Say goodbye to andro/prohormones!

Crazedlifter

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Posted by Promatrix on AnabolicFreakz
http://anabolicfreakz.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5718

Bad news fellow, the time has come, here is the details=


Big Pharma Assumes Control of United States Government

Please advise esteemed patrons that it is now official that the Feds have united in a joint task force, i.e., DEA, FDA, and US Customs and are stopping all shipments of pro-hormones and pro-steroids coming into the United States of America. Funny thing is, last time I checked, prohormones/pro-steroids were legal dietary supplements protected by the current law, DSHEA! Big Pharma has assumed control of the United States of America.
Big Pharma's agenda is crystal clear: get all of our babies drinking soy milk from day one so that our infants start out life with severe hormonal and endocrine abnormalities. Then prevent them from any physical activity at a young age. Don't offer more than a semester of Physical Education classes and when the kids get restless go in for the Pharmaceutical kill and diagnose them with ADD or ADHD or whatever label you can attach to justify putting them on Ritalin and other brain destroying and nervous system debilitating drugs. Get all the high school kids on valium and other sedatives that will numb them to reality. And emphasize that there is no God so that they turn inward and rely only on their own understanding of a world far too complex to comprehend deal with without a relationship with God. Tell the high school kids how bad heroine, cocaine and extacy are (emphasize the legal ramifications to really scare them) and then advise them that what they really need to do is to see a doctor for prescription medications. Keep running those commercials all day long about Prozac and other drugs to make sure that all the mothers (of our children), the very fabric of the family and society, are void of feelings and emotions. Take the guns out of the house. Just use more prescription drugs if you get depressed. Always stress to family members that prescription drugs are more effective than guns or suicide. Make sure these house wives get really fat and disgusting on processed carbohydrates so that their consistently high circulating insulin levels will cause arterial and other inflammation in the body. Hell, just think of all the drugs we could sell these obese mothers. And, keep the Viagra-type drugs coming on stronger and stronger because the men are going to have to stay attracted to these physically, emotionally and mentally decrepit women. Hell, Viagra's already old school. These men need more potent pharmaceutically-induced wood in their fireplace. And, damn those prohormones to hell! Don't mind the law. Big Pharma is losing money and since we're (Big Pharma) running the country now we'll just pay attention to the law when it suits us best. Right now DSHEA is interfering with pharmaceutical profits so even though the Rand Report commissioned by President Bush says ephedra safe just falsify documents like the FDA did when the GAO (Government Accounting Office) literally kicked them out of their office for presentation of false documentation. Big Pharma's motto: never underestimate the stupidity of the American consumer.

The Role of the Industry Leader:
People continue to ask what VPX is doing prevent "Andro" from being banned. So, here is our answer. When we had a fighting chance, the USFA collaborated with another pro hormone company to push an agenda that was strictly the agenda of one supplement manufacturer and contrary to the myriad of other supplement companies that had a 1-Testosterone and/or other NON-1-andro and and 4-diol products in their line of supplementation. Attorneys for the USFA were heard and documented by VPX detectives at the Arnold Classic as saying, " who does Owoc think he is introducing 1-TEST to the market" and they erroneously concluded with their gross misunderstanding of the law as well deficiency in chemistry and biochemistry that, "1Testosterone is a steroid". 1-TEST is no more of a steroid than DHEA because it's a naturally occurring hormone and it's never been sold as a drug before and is, therefore, legal according to DSHEA. The USFA feared Owoc's 1-TEST product because it circumvented the need to use the 1-andro and 4diol precursors because it was 10 times more potent and had none side effects associated with these other inferior andro's. This obviously threw quite a wrench into the plan of the USFA and its cohorts which was to make all prohoromones illegal except those covered under patent which were 1-andro and 4-diol.

The thing that surprised VPX was that all the other supplement companies were agreeing to this until VPX single handedly exposed this conspiracy and went against their self-serving agenda. There's way more to it than just this, but the point is that if we worked together to save all pro-horomones and all pro-steroids, we wouldn't be in the uncomprimising position that we're now in. It's the selfishness of one man in this industry and the collaboration of the USFA that is the sole cause of why andro is now being banned. United, we did NOT stand, and now we will fall!

