Yes, but his legs weren't THAT small, Bob.
Manwhore- Yes, I guess I do have relatively high standards. It's not that I expect everyone to compete, I just don't understand why a guy who is far from what he could achieve naturally would want to juice.
In most cases, their training is horrendous(look at a lot of the leg routines, or lack thereof) and their diets are even worse. "I'm a hardgainer. I've been lifting for 2 years and I've been 175lbs the whole time." That right there says they don't eat enough to grow. If you don't gain a MINIMUM of 1lb/month, then you are simply not eating enough to sustain any growth. End of story. If you're eating enough, you'll at least get fatter.
Furthermore, it's because of these guys that juice gets the reputation that it does. Because of their poor training and nutrition, they have never made any gains. They add in some AAS, which can make up for these factors when at their stage of development, and BAM they gain 15lbs.
They never made any gains before juice. Obviously, juice is "muscle in a bottle." Thus, the 240lb ripped up monster at the gym who writes down everything he eats, doesn't party, has read multiple texts on how to train, etc. is simply that big because he does more juice. If they gained 15lbs off of 500mg test/wk, then that guy, who is 60lbs heavier, must be using 2 grams or more a week.
That's total bullshit and I hate it. I hear it all the time. I try and help guys out when I hear their horseshit 300mg/deca/wk cycles and they tell me that, since their small, they don't need as much as me. This is partially true, but I'm only running 500mg test/wk.
Look at Hogg. I'm sure he's the butt of these accusations. Last time he posted his cycle, it was something like 300mg test/wk, 300mg deca/wk, 300mg EQ/wk and he's one of those 230lb monsters.
Clearly, juice, and lots of it, is not the answer to most people's trainig woes.