Sampei Brewing Journey

[Sampei]

Congrats mate! You were very diligent with the project and I am sure it will be a success.

Not the primo though. That fucker will hurt.

Thanks Narta, everything wouldn't have been possible especially without you! You have helped me a million times and had the patience to keep answering my never ending questions and squash my doubts.

Dunno about the primo, I just woke up, 9 hours after injection for now ZERO pip, only thing I can feel is if I press on the injection site is slightly sore but I mean almost not even noticeable, so unless I have fucked up the brewing and it's not 300mg or unless the PIP will appear in the next 48 hours (very very possible), maybe my body just love primo

 

[Sampei]

Primo 200 gives me moderate PIP if injected alone. Generally I mix it with test or test and mast and then I only get mild PIP maybe 1/3 injections. Primo is the only injectable I've tried that gives me PIP. I don't really care though, not a big deal. Just saying it's a real thing.

I'm injecting 3ml a week of primo 200 at the moment, 1.5ml X2 alone not mixed with anything, QSC primo (refiltered) and pip is 0 unless I botch the injection but that is not related to the primo.

 

[Sampei]

I have heard otherwise. Heavy pip associated with 200 for some people

It's personal, I don't get pip with primo 200, tested primo 200 so no fake shit.

The only pip I get is when I fuck up the injection but that happens with any substance, sometime I just get pip due to bad technique or just randomness.

I have injected primo 200 alone in my quad/VG/glute/delt. On average zero pip

 

[narta]

Thanks Narta, everything wouldn't have been possible especially without you! You have helped me a million times and had the patience to keep answering my never ending questions and squash my doubts.

Dunno about the primo, I just woke up, 9 hours after injection for now ZERO pip, so unless I have fucked up the brewing and it's not 300mg or unless the PIP will appear in the next 48 hours (very very possible), maybe my body just love primo

I just showed you the way mate, you are the one that walked it!

As for the primo, you either have low sensitivity (can happen), you like pain (can happen), or you found some special sauce ratio

 

[Sampei]

I just showed you the way mate, you are the one that walked it!

As for the primo, you either have low sensitivity (can happen), you like pain (can happen), or you found some special sauce ratio

I don't like pain, maybe low sensitivity? The sauce is not special at all. I mean it's standard recipe. Unless this MCT oil is magic (and it's not).

But again it can go crazy the PIP after 24/48hrs (happened to me) so we will see at the end of the day if it stays like this or it gets worse.

Plus I gotta try it on other injection side, next one will be delts. Glute is too easy to cover the PIP at least for me.

VG I almost never get pip ever so I didn't even try to inject there as it would not make a good test.

 

[Sampei]

Funny I have a slight soreness on the test D 500 injection glute but still zero with the primo lol

The soreness is still not uncomfortable or anything, I just can tell that I pinned yesterday night in that spot. That's it.

Like a reminder. If that's the max pip I get from these high concentration gear it will be game on.

Another super easy way to have zero PIP is to add EQ in the syringe so with any blast that has EQ in it you can have zero pip just splitting the EQ on all the pins you do. At least that's what I gathered from my past experiences.

 

[dasking]

I'm injecting 3ml a week of primo 200 at the moment, 1.5ml X2 alone not mixed with anything, QSC primo (refiltered) and pip is 0 unless I botch the injection but that is not related to the primo.

same

 

[dasking]

Funny I have a slight soreness on the test D 500 injection glute but still zero with the primo lol

The soreness is still not uncomfortable or anything, I just can tell that I pinned yesterday night in that spot. That's it.

Like a reminder. If that's the max pip I get from these high concentration gear it will be game on.

Another super easy way to have zero PIP is to add EQ in the syringe so with any blast that has EQ in it you can have zero pip just splitting the EQ on all the pins you do. At least that's what I gathered from my past experiences.

interesting, ive never been too excited about EQ until just now.

 

[Sampei]

interesting, ive never been too excited about EQ until just now.

EQ is amazing in general, I really like it, unless you get bad sides from it, some ppl do.

But yeah EQ is painless 100% I never had not even once the hint of a PIP with EQ and so it dilute the other substance that you mix with EQ and it really makes everything pipless.

Really great if you are shooting high concentration gear to mix it together in case one is worried of PIP.

 

[bysandtrys]

Funny I have a slight soreness on the test D 500 injection glute but still zero with the primo lol

The soreness is still not uncomfortable or anything, I just can tell that I pinned yesterday night in that spot. That's it.

Like a reminder. If that's the max pip I get from these high concentration gear it will be game on.

Another super easy way to have zero PIP is to add EQ in the syringe so with any blast that has EQ in it you can have zero pip just splitting the EQ on all the pins you do. At least that's what I gathered from my past experiences.

What concentration of EQ do you use?
I also love EQ and have been adding an extra bit to reduce PIP as well

 

[Dirthand]

Thanks Narta, everything wouldn't have been possible especially without you! You have helped me a million times and had the patience to keep answering my never ending questions and squash my doubts.

