Sexual Estim-Wouldn't this pose long term risks?

Yowzer

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You see some crazy things on the net. Guys attaching estim electrodes to the penis, testicles and even in the anus to achieve "hands free orgasms". If there are concerns about electric power wires nearby or cell phones radio waves, it seems running electricity directly through the body would pose far greater risks of cancer. This is high voltage, low amperage but wouldn't that be enough to knock cause cellular damage leading to cancer risks?
 
I'll give you the rundown on this... ZKT and I had some interesting conversation on this years back which you can find around here somewhere.

So you know I am going to study something I am interested in right... Here is the long and short which I have gathered....

1. Analog signals and ampsLIFIERS are the best. You might find something small at Partsexpress.com. You probably would not want to go over 10WPC with a good true and pure analog signal... You probably cant find something that small. So look up "DAVEY BOX" and then do your own modifications including amplitude modulators (BIG VOLUME KNOB) to easily control said signal.

2. Be wary the machine you source your signal from. If puter them make sure ALL OTHER SOUNDS ARE OFF. 1 watt of one frequency IS NOT the same as 1 watt of another. Thus leads the paranoia in delving into unknown sound tracks. Talk about being on PINS and NEEDLES... YOU CAN GET YER EYES CROSSES LITERALLY..! LOL Most of them from smartstim.com are safe at least as how they describe... They were forerunners in this technology... And as one last example of not having your signal source (sound player) set up right. One time I was tuning along and sampling thru a bunch as you might. I HAD THE FREGGIN FADE OUT EFFECT ON THIS COMPUTER UNKNOWINGLY AND DUE TO SUPPLEMENTAL BUT FUNDAMENTAL SOUND PROCESSING FIRMWARE AND SOFTWARE.... Long and short is that I started and stopped a routine about 3-4 times and enough to have them all running at once and felt my EYEBALLS GET HOT.... Freaky... YES//

3. Regardless of AMP TYPE - .WAV or whatever CD grade is - is ALWAYS better than MP3. They say some of the art is lost. I believe it... Best time I ever had was on an older boom box with .WAV-CD which I was playing... I Recommend Claude's CYBER Sexual Symphony is one to show you the true power and one that never gets old... Its a bit aggressive at transitions. HINT...

4. This in many ways RUINED my erectile capacity. And I don't think from a physiological "damage" standpoint. It's simply so intense that no pussy you can find to stick yer dick in will ever do this...!!!! Not possible. And HEY!!! It dont talk back....:);) But I know in my heart of hearts this only damaged me psychologically for the most part. Because If I have not messed with that in say 6months to a year. I can get back to pounding puss with wood...

5. Now some folks say it bolsters sex. They even have routines called "Hardener" and shit like that which are supposed to stimulate nerves to act as if you are 'Flexing a bone". Never work for me. In fact I dont think I have ever had erection doing it. It has been at least 3 years now...

6. I would try to start out in the mindset that you want to be hard to do it. Cause what ultimately happened to me is that I LEARNED that you aint got to be hard to cum... Of course you combine that with Tabs, amphetamines, and alcohol - AND I NEVER STOOD A CHANCE...! LOL

7. No session will ever be the same. It depends on current body chemistry, trode configuration, and SIZE AND SHAPE OF TRODES. You are dealing with electricity so note that VOLUME/SIZE will have a big impact on current distribution... You will find a bigger rectal trode is better... But perhaps that was my problem. I recall once using a tiny sphere shaped rear end trode with a funky configuration on top which was completely eyecrossing from start to finish..(4 hours later..:eek::eek::D) Its in short an experiment which never ends, because you are too cross-eyed to document the results... LOL


NEVER USE A HOME STEREO AMP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ALWAYS USE DC CONVERSION. LIKE LAPTOP or BATT POWERED RADIO Boom box... Set one up on a home stereo and grab the knob and you will learn things that living mortals are not meant to know...! SO you got a portable speaker system for phones for 20 bucks and running on a laptop for a good start...

I FOUNDED LIQUID STIM. No ONE WILL TELL YOU THIS. I AM SO TO SAY... "The Godfather" there...

*** Whether or not you allow the trode to entry the body or not is HUGE DIFFERENCE.. eg. TRODE IN ARSE OR JUST OUTSIDE. or TRODE ON DICKHEAD OR POKING IN SLIGHTLY...

- A LOW HZ signal will feel like a BURN at first. Damage?? Unclear...

-A DC signal will cook your insides and you may not even know it. Thats a chemical reaction and well as molting metal to flesh. Like an acid and base generated from the body and the neg and pos ends. Exactly like the old hair removal electrolysis in which the sodium hydroxide formed at the hair killing end, and some kind of acid formed at the one opposite trode you held in hand...

Multi-person is pretty much out. Nip stim I have never tried for similar reasons. The are REASONS for this if you are not familiar with basic electricity...

