Save the rich whites from themselves! SOW!

[MisterSuperGod]

i don't see why people get all atwitter when celebs opt to take a personal train car to slag city.

We all have choices to make in this life. They chose to commit suicide. Shit happens. Life goes on for the rest.

 

[x11]

You guys are being a bit unfair. It is a huge step for naturally gifted people to be plucked from obscurity as youths then overnight be adored by millions around the world with every fake ass parasite pandering to you and sex, drugs, money etc thrown at you before you have even grown up.

There is no training or guidance for such an unnatural process.

Not many can deal with it psychologically or emotionally.

Rollins has talked about this.

I went to school with guys at bumblefuck Egypt who went straight to Pro football. The drugs, groupies, money and sluts overwhelmed them and they self destructed.

The industry needs to have a duty of care instead of raping them and spitting them out the other side.

 

[brutus79]

Your empathy is exemplary... but we all get raped and spit out the other side. Celebrity highs are higher, but it all ends the same for everyone- you get older and nobody wants you. I think the double edged sword with celebrity is ego- learn to believe you are better than everyone else and then you can't ask people for help that you are better than. Death by ego is strangely poetic.

You guys are being a bit unfair. It is a huge step for naturally gifted people to be plucked from obscurity as youths then overnight be adored by millions around the world with every fake ass parasite pandering to you and sex, drugs, money etc thrown at you before you have even grown up.

There is no training or guidance for such an unnatural process.

Not many can deal with it psychologically or emotionally.

Rollins has talked about this.

I went to school with guys at bumblefuck Egypt who went straight to Pro football. The drugs, groupies, money and sluts overwhelmed them and they self destructed.

The industry needs to have a duty of care instead of raping them and spitting them out the other side.

 

[johntt44]

Your empathy is exemplary... but we all get raped and spit out the other side. Celebrity highs are higher, but it all ends the same for everyone- you get older and nobody wants you. I think the double edged sword with celebrity is ego- learn to believe you are better than everyone else and then you can't ask people for help that you are better than. Death by ego is strangely poetic.

^ This sounds about right. I think their downfall is big egos. They go through life receiving adulation and praise(from thousands to millions of people) then they become less relevant. An average person (ego) doesnt fall as hard and the same people care about them throughout their life, family, friends, etc.

 

[Rockclimber]

When I first got into the investment advisory business there were some particular things I noticed about money, some of which have been touched upon here.

Money is not inherently evil, Money simply gives you choices, it gives you options. I have seen thousands of clients make their first $3M and then completely blow up. Buying houses that are far too large, boats and airplanes that are far too expensive to maintain Etc. The younger clients tend to marry poorly and get divorced something we at our firm call "Wealth redistribution". The older clients take their money and spend it on side women and get divorced as well. This Perpetual wealth redistribution results in a lack of ability to retire for these clients.

On the flip side I have seen thousands of clients come across their first $3M and change nothing about their lifestyle. They continue to drive the same car live in the same house and stay faithful to the same partner. They might take a family vacation once or twice a year since they now have the funds to do so but in general they tend to accumulate wealth further in preparation for retirement.

In conclusion based on my experiences money is not inherently evil it just gives humans the options to do whatever they want. Many want a new fancy house to fuck their side ho in but on the flip side many want to continue raising their children to be the best that they can be. With money you have the option to do either one without serious repercussions and it really truly shows your nature once you accumulate wealth. Some people use wealth for good and others squander it on frivolous shit.

 

[Rockclimber]

Also the United States was never set up to have a Central Bank. We've actually had two previous central banks and had to destroy them as they were destroying America. Our newest Central Bank has been around about a hundred years and look at what it is done. All of us in the financial sector realize that it is a blood sucking organization. We would probably call it the vampire squid except another financial institution gets that specific name LOL

Getting back to state Banks and then perhaps forcing Banks not to cross state lines is the true American economy. Getting a loan from a bank should be a loan from your Regional Bank not some Bank in New York city that has no idea what your business model is or what your business even looks like on the inside. Bank presidents should be affiliated with the community and when you want to get a loan they should know your face and they should know what your business looks like on the inside. This globalized banking system will be the ultimate destruction of our fiat currency.

