Sampei Brewing Journey

[Ateam2023]

Btw I have decided against primo 300 so next brew will be 250mg to see if it's better. Decided against tren 300 as well. Gonna brew it at 250mg.

there are a few substance that I believe are worth to try high concentration but other like tren probably not, as I'll not run more than 300mg tren even a concentration of 200mg probably should be more than enough for me.

I'll see if the masteron 400 is pipless if it's not I'll decrease to 300mg.

Pain in the ass to have to do all these tests but hey I guess it is part of the game, I like the brewing but not to have to inject random substances just to see if there is PIP or not. My body will have to forgive me when in the next 2 weeks i'll inject tren/mast/npp/deca/primo in the span of probably 10-15 days ahaha

Oh boy what a ride

giddy up

 

[Sampei]

I have pinned 1ml of Masteron E 400mg in the right delt. Will report if any pip.

Mixed my 10ml of primo 300mg with 60+ ml of primo 200mg, tomorrow will brew the NPP 200 (should be a bitch to have it hold at 200mg) and the Tren 250 and If I'm in the mood I'll finish with some deca 400 for a final sprint.

What I noticed with high concentration gear like the Mast 400, is that it doesn't fucking flow easy even in MCT, I used a 25G to draw and it was taking quite a bit of time, injected with 27G and yeah it wasn't hard but wasn't really flowing like other concentration usually do.

So this is another thing to keep in mind when brewing high concentration, now... If only my mig840 experiment was successful I could brew all high concentration with that beauty! too bad I still don't know if it raises my CRP, so I'll have to hold using that carrier oil. For now everything in organic MCT.

Btw I was thinking about the primo and how castor oil helps with the PIP so what If I brew 300mg primo in castor oil 35/40%BB so I keep it thin and achieve that beautiful 300mg pipless? @narta could it work?

Fuck me so many possibilities! I need some guinea pigs to test all my brew ideas lol

 

[Dirthand]

Btw I have decided against primo 300 so next brew will be 250mg to see if it's better. Decided against tren 300 as well. Gonna brew it at 250mg.

there are a few substance that I believe are worth to try high concentration but other like tren probably not, as I'll not run more than 300mg tren even a concentration of 200mg probably should be more than enough for me.

I'll see if the masteron 400 is pipless if it's not I'll decrease to 300mg.

Pain in the ass to have to do all these tests but hey I guess it is part of the game, I like the brewing but not to have to inject random substances just to see if there is PIP or not. My body will have to forgive me when in the next 2 weeks i'll inject tren/mast/npp/deca/primo in the span of probably 10-15 days ahaha

Oh boy what a ride

It will be fucking great!!!!

 

[narta]

Btw I was thinking about the primo and how castor oil helps with the PIP so what If I brew 300mg primo in castor oil 35/40%BB so I keep it thin and achieve that beautiful 300mg pipless? @narta could it work?

 

[Sampei]

I'll try it, when I finish all the fucking primo oil I have bought before going the homebrew route.

Thing is with fucking primo testing different recipes is expensive fucking hell and with these RAW scarcity I feel bad in throwing 5 gr here 5 gr there just to satisfy my hunger of discovering stuff ahah

Thanks man!

 

[29trt]

I have pinned 1ml of Masteron E 400mg in the right delt. Will report if any pip.

Mixed my 10ml of primo 300mg with 60+ ml of primo 200mg, tomorrow will brew the NPP 200 (should be a bitch to have it hold at 200mg) and the Tren 250 and If I'm in the mood I'll finish with some deca 400 for a final sprint.

What I noticed with high concentration gear like the Mast 400, is that it doesn't fucking flow easy even in MCT, I used a 25G to draw and it was taking quite a bit of time, injected with 27G and yeah it wasn't hard but wasn't really flowing like other concentration usually do.

So this is another thing to keep in mind when brewing high concentration, now... If only my mig840 experiment was successful I could brew all high concentration with that beauty! too bad I still don't know if it raises my CRP, so I'll have to hold using that carrier oil. For now everything in organic MCT.

Btw I was thinking about the primo and how castor oil helps with the PIP so what If I brew 300mg primo in castor oil 35/40%BB so I keep it thin and achieve that beautiful 300mg pipless? @narta could it work?