What VPX has been researching as the world leader is supplementation are two new patented applications for a 1) a drug-like creatine, and 2) a growth hormone peptide backed by over $50,000 in just wholesale blood work alone that shows from a 312% increase in GH and up to 350 times baseline levels of GH for up to two hours! We're also releasing Glucosacream, a glucosamine cream that is site specific and according to clinical studies, is up to thirty times more effective than pills and capsules. All three of these innovations will be released in April of 2004! So, buy whatever prohormones/pro-steroids that can now because our sources indicate that the Feds are going to come in like gang busters and pull all of these products off of the market. There will be NO 60 day window on andro as with ephedra and no more raw andro materials are allowed to enter the U.S.

Further don't forget that last day to purchase Clenbutrx or your other favorite ephedra-based supplements is April 11!
 
Crazedlifter said:
Posted by Promatrix on AnabolicFreakz
http://anabolicfreakz.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5718

Bad news fellow, the time has come, here is the details=


Big Pharma Assumes Control of United States Government

Please advise esteemed patrons that it is now official that the Feds have united in a joint task force, i.e., DEA, FDA, and US Customs and are stopping all shipments of pro-hormones and pro-steroids coming into the United States of America. Funny thing is, last time I checked, prohormones/pro-steroids were legal dietary supplements protected by the current law, DSHEA! Big Pharma has assumed control of the United States of America.
Big Pharma's agenda is crystal clear: get all of our babies drinking soy milk from day one so that our infants start out life with severe hormonal and endocrine abnormalities. Then prevent them from any physical activity at a young age. Don't offer more than a semester of Physical Education classes and when the kids get restless go in for the Pharmaceutical kill and diagnose them with ADD or ADHD or whatever label you can attach to justify putting them on Ritalin and other brain destroying and nervous system debilitating drugs. Get all the high school kids on valium and other sedatives that will numb them to reality. And emphasize that there is no God so that they turn inward and rely only on their own understanding of a world far too complex to comprehend deal with without a relationship with God. Tell the high school kids how bad heroine, cocaine and extacy are (emphasize the legal ramifications to really scare them) and then advise them that what they really need to do is to see a doctor for prescription medications. Keep running those commercials all day long about Prozac and other drugs to make sure that all the mothers (of our children), the very fabric of the family and society, are void of feelings and emotions. Take the guns out of the house. Just use more prescription drugs if you get depressed. Always stress to family members that prescription drugs are more effective than guns or suicide. Make sure these house wives get really fat and disgusting on processed carbohydrates so that their consistently high circulating insulin levels will cause arterial and other inflammation in the body. Hell, just think of all the drugs we could sell these obese mothers. And, keep the Viagra-type drugs coming on stronger and stronger because the men are going to have to stay attracted to these physically, emotionally and mentally decrepit women. Hell, Viagra's already old school. These men need more potent pharmaceutically-induced wood in their fireplace. And, damn those prohormones to hell! Don't mind the law. Big Pharma is losing money and since we're (Big Pharma) running the country now we'll just pay attention to the law when it suits us best. Right now DSHEA is interfering with pharmaceutical profits so even though the Rand Report commissioned by President Bush says ephedra safe just falsify documents like the FDA did when the GAO (Government Accounting Office) literally kicked them out of their office for presentation of false documentation. Big Pharma's motto: never underestimate the stupidity of the American consumer.

The Role of the Industry Leader:
People continue to ask what VPX is doing prevent "Andro" from being banned. So, here is our answer. When we had a fighting chance, the USFA collaborated with another pro hormone company to push an agenda that was strictly the agenda of one supplement manufacturer and contrary to the myriad of other supplement companies that had a 1-Testosterone and/or other NON-1-andro and and 4-diol products in their line of supplementation. Attorneys for the USFA were heard and documented by VPX detectives at the Arnold Classic as saying, " who does Owoc think he is introducing 1-TEST to the market" and they erroneously concluded with their gross misunderstanding of the law as well deficiency in chemistry and biochemistry that, "1Testosterone is a steroid". 1-TEST is no more of a steroid than DHEA because it's a naturally occurring hormone and it's never been sold as a drug before and is, therefore, legal according to DSHEA. The USFA feared Owoc's 1-TEST product because it circumvented the need to use the 1-andro and 4diol precursors because it was 10 times more potent and had none side effects associated with these other inferior andro's. This obviously threw quite a wrench into the plan of the USFA and its cohorts which was to make all prohoromones illegal except those covered under patent which were 1-andro and 4-diol.

The thing that surprised VPX was that all the other supplement companies were agreeing to this until VPX single handedly exposed this conspiracy and went against their self-serving agenda. There's way more to it than just this, but the point is that if we worked together to save all pro-horomones and all pro-steroids, we wouldn't be in the uncomprimising position that we're now in. It's the selfishness of one man in this industry and the collaboration of the USFA that is the sole cause of why andro is now being banned. United, we did NOT stand, and now we will fall!