The reason the finance industry keeps fiat currency so complicated is so that you all cannot argue back against us. Well, many of you here are capable of arguing against Fiat fractional banking practices but the majority of Americans are not capable let's be honest. I could go on for hours but I think I'm going to go eat some steak instead lol this thread makes me feel like I'm back at my desk on Monday afternoon

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Flenser, flenser, flenser. You are a pretty smart guy but that is an awfully retarded statement. I get that you probably view the affluent as living Americas dream... but you have two types of wealth creation. Classic economics recognizes earned and unearned income- you have that which takes away from the general economy and that which acts as a parasite. Don't be so small minded to argue or allude to the point that the one solution to predatory financialism is socialism or capitalism.
In the 1600s the quest was to remove the hopelessness of feudalism- people born into wealth and everyone else was fucked. Today you have banks acting as our feudal kings. Interest works it's way into every transaction we have- prevents us from being competitive on a world stage.
Charging 1000% markups on medical supplies and services- predatory. Raising mandatory insurance rates to cover those services and turn quarterly increases over to shareholders at the expense of subscribers and the general public- predatory. Lending money for corporate takeovers, stock highjacking raiders that then sell off assets and take on debt to have returns on stock prices- predatory. The stomping out of unions, the austerity forced on the working class coupled with the interest payments that keep the majority in a debt bondage coupled with the "necessity" of college- which is just another word for driving a person into 6 figure debt- predatory. I could honestly go on and on about the majority of the financialized horrors that I'm sure you complain about parts of in your day to day. We have allowed financial institutions to become our lords and kings. Too big to fail! At the end of the day the majority of the billions siphoned off the actual working economy- those that actually produce goods and contribute essential services- would hardly impoverish the rest of people. Would they just raise the price of goods and services to win back the losses? Probably- that's how predatory things work.... but if you put that money into schools, public infrastructure, job training, universal healthcare so that one body can negotiate reasonable prices for medical services and good- things like this do not create poverty. Plenty of proof about that.

This sort of reality- this perception of basic rights and moral financial practices- is normal. Dont fall victim to oligarchy rhetoric that one dollar taken in taxes is a communist redistribution of wealth and dont ralp for a trickle down that never trickles down bro.

Best financial decision i ever made was deciding to get out of debt. And by debt i mean ALL debt. I owe nothing to no one. Anyone can do it if they want. I make a middle class income. Never been rich. Never had ppl to cosign or buy me expensive shit like a college education or a car. Besides thats what the military is for? Lol. Did the debt free thing with 2 kids in tow and a wife that was stay at home. That was our decision. Now shes working as both kids are in school. Since we accomplished all that on just my income. Her fancy new director title and the fancy salary that comes with it is pure savings. On top of the savings i have from my salary. Its scary how fast things change when 2 ppl decide we arent settling for anything but a robust financial future. Its also scary how much money ppl(like i used to be) waste w/o even thinking about it. Auto loans keep ppl in debt till they die because every body has to have the newest flavor. If they had to pay for that car/truck in cash bet damn sure a very very large portion of americans wouldnt be riding in the newest thing to hit the show room floor. Credit cards and payment plans have taken over common sense in the majority of ppl now days. Long ago if yo ass didnt have it in cash yo ass wasnt gettin it! Novel idea right? Now every asshole can budget anything to constrict that budget more and more every month. A compounding effect. Cuz now thats more money thats not being saved. And things like autos are a terrible investment to say the least.

Everybody has the tools to succeed. Just takes hard work and vision. The thought of eliminating all overhead but basic essentials and using all the saved money to pay off debt is far more than most are willing to give up. Cuz that means no fun for a looong time. No late nights on the town, no expensive purchases, no vacations they cant afford. Even may require selling some things to get your head above water. Im not directing this at the wealthy. Those ppl for the most part have no idea what it means to struggle. The poor and middle class are the ones who suffer most from debt and its the target of MOST these companies efforts to get them in that ride or that credit card.

Its not the system. Its the ppl. They have the power. Their just not following the right role models. I came 1600 miles away from home to find my piece of america. Came down here with just my f150. No job waiting for me. Knew no one. Had no ties in the area and decided to put all bets on me. Just balls man. Only took 5 yrs to get where i am now. And i wouldnt trade the last 13 yrs of a debt riddled lifestyle and all the stresses that come with it for anything. It was what formed us to who we are today.

And the future is not only bright. Its blazing with the fury of a thousand suns.
We made the decision to live like no one else now we get to LIVE like no one else.
Life is better without debt

 

[x11]

I don't get it, I was on low pay and had nothing most my life and always had cash and did what I wanted including travel OS.

I became normal got a mortgage, insurances etc now I can hardly feed myself and maintain and I earn more money than I ever have.

Something fucked up with the formula, this close to throwing it all away and going back to basic wage and no debt.