Fuck me so many possibilities! I need some guinea pigs to test all my brew ideas lol

Yup concentration makes a big difference to the final thicknesses of the brew...I mean you are dissolving a solid in a liquid it stands to reason that it will make it thicker but indeed it is quite a big difference and from experience the relationship does not seem to be linear...

Test cyp 250 seems to be 50% thicker than Test cyp 300 at least to my hand....
on top of that PIP also increases allot with concentration for MCT/Mig 812

But are you planning to run Primo solo for ex? I would not think so... When you mix it with something else its going to reduce the concentration as long as the other oil is under the PIP threshold...

So what I do now is prioritize which compound will require more concentration because of total injected volume limitations.... So if I do a cycle that is test focused so maybe 1000test and 500 mast per week I will use test cyp 300 mixed with mast 200, I hope that makes sense....

 

[Sampei]

Yup concentration makes a big difference to the final thicknesses of the brew...I mean you are dissolving a solid in a liquid it stands to reason that it will make it thicker but indeed it is quite a big difference and from experience the relationship does not seem to be linear...

Test cyp 250 seems to be 50% thicker than Test cyp 300 at least to my hand....
on top of that PIP also increases allot with concentration for MCT/Mig 812

But are you planning to run Primo solo for ex? I would not think so... When you mix it with something else its going to reduce the concentration as long as the other oil is under the PIP threshold...

So what I do now is prioritize which compound will require more concentration because of total injected volume limitations.... So if I do a cycle that is test focused so maybe 1000test and 500 mast per week I will use test cyp 300 mixed with mast 200, I hope that makes sense....

Yeah it does make sense what you are saying. I plan to use EQ in many of my cycles so I could probably use it's pippless properties to make other compounds milder even if at high concentration.

I'm debating now if I wanna brew NPP at 150 or 200mg and deca at 350 or 400mg.

UPDATE Masteron 400 PIP:

12 hours after injection 0 PIP in my delt. Can't feel a thing.

On the other hand that primo 300 is still there after few days ahaha not increasing not crazy but it's there. So no primo 300 in MCT is not a good idea. We will see in the future in castor oil.

 

[29trt]

Injection spot makes a huge difference for me... Rear and side delts are fine .... Lats on the other hand are completely random sometimes nothing other times I can't raise my fkin hand they are so sore... Pecs same random PIP but less so , triceps even if I get PIP it does not bother me much.

All done with 29 or 30g needles.

Npp 100 was barely fine for me, deca 350 was good , test ACE 100 was shit even diluted to 50mg i still got some PIP after a few weeks, did not feel it at first ,guess it builds up and the body started to hate the ester... And I think this happens with other esters as well first shots are fine and than PIP starts... Heard this often from DHB users...

 

[Sampei]

Injection spot makes a huge difference for me... Rear and side delts are fine .... Lats on the other hand are completely random sometimes nothing other times I can't raise my fkin hand they are so sore... Pecs same random PIP but less so , triceps even if I get PIP it does not bother me much.

All done with 29 or 30g needles.

Npp 100 was barely fine for me, deca 350 was good , test ACE 100 was shit even diluted to 50mg i still got some PIP after a few weeks, did not feel it at first ,guess it builds up and the body started to hate the ester... And I think this happens with other esters as well first shots are fine and than PIP starts... Heard this often from DHB users...

I only pin: glutes, VG, Delts, Quads.
Quads only if I really don't have any other site to do cuz I don't like them much.
Glutes for a long time have been pip free, lately I'm getting pip from it even if it's super mild.

Well I'm not very prone to PIP, looks like I can shoot primo 300 and be quite fine with it xD

 

[VakarianSK]

I hope you guys don't mind a brew noob like me asking a possibly stupid question (only really just stuck with standard concentrations and ba/bb 1/20) but this thread seems like a wealth of knowledge and knowledgeable members when it comes to experimenting and brewing.

I was wondering, what would happen if you brewed something entirely with bb? No oil but maybe like 1% ba still and then whatever powdered AAS you want to use?

It doesn't seem high bb content is anything to really worry about as far as I can tell it's not toxic.

What made me think of this is because I recently made injectable water based winstrol because all oil based recipes relied on guicoal to act as a super solvent. And it made me think what if you just used entirely bb instead of even just a very high percentage.

Thanks and I look forward to hearing and learning from everyone.