What VPX has been researching as the world leader is supplementation are two new patented applications for a 1) a drug-like creatine, and 2) a growth hormone peptide backed by over $50,000 in just wholesale blood work alone that shows from a 312% increase in GH and up to 350 times baseline levels of GH for up to two hours! We're also releasing Glucosacream, a glucosamine cream that is site specific and according to clinical studies, is up to thirty times more effective than pills and capsules. All three of these innovations will be released in April of 2004! So, buy whatever prohormones/pro-steroids that can now because our sources indicate that the Feds are going to come in like gang busters and pull all of these products off of the market. There will be NO 60 day window on andro as with ephedra and no more raw andro materials are allowed to enter the U.S.

Further don't forget that last day to purchase Clenbutrx or your other favorite ephedra-based supplements is April 11!


Thats what ive been trying to say,.stock up now.

fina
 
So What?

Prohormones aren't worth a shit anyway, who cares. They cost twice the cost or real gear and don't do shit. A guy could put the money in steak and get more than bottles of that crap. Who cares if they ban stuff that doesn't work. Ephedra isn't all that great either. You can always buy sudephed and it's the same thing anyway. These laws are political and don't really affect guys in the BB business. Prohormones just never worked, none of them. The guys pushing them were selling them. Ban them. I don't care. they don't compare to a good shot of test or deca, anymore than GH does.
 
hmmmmmm....

so what you are saying is that in April 04 no more pro hormones. this seems kinda far feched to me i think this would have the same affect as prohabition? and dont think it will happen on an overnight basis there is two much money being made off these drugs to have this happen overnight. but if its true, well i got to go make a big F*ckin order so later.
 
fresprt33 said:
Prohormones aren't worth a shit anyway, who cares. They cost twice the cost or real gear and don't do shit. A guy could put the money in steak and get more than bottles of that crap. Who cares if they ban stuff that doesn't work. Ephedra isn't all that great either. You can always buy sudephed and it's the same thing anyway. These laws are political and don't really affect guys in the BB business. Prohormones just never worked, none of them. The guys pushing them were selling them. Ban them. I don't care. they don't compare to a good shot of test or deca, anymore than GH does.
The problem is that the govt wont stop with epedra and PH. Next thing on the list will be creatine. Yeah, thats a fuckin killer.:rolleyes:

Some PH do work, no question. A bunch of guys from Meso (and other AAS boards) were included in an informal study from Biotest to study Mag-10. Nearly everyone got decent to very good results. And these were guys that had done a minimum of 1g test/wk. I agree that for most guys its better to just buy the real deal, but there are also a lot of guys that are very worried about the legal status of AAS.

They will not be off the shelf in April because the FDA hasnt banned them yet. Once that takes place, it will be at least 60 days before they can no longer be (legally) sold.
 
Bob Smith said:
The problem is that the govt wont stop with epedra and PH. Next thing on the list will be creatine. Yeah, thats a fuckin killer.:rolleyes:

Some PH do work, no question. A bunch of guys from Meso (and other AAS boards) were included in an informal study from Biotest to study Mag-10. Nearly everyone got decent to very good results. And these were guys that had done a minimum of 1g test/wk. I agree that for most guys its better to just buy the real deal, but there are also a lot of guys that are very worried about the legal status of AAS.

They will not be off the shelf in April because the FDA hasnt banned them yet. Once that takes place, it will be at least 60 days before they can no longer be (legally) sold.

Exactly. Andro, etc. will still be around until the FDA bans it but this is the first major step in that stopping imports means stopping production for most companies.
 
So guys knowing what we know what would be the time frame be on the banning of prohormones?So i can know how much to stock up.
 
Example letter---
http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~acrobat/andltr2.pdf
FDA---
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/news/2004/hhs_031104.html

Looks like those idiots are going after dione but it still sends the message and I dont see how companies will continue to manufature with the risk of being thrown into the current situation on steroids/andro.
 
Keep this bumped.

this sucks


The government is taking away our rights more and more and more....


first "you need helmets to ride a motorcyle", then "you need a seatbelt in your car",then "no tits at the superbowl show", now its "no ephedra", next it will be "no prohormones without a prescription" and then "dont chew gum while walking down the street"


fuck, nothing like saving all of us dumbasses from ourselves!!


can you say "FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!" ?? I knew you could....
 
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