right way to come off 10 months of b&c?

[Masara]

What would be the proper way to come off of 10 months of blast and cruise?

Will a significant muscle loss be caused by this stop?

 

[Ninjaturtle2020]

I would have thought about this 12 months ago..

Will you lose significant muscle? Depends on if you can hold the workout intensity. My lean body mass certainly went down off cycle.

 

[Gixjon22]

I feel like i need to ask you if you even know what blasting and cruising is. Because you do two things and two things only. You blast. You cruise. Repeat. Hopefully at equal intervals.

 

[Forthewin1123]

Yea this sounds like a 10 month cycle.. which is usually harder to pct then a 12 to 20 wk cycle.
I'm not the guy to give a pct protocol..
There are some threads where guys came off 2-5 year b and c.. search for those.. I would take a similar approach personally.. or not come off test at all if it made sense for my specific life style and goals

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Start basic. Blast 2500-5000 ius hcg after your last pin aka while your gear leaves your body. ( I do 2-3 weeks hcg and 1 week off before starting my serms) note this also depends on the drugs and ester you were on…

Than 50 mg clomid and 25 nolva for 4-5 weeks depending how long I can tolerate. I drop my clomid to half around 2.5-3 weeks in.

did a 12 week NPP cycle and came back to my natty levels of 750+.

10 months though? Shit who knows.

 

[Masara]

Start basic. Blast 2500-5000 ius hcg after your last pin aka while your gear leaves your body. ( I do 2-3 weeks hcg and 1 week off before starting my serms) note this also depends on the drugs and ester you were on…

Than 50 mg clomid and 25 nolva for 4-5 weeks depending how long I can tolerate. I drop my clomid to half around 2.5-3 weeks in.

did a 12 week NPP cycle and came back to my natty levels of 750+.

10 months though? Shit who knows.

Is a 1 year b&c so uncommon?
I am not planning on using gear my whole life..

 

[Turbo charged]

10 months ur test levels will never go back to normal or were u were. They will come back but not were they were. Blast hcgfor 3 months. If not stay on 100 mg test to keep u normal

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Is a 1 year b&c so uncommon?
I am not planning on using gear my whole life..

No… it’s not….

if you planned on not using gear your whole lids you shouldn’t of touched it.
Follow a recovery protocol and see what happens.

 

[steckdose0]

once i b&c for 2 and a half years and did an extensive PCT and it went something like this: 1 week after my last shot of test i started doing 500iu HCG a day for 3 weeks, then 2mg of GNRH in one shot, then 100mg clomid + 20mg nolva for a week, 50mg clomid + 20mg nolva for 2 weeks, and 25mg clomid + 10mg nolva for another 3 weeks. look out for e2 sides and keep aromasin on hand at all times.

i got bloods before, during, and after. around 2 months into this PCT protocol on 50mg clomid my test was at 696ng/dl, e2 was 67 (stopped taking AI), FSH & LH were both around 10 or 9. but that's not an indicator because i still wasn't fully natural.

about 6-7 weeks later when i was fully off everything for a few weeks i got bloods again. test was 503ng/dl (first thing in the morning) and e2 was around 40. didn't get my FSH and LH checked.

those 4 months sucked, especially the first 2. hormones running wild + the side effects of clomid are awful. 4 shitty months only to recover sub par test levels.

if i scored 500 first thing in the morning that means that i fluctuate between 450-500 throughout the day/week. i wasn't about to be 22 years old running around with levels like that so i decided that same day to get back on and stay on for the rest of my life.

 

[Masara]

once i b&c for 2 and a half years and did an extensive PCT and it went something like this: 1 week after my last shot of test i started doing 500iu HCG a day for 3 weeks, then 2mg of GNRH in one shot, then 100mg clomid + 20mg nolva for a week, 50mg clomid + 20mg nolva for 2 weeks, and 25mg clomid + 10mg nolva for another 3 weeks. look out for e2 sides and keep aromasin on hand at all times.

i got bloods before, during, and after. around 2 months into this PCT protocol on 50mg clomid my test was at 696ng/dl, e2 was 67 (stopped taking AI), FSH & LH were both around 10 or 9. but that's not an indicator because i still wasn't fully natural.

about 6-7 weeks later when i was fully off everything for a few weeks i got bloods again. test was 503ng/dl (first thing in the morning) and e2 was around 40. didn't get my FSH and LH checked.

those 4 months sucked, especially the first 2. hormones running wild + the side effects of clomid are awful. 4 shitty months only to recover sub par test levels.

if i scored 500 first thing in the morning that means that i fluctuate between 450-500 throughout the day/week. i wasn't about to be 22 years old running around with levels like that so i decided that same day to get back on and stay on for the rest of my life.

But if you waited longer would have your test, e2, ... returned to normal. There are studies showing that it's very rare that your test lvl don't come back to normal. You just have to wait sometimes very long (~1 year, ..)

 

[steckdose0]

But if you waited longer would have your test, e2, ... returned to normal. There are studies showing that it's very rare that your test lvl don't come back to normal. You just have to wait sometimes very long (~1 year, ..)

yeah i don't doubt that it would have gone up.. but by how much? probably not by much. maybe 20-30pts. either way, i don't care for being natural.

 

[Theworm]

Just reading those pct protocols gives me depression and malaise.

So many things wrong with the OP, never never go on blast and cruise if you aren’t planning on staying on forever. In fact, I’d say to most beginners, don’t ever touch hormones if you aren’t willing to accept your levels will likely be lower and need supplementation for the rest of your life.

As for a year of PCT, good luck with that, I’d rather pour lemonade over a 1000 papercuts on a daily basis.

With that said, my only success was with lupron, but go read the restarts in the other forums. Some do it, but if you ever plan to cycle again, why go through that misery?

 

[TheSeptemberKnight]

once i b&c for 2 and a half years and did an extensive PCT and it went something like this: 1 week after my last shot of test i started doing 500iu HCG a day for 3 weeks, then 2mg of GNRH in one shot, then 100mg clomid + 20mg nolva for a week, 50mg clomid + 20mg nolva for 2 weeks, and 25mg clomid + 10mg nolva for another 3 weeks. look out for e2 sides and keep aromasin on hand at all times.

i got bloods before, during, and after. around 2 months into this PCT protocol on 50mg clomid my test was at 696ng/dl, e2 was 67 (stopped taking AI), FSH & LH were both around 10 or 9. but that's not an indicator because i still wasn't fully natural.

about 6-7 weeks later when i was fully off everything for a few weeks i got bloods again. test was 503ng/dl (first thing in the morning) and e2 was around 40. didn't get my FSH and LH checked.

those 4 months sucked, especially the first 2. hormones running wild + the side effects of clomid are awful. 4 shitty months only to recover sub par test levels.

if i scored 500 first thing in the morning that means that i fluctuate between 450-500 throughout the day/week. i wasn't about to be 22 years old running around with levels like that so i decided that same day to get back on and stay on for the rest of my life.

how'd you end up dealing with fertility?

 

[steckdose0]

how'd you end up dealing with fertility?

i'd imagine im not fertile at this moment which is why i have 0 dollars amount owed in child support. male fertility is exponentially more malleable than female fertility. i'm not worried at all.