 

[brutus79]

Best financial decision i ever made was deciding to get out of debt. And by debt i mean ALL debt. I owe nothing to no one. Anyone can do it if they want. I make a middle class income. Never been rich. Never had ppl to cosign or buy me expensive shit like a college education or a car. Besides thats what the military is for? Lol. Did the debt free thing with 2 kids in tow and a wife that was stay at home. That was our decision. Now shes working as both kids are in school. Since we accomplished all that on just my income. Her fancy new director title and the fancy salary that comes with it is pure savings. On top of the savings i have from my salary. Its scary how fast things change when 2 ppl decide we arent settling for anything but a robust financial future. Its also scary how much money ppl(like i used to be) waste w/o even thinking about it. Auto loans keep ppl in debt till they die because every body has to have the newest flavor. If they had to pay for that car/truck in cash bet damn sure a very very large portion of americans wouldnt be riding in the newest thing to hit the show room floor. Credit cards and payment plans have taken over common sense in the majority of ppl now days. Long ago if yo ass didnt have it in cash yo ass wasnt gettin it! Novel idea right? Now every asshole can budget anything to constrict that budget more and more every month. A compounding effect. Cuz now thats more money thats not being saved. And things like autos are a terrible investment to say the least.

Everybody has the tools to succeed. Just takes hard work and vision. The thought of eliminating all overhead but basic essentials and using all the saved money to pay off debt is far more than most are willing to give up. Cuz that means no fun for a looong time. No late nights on the town, no expensive purchases, no vacations they cant afford. Even may require selling some things to get your head above water. Im not directing this at the wealthy. Those ppl for the most part have no idea what it means to struggle. The poor and middle class are the ones who suffer most from debt and its the target of MOST these companies efforts to get them in that ride or that credit card.

Its not the system. Its the ppl. They have the power. Their just not following the right role models. I came 1600 miles away from home to find my piece of america. Came down here with just my f150. No job waiting for me. Knew no one. Had no ties in the area and decided to put all bets on me. Just balls man. Only took 5 yrs to get where i am now. And i wouldnt trade the last 13 yrs of a debt riddled lifestyle and all the stresses that come with it for anything. It was what formed us to who we are today.

And the future is not only bright. Its blazing with the fury of a thousand suns.
We made the decision to live like no one else now we get to LIVE like no one else.
Life is better without debt

Everyone does not have the tools to succeed... more people have more of a chance anywhere in this country to be sure- but saying anyone can do it reeks of a lack of understanding about the many constraints life bestows upon people before they have a fighting chance.

There are physical and mental constraints- people born without limbs, without basic motor functions. People with cerebral palsy, downs syndrome, spina bifida- a multitude of disabilities and illnesses handed out by the random. There are also many mental illnesses that one is born with or can be developed- family members rape you, abandoned by drug addict parents- countless forms of abuse that can break a child for good.

Then there is not just poverty- but crushing poverty. There is a constituent that thinks success is color blind- but when you have groups targeted by police who were forced into poverty by this targeting- defunding of education in urban areas, defunding of social programs, food shelves closed- and private prisons with minimum occupancy requirements. Fatherless families die to the mass incarceration from non violent offenses performed to put food on the table... all because jobs that actually support families are just not available to people with records- records handed out randomly to any dark skinned passer by that your average middle class American wouldn't see the inside of a courtroom for.

I sense the eye roll.

The fact of the matter is that there is a color wheel that determines success. It isn't just skin color- but being black sure is not the upper hand in any situation in this country.

You hit the nail on the head with role models... when the only heroes taught about are white (blacks get one- maybe two vs 12 years of white history) and 98% of people on tv, in high corporate positions, in politics, etc are all white, who does a minority look up to? Born into ghettos formed from the segregation born of the jim crow "freedom" that began with the arresting of blacks who were forced into chain gangs rebuilding the south and has simply been exacerbated by selective arresting/profiling, selective hiring, selective renting and credit and drugs funneled in from government agencies since the 60s that helped destroy any community that might have formed that would have been formidable enough to demand more.

I too am debt free. Pursuing dreams. Living a life far beyond what I could have pictured in my wildest dreams....

But the trouble I have slid out of- my skin helped with that. Jobs I got along the way, opportunities afforded- the fact that I never doubted my ability to make it in life was a mental gift not given to all... if I was black, Mexican, whatever- I doubt it would have been the same route if possible at all. I didn't have baby brothers and sisters to care for because my parents were in prison. I wasn't profiled at every twist and turn and thrown in prison for partying in my teens.

So- there is a path to success. A discipline. Hard work, focus. The able bodied, the people with mental acuity and a dearth of mental impairments can follow that road. If they have the right people to show them the way, to keep them from trouble- it's possible.