ON YOUR QUESTION NOW......

A. Long term safety. No one knows. There have been times I have been convinced that its some plot to destroy the sexual function of sinners and sure about it.

B. Other times I just have a blast and done...

C. There is a risk of the A/C driven signal to attenuate and become DC. DC IS NOT GOOD...! The incidence apparently occurs when the current signal(routine) sets up in a way that causes things to line up as "DC".. The issue with DC is that you get a GALVANIC ACTION. Essentially ELECTROLYSIS IN YOUR BODY. Which causes elements and metals to permanently bond with TISSUE... Not good... Be wary the routines you run. You will know when you have got on a bad one and will smell the flesh at some point...

D. The Idea is to have and IN and OUT in close proximity and AWAY FROM THE HEART.. Even if you were nip stimming with AC in on tit and OUT on Aeraola, Who is to say one might see the other side and jump accross your heart. They without a good defib signal and someone to administer it you are fucked.

E. Be aware the surface you sit, stand, or lay!! Shoes or no shoes. ETC...

F. The common setup is (left) head, (right speaker) arse, and both grounds combined on the old cock and ball loop.... That provides for the TRI-Configuration which blends it all and makes the mastery... Some routines may designate but most dont get that specific and dont tell in advance..

G. THERE'S A LOT A WIERD FUKERS DOING THAT SHIT.. WIERD...

F. LASTLY - Muscle neurological signaling/actuation is at about 50HZ to make a muscle twitch. The twitching of said muscles stimulates nerves in that case... This is the BASELINE STIMULUS... Keep in mind that neurological signalling on nerve paths runs in GIGAHERTZ or higher... Like 22GH I think I recall. You will not get there directly with this equipment..

H. RULE - The HIGHER the Cycle of the signal (HZ), the more potential damage. You wont achieve much more that 5000HZ with a basic box. Clearly the lower is more natural in action. WHICH IS MORE DAMAGING..? Who knows. But most likely has to do with AMPLITUDE (VOLUME). And in either case... When I first got into that YEARS BACK I recall that 5-700 HZ is a pretty good range. You have to watch out cause at the same volume, and with a quick shift to 100 HZ, IT will drop you to yer knees... But thats doable.

I. The nightmare scenario would be that you were cruising along and having fun with a 5000HZ signal and BAM!!! Some asshole drops a 400HZ signal in on you for a sec. Because the higher the HZ the more volume (amplitude) you have to crank... So you would go from what feels nice at 5000hz to a quick change to 400hz WHICH WOULD NOT BE NICE AT SAID VOLUME FOR THE 5000hz part... :eek::eek::eek::eek: EG. Pray you have all other sounds muted if working from a laptop. The windows DING is NOT FRIENDLY I assure you...

J. Lastly there are all types of WAVEFORMS. SINE, TO SQUARE, To Ever changing. Some folks have to ballz to stim to classical music!!! Never tried. You just get too lost on the first one that fits yer fancy..

There. Cant believe I recalled all that... Its some GOOD CROSS-EYED NUTTING FO SHO...
LOL

I personally always enjoyed experimenting for the med science aspect, as it has to make one wonder could you indeed create alkaline conditions within the prostate and KILL CANCER.... I find it amusing that medical "Science" has not explored this chemical potential be it AC, DC, or MODULATED FROM WHO KNOWS....!

ALSO - In terms of power lines as you mentioned. We are talking the difference between a magnetic field completely uncontrolled and attenuated from a STRONG SIGNAL and with many variables in between and well as USUALLY a lONG TERM exposure if you live by them..

In my guestimation, this is more like a limited short term exposure to signal power not even capable of creating a strong field... Futhermore, its a direct stimulation creating a neurological response DIRECTLY. Its a very small dose. You never saw anyones leg jumpin round being under a powerline. You also have an IN and and OUT... But then again.. Cells are very small things... Still - I cant seem to turn myself into MAGNETO from X-MEN....! LOL:D:eek::p

:):):)

You see some crazy things on the net. Guys attaching estim electrodes to the penis, testicles and even in the anus to achieve "hands free orgasms". If there are concerns about electric power wires nearby or cell phones radio waves, it seems running electricity directly through the body would pose far greater risks of cancer. This is high voltage, low amperage but wouldn't that be enough to knock cause cellular damage leading to cancer risks?
 
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Wow!! That goes way beyond the estim boxes or tens units you see discussed today. Definitely sound dangerous the way you did it with burning flesh and melting electrodes etc.
Still it doesn't seem like it would take much electric current to be knocking electrons out of orbit. Especially since it seems like the electrodes are attached in the same locations each time and some people claim to do it for hours on end.
 
I'll give you the rundown on this... ZKT and I had some interesting conversation on this years back which you can find around here somewhere.

So you know I am going to study something I am interested in right... Here is the long and short which I have gathered....

