would never send to Janoshit.

 

[Villain]

Is there not one in Switzerland? I would never send to Janoshit.

That’s SIMEC

 

[Basedout]

I have thought many times that alot of the domestic labs are all the same group of guys. It always seems the same guys dick ride a source til it implodes then another lab comes along its always the same group of guys chasing off members that make complaints and sticking up for the source. Though I have no evidence to prove my accusations lol Im sure I could get it but I dont wanna spend weeks piecing together posts from members and former members or whatever lol its just what I have felt I have witnessed after being here for a bit. The testing guys could all be in cahoots with the labs too. Its all 1 big conspiracy. I will say that I usually go with sources that arent on the first page of the underground those tend to be the ones that end up with trouble. A few good sources here that arent steadily on the first page.

 

[muscletrain]

I have thought many times that alot of the domestic labs are all the same group of guys. It always seems the same guys dick ride a source til it implodes then another lab comes along its always the same group of guys chasing off members that make complaints and sticking up for the source. Though I have no evidence to prove my accusations lol Im sure I could get it but I dont wanna spend weeks piecing together posts from members and former members or whatever lol its just what I have felt I have witnessed after being here for a bit. The testing guys could all be in cahoots with the labs too. Its all 1 big conspiracy. I will say that I usually go with sources that arent on the first page of the underground those tend to be the ones that end up with trouble. A few good sources here that arent steadily on the first page.

I think Occam's razor applies here it's more like tons of idiots think they can source and amateur hour retards get ran off for garbage setups. Now the Canadian boards whoo boy shilltown for sure.

 

[RunTrenFckTens]

I think Occam's razor applies here it's more like tons of idiots think they can source and amateur hour retards get ran off for garbage setups. Now the Canadian boards whoo boy shilltown for sure.

I literally just read about Occam's razor in my psychology class haha weird

 

[Hazelnut]

Weights & Measures is gone unfortunately. Anabolic Labs doesn’t do actual testing - they buy anonymously and send to SIMEC for testing, so actually we are left with only Jano and Lab4Tox

I actually got in contact with SIMEC some weeks ago regarding their price etc. It was quite high (290 €) and they don't do blind Analysis, they only test for the amount of the indicated substance.

So this doesn't help me at all. Then I know if I have Var, but not if there's something else in it....