Unfortunately the world is full of fucked up people who pull people down... ruin their lives for their own gains. Ruin children and ruin adults. It's not just choosing Michael jordan instead of kanye west as a role model... it's a societal rot perpetuated by those in power who seek to seperate the masses by income, debt, race... etc. In a class war that race is the biggest schism used by the elite to keep the many from usurping the few since the jeffersonians first threw their arguments across that parchment.

Saying anyone can do what you did makes light of impossible circumstances of physical, mental, and societal types that people are born into. Everyone doesn't get a trophy dude. You are just as blessed and lucky as you are a hard worker. Some people, no matter what they do, will not ever have a chance at what we do. Period.

 

[boodecarlo]

If you are white and you are rich and famous... be careful! There may be nothing left to accomplish in life except the crown jewel of suicide! Beyond the rampant white on one's own white self crime epidemic we have been seeing since the beginning of time (whites looooove to kill themselves- apparently when there is less struggle life is less precious) and aside from all the mass shootings by whites... there is clearly an epidemic breaking out among rich and famous whites. Traditionally they would mask their inability to deal with life in a heroin overdose, but lately this obvious suicide cry for help needs to be heeded! Kate spade, Anthony bourdain, Robin Williams, Chris cornell- the losses are stacking up!

If you happen to be close to an affluent, famous white who seems to be morose (more so than usual- we know rich whites like to complain almost as much as poor whites about the difficulty of life) please ask them to go back to heroin overdoses. We don't mind them punching out but they fuck up their family in this selfish need for everyone to know how hard it was to be them, and it is just generally irritating to see people feel bad for some whiny fuck who couldn't take a dose of a life 10 times easier than anyone else on the planet. Do the right thing and make it look like an accident. Thanks.

What's up my friend. It's good too see you're still making people's minds melt But seriously it's good to see you around, I've been busy with life stuff but now ima be popping in here more often.

 

[brutus79]

Everyone does not have the tools to succeed... more people have more of a chance anywhere in this country to be sure- but saying anyone can do it reeks of a lack of understanding about the many constraints life bestows upon people before they have a fighting chance.

There are physical and mental constraints- people born without limbs, without basic motor functions. People with cerebral palsy, downs syndrome, spina bifida- a multitude of disabilities and illnesses handed out by the random. There are also many mental illnesses that one is born with or can be developed- family members rape you, abandoned by drug addict parents- countless forms of abuse that can break a child for good.

Then there is not just poverty- but crushing poverty. There is a constituent that thinks success is color blind- but when you have groups targeted by police who were forced into poverty by this targeting- defunding of education in urban areas, defunding of social programs, food shelves closed- and private prisons with minimum occupancy requirements. Fatherless families die to the mass incarceration from non violent offenses performed to put food on the table... all because jobs that actually support families are just not available to people with records- records handed out randomly to any dark skinned passer by that your average middle class American wouldn't see the inside of a courtroom for.

I sense the eye roll.

The fact of the matter is that there is a color wheel that determines success. It isn't just skin color- but being black sure is not the upper hand in any situation in this country.

You hit the nail on the head with role models... when the only heroes taught about are white (blacks get one- maybe two vs 12 years of white history) and 98% of people on tv, in high corporate positions, in politics, etc are all white, who does a minority look up to? Born into ghettos formed from the segregation born of the jim crow "freedom" that began with the arresting of blacks who were forced into chain gangs rebuilding the south and has simply been exacerbated by selective arresting/profiling, selective hiring, selective renting and credit and drugs funneled in from government agencies since the 60s that helped destroy any community that might have formed that would have been formidable enough to demand more.

I too am debt free. Pursuing dreams. Living a life far beyond what I could have pictured in my wildest dreams....

But the trouble I have slid out of- my skin helped with that. Jobs I got along the way, opportunities afforded- the fact that I never doubted my ability to make it in life was a mental gift not given to all... if I was black, Mexican, whatever- I doubt it would have been the same route if possible at all. I didn't have baby brothers and sisters to care for because my parents were in prison. I wasn't profiled at every twist and turn and thrown in prison for partying in my teens.

So- there is a path to success. A discipline. Hard work, focus. The able bodied, the people with mental acuity and a dearth of mental impairments can follow that road. If they have the right people to show them the way, to keep them from trouble- it's possible.