1. Analog signals and ampsLIFIERS are the best. You might find something small at Partsexpress.com. You probably would not want to go over 10WPC with a good true and pure analog signal... You probably cant find something that small. So look up "DAVEY BOX" and then do your own modifications including amplitude modulators (BIG VOLUME KNOB) to easily control said signal.

2. Be wary the machine you source your signal from. If puter them make sure ALL OTHER SOUNDS ARE OFF. 1 watt of one frequency IS NOT the same as 1 watt of another. Thus leads the paranoia in delving into unknown sound tracks. Talk about being on PINS and NEEDLES... YOU CAN GET YER EYES CROSSES LITERALLY..! LOL Most of them from smartstim.com are safe at least as how they describe... They were forerunners in this technology... And as one last example of not having your signal source (sound player) set up right. One time I was tuning along and sampling thru a bunch as you might. I HAD THE FREGGIN FADE OUT EFFECT ON THIS COMPUTER UNKNOWINGLY AND DUE TO SUPPLEMENTAL BUT FUNDAMENTAL SOUND PROCESSING FIRMWARE AND SOFTWARE.... Long and short is that I started and stopped a routine about 3-4 times and enough to have them all running at once and felt my EYEBALLS GET HOT.... Freaky... YES//

3. Regardless of AMP TYPE - .WAV or whatever CD grade is - is ALWAYS better than MP3. They say some of the art is lost. I believe it... Best time I ever had was on an older boom box with .WAV-CD which I was playing... I Recommend Claude's CYBER Sexual Symphony is one to show you the true power and one that never gets old... Its a bit aggressive at transitions. HINT...

4. This in many ways RUINED my erectile capacity. And I don't think from a physiological "damage" standpoint. It's simply so intense that no pussy you can find to stick yer dick in will ever do this...!!!! Not possible. And HEY!!! It dont talk back....:);) But I know in my heart of hearts this only damaged me psychologically for the most part. Because If I have not messed with that in say 6months to a year. I can get back to pounding puss with wood...

5. Now some folks say it bolsters sex. They even have routines called "Hardener" and shit like that which are supposed to stimulate nerves to act as if you are 'Flexing a bone". Never work for me. In fact I dont think I have ever had erection doing it. It has been at least 3 years now...

6. I would try to start out in the mindset that you want to be hard to do it. Cause what ultimately happened to me is that I LEARNED that you aint got to be hard to cum... Of course you combine that with Tabs, amphetamines, and alcohol - AND I NEVER STOOD A CHANCE...! LOL

7. No session will ever be the same. It depends on current body chemistry, trode configuration, and SIZE AND SHAPE OF TRODES. You are dealing with electricity so note that VOLUME/SIZE will have a big impact on current distribution... You will find a bigger rectal trode is better... But perhaps that was my problem. I recall once using a tiny sphere shaped rear end trode with a funky configuration on top which was completely eyecrossing from start to finish..(4 hours later..:eek::eek::D) Its in short an experiment which never ends, because you are too cross-eyed to document the results... LOL


NEVER USE A HOME STEREO AMP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ALWAYS USE DC CONVERSION. LIKE LAPTOP or BATT POWERED RADIO Boom box... Set one up on a home stereo and grab the knob and you will learn things that living mortals are not meant to know...! SO you got a portable speaker system for phones for 20 bucks and running on a laptop for a good start...

I FOUNDED LIQUID STIM. No ONE WILL TELL YOU THIS. I AM SO TO SAY... "The Godfather" there...

*** Whether or not you allow the trode to entry the body or not is HUGE DIFFERENCE.. eg. TRODE IN ARSE OR JUST OUTSIDE. or TRODE ON DICKHEAD OR POKING IN SLIGHTLY...

- A LOW HZ signal will feel like a BURN at first. Damage?? Unclear...

-A DC signal will cook your insides and you may not even know it. Thats a chemical reaction and well as molting metal to flesh. Like an acid and base generated from the body and the neg and pos ends. Exactly like the old hair removal electrolysis in which the sodium hydroxide formed at the hair killing end, and some kind of acid formed at the one opposite trode you held in hand...

Multi-person is pretty much out. Nip stim I have never tried for similar reasons. The are REASONS for this if you are not familiar with basic electricity...

ON YOUR QUESTION NOW......

A. Long term safety. No one knows. There have been times I have been convinced that its some plot to destroy the sexual function of sinners and sure about it.

B. Other times I just have a blast and done...

C. There is a risk of the A/C driven signal to attenuate and become DC. DC IS NOT GOOD...! The incidence apparently occurs when the current signal(routine) sets up in a way that causes things to line up as "DC".. The issue with DC is that you get a GALVANIC ACTION. Essentially ELECTROLYSIS IN YOUR BODY. Which causes elements and metals to permanently bond with TISSUE... Not good... Be wary the routines you run. You will know when you have got on a bad one and will smell the flesh at some point...