Dudr is awsome like that. Was the same way with me!!!!

 

[Sampei]

What concentration of EQ do you use?
I also love EQ and have been adding an extra bit to reduce PIP as well

500mg all day long

 

[nightprowler7]

It’s very interesting how pip seems to affect people differently.

250mg/ml test e would cripple me at 1.5-2ml per shot.

But others have no issue with test e 500mg/ml

Primo same thing, sometimes they get pip…sometimes not


I’ve only personally ever got pip from test e. High mg mast p, tren a, primo, never gave me pip

 

[Sampei]

It’s very interesting how pip seems to affect people differently.

250mg/ml test e would cripple me at 1.5-2ml per shot.

But others have no issue with test e 500mg/ml

Primo same thing, sometimes they get pip…sometimes not


I’ve only personally ever got pip from test e. High mg mast p, tren a, primo, never gave me pip

Yeah it's very subjective!

Small update: 12h after injection, primo site is a bit sore but nothing major.

Same level as the Test D 500mg tho.

Slightly annoying but still very doable.

 

[dasking]

EQ is amazing in general, I really like it, unless you get bad sides from it, some ppl do.

But yeah EQ is painless 100% I never had not even once the hint of a PIP with EQ and so it dilute the other substance that you mix with EQ and it really makes everything pipless.

Really great if you are shooting high concentration gear to mix it together in case one is worried of PIP.

is that why I see some high concentration mixes have EQ mixed in? For example HYB I feel like I was just looking at option I've never seen elsewhere.

 

[Sampei]

is that why I see some high concentration mixes have EQ mixed in? For example HYB I feel like I was just looking at option I've never seen elsewhere.

Could it be yes. EQ is loved a lot as well in the last few years. More and more ppl I know use it for blast in general, when I started 10 years ago more or less it was considered almost a cosmetic drug now it's a staple in many big guy cycles.

 

[narta]

10 years ago more or less it was considered almost a cosmetic drug now it's a staple in many big guy cycles.

After another decades, guys will love apples, rides and will neigh from times to times

 

[dasking]

Could it be yes. EQ is loved a lot as well in the last few years. More and more ppl I know use it for blast in general, when I started 10 years ago more or less it was considered almost a cosmetic drug now it's a staple in many big guy cycles.

I may have some bias from gym bro lore over the years I only played with low dose and it hit me with anxiety and I moved on. Once I started getting more technical about my stacks I just haven't found a reason for EQ when I have Primo and mast on hand for Estrogen manipulation. I may have to insert some Eq into my upcoming stack.

 

[Sampei]

Update on the PIP of primo 300 and test D 500.

Primo: yeah i know it's there, on a scale from 1 to 10 I'll call it 4. It's annoying but not obnoxious. I can feel it mostly only if I touch the part or something touch it directly. Walking is unaffected, I feel good. Is it worth it? I don't know.

I mean I like the idea of pipless injection on the other hand I like the idea of reducing the total ML of weekly injection. 4ml of primo Vs 3ml of primo it's quite a nice reduction especially if you sums it up with the other volume of oils that are still injected with it.

Test D 500: I would say almost pipless but no 100% from 1 to 10 I'll call it a 2. In the glute however, tomorrow I'll try the delt. Worth it? Kinda even so if it's not pipless in the delts I'll probably decrease to 450/400 mg to make it with zero pip.

Thing is pip is kinda strange sometime, I can inject the same compound and have zero pip and inject it again another time and have a good pip, because injection technique, if you nicked a small vein or a nerve or whatever the fuck it is can make a big difference.

Anyway both these concentration are completely doable and fine and not crippling at all. At least for me.

I'll try a 250mg primo to see if there is a big difference in PIP compared to 300.

Still have to pin the Masteron 400.

Next brew will be 300mg Tren E and 200mg NPP and deca 400. DHB I ain't gonna brew it for now and test U it's pippless at 250mg so no reason to brew it at the moment as I have enough in stash. Not gonna brew test C either as the only reason I bought it is if any friends want it. I fucking hate test C and E too many injection too low of a concentration on average.

Boldenone U will be brewed when I have the bottle top filter, as I'm not looking forward to syringe filter 100ml of bolde U and neither to measure lower quantities of it to brew a smaller amount. When I have the bottle top I'll dump 100gr of it in the beaker and just do a good brew.

 

[Sampei]

Btw I have decided against primo 300 so next brew will be 250mg to see if it's better. Decided against tren 300 as well. Gonna brew it at 250mg.

there are a few substance that I believe are worth to try high concentration but other like tren probably not, as I'll not run more than 300mg tren even a concentration of 200mg probably should be more than enough for me.

I'll see if the masteron 400 is pipless if it's not I'll decrease to 300mg.

Pain in the ass to have to do all these tests but hey I guess it is part of the game, I like the brewing but not to have to inject random substances just to see if there is PIP or not. My body will have to forgive me when in the next 2 weeks i'll inject tren/mast/npp/deca/primo in the span of probably 10-15 days ahaha

Oh boy what a ride