Unfortunately the world is full of fucked up people who pull people down... ruin their lives for their own gains. Ruin children and ruin adults. It's not just choosing Michael jordan instead of kanye west as a role model... it's a societal rot perpetuated by those in power who seek to seperate the masses by income, debt, race... etc. In a class war that race is the biggest schism used by the elite to keep the many from usurping the few since the jeffersonians first threw their arguments across that parchment.

Saying anyone can do what you did makes light of impossible circumstances of physical, mental, and societal types that people are born into. Everyone doesn't get a trophy dude. You are just as blessed and lucky as you are a hard worker. Some people, no matter what they do, will not ever have a chance at what we do. Period.

I also don't want to paint the picture that i think if you aren't white you can't make it. My views come from being treated differently on the street, in courtrooms, in jobs, in restaurants and other public places right next to the people I grew up with who looked different than I did. I got a white glove experience in comparison- and I was doing dirt far beyond most anyone I knew.

I am also not painting my own experience as somehow personifying everyone's reality. I often wondered how deep this went and I started reading... statistics, books, whatever on the subject of class war fought on the racial battleground- far right, far left- you have to read it all to get a sense of what might be true and where everyone is coming from.

It honestly continues to shock me how many people grow up in a setting where they never once hear what the next right thing might be... just try and eat, try not to get arrested or killed, rinse, repeat. I try to give as many people a leg up as I can... but what I dont do is discount the fact that a non white road to success is fraught with a whole lot more peril than mine- and mine was fucking hard and fucking horrible.

 

[brutus79]

What's up my friend. It's good too see you're still making people's minds melt But seriously it's good to see you around, I've been busy with life stuff but now ima be popping in here more often.

Good to see you too man.

 

[x11]

@brutus79 why do you think so many legit psychopaths do exceptionally well in life; status, money, power etc?

 

[brutus79]

@brutus79 why do you think so many legit psychopaths do exceptionally well in life; status, money, power etc?

Because someone devoid of empathy- someone who can operate purely within the confines of logic will always do better than someone constrained by morals and other people when it comes to money and power.

Some would counter that "exceptionally well in life" has nothing to do with money or power- so the fact that many people strive for happiness in areas not based monetarily would also lend itself to a lower "success" rate.

 

[picholas]

@brutus79

Can you elaborate what you mean by "white" as that includes Hispanics as well as Arabs, no?

 

[brutus79]

@brutus79

Can you elaborate what you mean by "white" as that includes Hispanics as well as Arabs, no?

It means... white. Latino certainly doesn't qualify and arabs are... Arab. By my recollection the only white arab was jesus.

Since the post was satire let's say white is any Anglo-Saxon christian oppressor- basically anyone directly descended from a country that has fair skinned people who engaged in homicidal/genocidal colonization in the last few thousand years claiming jesus sent them to help.

 

[x11]

Wrong, white people include slavs, Jews ...... etc.

You sure you don't mean the West.

@brutus79

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

@brutus79 why do you think so many legit psychopaths do exceptionally well in life; status, money, power etc?

What makes you think psychopaths do exceptionally well in life? They have a superficial charm and confidence that people initially find highly attractive, and that helps them; but because they're not capable of forming deep bonds or real friendships and relationships, they view others as a tool to be used to further their own goals.Their narcissism and lack of conscience leads them to screw over everyone around them. They might achieve some professional success by doing that, but antisocial behavior will only take you so far and they usually end up destroying everything they've worked for.

Their personal lives are a disaster. Most have criminal histories because they believe they're above the law; they lack friends because they're incapable of forming friendships on anything but a very superficial level; they have failed relationships and marriages because they're incapable of feeling love or putting the needs of their families, including their own children, above their own self-interests. They bring misery to everyone unfortunate enough to be around them.

Psychopathy might be avantageous to a leader in an autocratic society, where a lack of conscience enables them to be completely ruthless to anyone that threatens or challenges their power, but antisocial personality disorder is no advantage in a society like ours. When the word evil was first created, it almost certainly was done to describe a psychopath.

 

[fightandorflight]

Jordan Peterson? Bro. Isn't he Alex jones' cousin? Or that pedo buddy of trump?

I'll be on the lookout for the 3rd condition that gets me over this hump from talker to doer. Thanks for your concern.

Straw man much? That’s about the response I expected. Dude is actually a top flight scholar, and would own pretty much any supposed “thought leader” contemporary pretenders in a head to head debate on postmodernism. And he has. Even a rudimentary search would have revealed such. Keep spoon feeding your brain. No skin off my back.

 

[brutus79]

Google : satire

I continued it.

Wrong, white people include slavs, Jews ...... etc.

You sure you don't mean the West.

@brutus79