D. The Idea is to have and IN and OUT in close proximity and AWAY FROM THE HEART.. Even if you were nip stimming with AC in on tit and OUT on Aeraola, Who is to say one might see the other side and jump accross your heart. They without a good defib signal and someone to administer it you are fucked.

E. Be aware the surface you sit, stand, or lay!! Shoes or no shoes. ETC...

F. The common setup is (left) head, (right speaker) arse, and both grounds combined on the old cock and ball loop.... That provides for the TRI-Configuration which blends it all and makes the mastery... Some routines may designate but most dont get that specific and dont tell in advance..

G. THERE'S A LOT A WIERD FUKERS DOING THAT SHIT.. WIERD...

F. LASTLY - Muscle neurological signaling/actuation is at about 50HZ to make a muscle twitch. The twitching of said muscles stimulates nerves in that case... This is the BASELINE STIMULUS... Keep in mind that neurological signalling on nerve paths runs in GIGAHERTZ or higher... Like 22GH I think I recall. You will not get there directly with this equipment..

H. RULE - The HIGHER the Cycle of the signal (HZ), the more potential damage. You wont achieve much more that 5000HZ with a basic box. Clearly the lower is more natural in action. WHICH IS MORE DAMAGING..? Who knows. But most likely has to do with AMPLITUDE (VOLUME). And in either case... When I first got into that YEARS BACK I recall that 5-700 HZ is a pretty good range. You have to watch out cause at the same volume, and with a quick shift to 100 HZ, IT will drop you to yer knees... But thats doable.

I. The nightmare scenario would be that you were cruising along and having fun with a 5000HZ signal and BAM!!! Some asshole drops a 400HZ signal in on you for a sec. Because the higher the HZ the more volume (amplitude) you have to crank... So you would go from what feels nice at 5000hz to a quick change to 400hz WHICH WOULD NOT BE NICE AT SAID VOLUME FOR THE 5000hz part... :eek::eek::eek::eek: EG. Pray you have all other sounds muted if working from a laptop. The windows DING is NOT FRIENDLY I assure you...

J. Lastly there are all types of WAVEFORMS. SINE, TO SQUARE, To Ever changing. Some folks have to ballz to stim to classical music!!! Never tried. You just get too lost on the first one that fits yer fancy..

There. Cant believe I recalled all that... Its some GOOD CROSS-EYED NUTTING FO SHO...
LOL

I personally always enjoyed experimenting for the med science aspect, as it has to make one wonder could you indeed create alkaline conditions within the prostate and KILL CANCER.... I find it amusing that medical "Science" has not explored this chemical potential be it AC, DC, or MODULATED FROM WHO KNOWS....!

ALSO - In terms of power lines as you mentioned. We are talking the difference between a magnetic field completely uncontrolled and attenuated from a STRONG SIGNAL and with many variables in between and well as USUALLY a lONG TERM exposure if you live by them..

In my guestimation, this is more like a limited short term exposure to signal power not even capable of creating a strong field... Futhermore, its a direct stimulation creating a neurological response DIRECTLY. Its a very small dose. You never saw anyones leg jumpin round being under a powerline. You also have an IN and and OUT... But then again.. Cells are very small things... Still - I cant seem to turn myself into MAGNETO from X-MEN....! LOL:D:eek::p

:):):)

Your posts are either that of a genius way ahead of his time, or the ramblings of tweaker, I can never get even halfway through without giving up.
 
No, its the same. I am just not explaining the concept correctly. What I was saying in the "Burning Flesh" due to Electrolysis is that...

Proper use of AC current at extremely low amperage may not be harmful, under certain parameters. HOWEVER, SOMETIMES an AC stereo-stim "Routine" (a set of pre-recorded sound) CAN PERHAPS ACCIDENTALLY Modulate or "line up" in a way that DC type voltage is the UNWANTED Net Result. DC is dangerous because it polarizes in a way which creates ELECTROLYSIS in the body. Thus creating harmful chemical reactions involving the internal and external flesh/cells...!! It is a RARE occurrence when using a STIM Routine unless it was intended to do so (for Sick gluttens).

STIM or TENS-Type technology is essentially REVERSING Sound back from the final product encoded to go to SPEAKERS, and back into the RAW FORM before it got processed...

I DID omit to answer your primary question.... YES I DO believe it would pose long term risk. Apologies, I was focusing on the more immediate SHORT TERM Risks....
:D:)

Wow!! That goes way beyond the estim boxes or tens units you see discussed today. Definitely sound dangerous the way you did it with burning flesh and melting electrodes etc.
Still it doesn't seem like it would take much electric current to be knocking electrons out of orbit. Especially since it seems like the electrodes are attached in the same locations each time and some people claim to do it for hours on end.
 
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