Also love the thread and also Dirts brew log as well.

 

[Sampei]

I hope you guys don't mind a brew noob like me asking a possibly stupid question (only really just stuck with standard concentrations and ba/bb 1/20) but this thread seems like a wealth of knowledge and knowledgeable members when it comes to experimenting and brewing.

I was wondering, what would happen if you brewed something entirely with bb? No oil but maybe like 1% ba still and then whatever powdered AAS you want to use?

It doesn't seem high bb content is anything to really worry about as far as I can tell it's not toxic.

What made me think of this is because I recently made injectable water based winstrol because all oil based recipes relied on guicoal to act as a super solvent. And it made me think what if you just used entirely bb instead of even just a very high percentage.

Thanks and I look forward to hearing and learning from everyone.

Also love the thread and also Dirts brew log as well.

Not sure with a no ester how it would work but with anything that doesn't get absorbed in like 2-3 hours (throwing kinda random numbers here) what would happen is that the BB will get absorbed and than you find yourself with RAWS in your muscle not absorbed and with nothing to hold it... AKA it will be excruciatingly painful.

50% BB you can do, higher I wouldn't really go but I have zero experience in these winstrol recipes or any preworkout recipes.

Some compounds no matter how much BB your throw at it, they will not hold

 

[29trt]

I hope you guys don't mind a brew noob like me asking a possibly stupid question (only really just stuck with standard concentrations and ba/bb 1/20) but this thread seems like a wealth of knowledge and knowledgeable members when it comes to experimenting and brewing.

I was wondering, what would happen if you brewed something entirely with bb? No oil but maybe like 1% ba still and then whatever powdered AAS you want to use?

It doesn't seem high bb content is anything to really worry about as far as I can tell it's not toxic.

What made me think of this is because I recently made injectable water based winstrol because all oil based recipes relied on guicoal to act as a super solvent. And it made me think what if you just used entirely bb instead of even just a very high percentage.

Thanks and I look forward to hearing and learning from everyone.

Also love the thread and also Dirts brew log as well.

BB might be safe at fractions of a ml per day but if you start talking about a ml or more I think you might be threading on the toxic side...granted you are not gonna run winny for long periods of time but still might as well take it orally

 

[VakarianSK]

Not sure with a no ester how it would work but with anything that doesn't get absorbed in like 2-3 hours (throwing kinda random numbers here) what would happen is that the BB will get absorbed and than you find yourself with RAWS in your muscle not absorbed and with nothing to hold it... AKA it will be excruciatingly painful.

50% BB you can do, higher I wouldn't really go but I have zero experience in these winstrol recipes or any preworkout recipes.

Some compounds no matter how much BB your throw at it, they will not hold

I see, I guess since I figured it worked with water, ps80, bb, ba then there might be a way to get it to work with MCT, alot if bb, and ba. But I guess that's not the case.

 

[VakarianSK]

BB might be safe at fractions of a ml per day but if you start talking about a ml or more I think you might be threading on the toxic side...granted you are not gonna run winny for long periods of time but still might as well take it orally

Makes sense but so far I really like the injectable lol. I guess I'll just stick to water based for now since pip does not seem to be a problem because I draw in a little lidocaine with each ml before I inject.

 

[Sampei]

I see, I guess since I figured it worked with water, ps80, bb, ba then there might be a way to get it to work with MCT, alot if bb, and ba. But I guess that's not the case.

Try 100% mig840 or 100% EO

 

[VakarianSK]

Try 100% mig840 or 100% EO

I think EO is very toxic as well from what I've read and heard. Mig840 is something I've been wanting to try but I can't find anywhere that sells small quantities of it.

 

[Sampei]

I think EO is very toxic as well from what I've read and heard. Mig840 is something I've been wanting to try but I can't find anywhere that sells small quantities of it.

EO is more inflammatory, it's not "toxic". Guaiacol it's toxic.

Yeah I wouldn't use either but better EO than guaiacol I guess.

You Europe or USA?

 

[VakarianSK]

EO is more inflammatory, it's not "toxic". Guaiacol it's toxic.

Yeah I wouldn't use either but better EO than guaiacol I guess.

You Europe or USA?

USA, I know mig840 is available here but I would hate to buy it and both have it not work and cause a ton of inflammation and end up watering a liter lol.

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