Should we have a scammer list/thread?

[TheSpectre]

With all the scamming and quality control issues going on, should we have a thread devoted to listing scammers? Or possibly a review page for sources?

I know they have their own threads, but some are just enormous (MFL, Astro, etc...).

Just an idea.

 

[Nitrobuste]

The problem: Who decides which source becomes part of that list...

 

[Get2dachoppahh]

Some type of voting system? Or maybe authorized posts from admin with proof? Clearly I'm a new guy to this board but it does give me a different perspective than you distinguished members. I hope you all may respect my opinion.

I feel that many of the members truly do care about their fellow members, even if they may get in arguments, nobody wants to see someone getting hurt from bunk gear or getting strait up ripped off.

I do think that if the community continues to watch each others back and systematically continues to annex the bad sources and continue review good ones, the overall market within us will create more competition to create the best product. In result a safer community will establish with better gear.

 

[Millard]

Perhaps a thread with a list of vendors who have been "proven" to have problems. If a vendor is posted in the thread, the proof should be posted in the form of hyperlinks to the relevant posts/threads substantiating/documenting such behavior.

The thread shouldn't be used to investigate or build a case against a vendor. It should be used only if the case has been conclusively made elsewhere.

Also, I personally find the word "scammer" overused. The criteria can range from a source who takes money and sends nothing in return to one who sells counterfeits to one who sells overpriced gear ; one who sells bunk gear to one who sells contaminated gear to one who sells underdosed; one who has inconsistent customer service to to one who has terrible customer service to one who makes death threats against members.

The qualitative distinctions may be important when discussing an androgen black market where practically all vendors meet one of the aforementioned "scammer" criteria.

This qualitative data would be of considerable value in such a scammer and/or sources-with-problems thread.

 

[Gman22]

I agree the world scammer is overused!!!
And yeah we should have a scammers list and by scammers
I mean peoples that sells total bunk gear...

Together we can FIGHT....

 

[Burrr]

It would be a much smaller thread if we had one dedicated to good SRC's.

 

[flenser]

The trick will be to get the problem source on the list before it blows up, ducks out, then returns under a new name. It's a moving target.

 

[Get2dachoppahh]

Maybe then ones proven to be good (at the time) should just be listed, name much less likely to change

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

The scammer list would be long as fuck. And we could never edit the first page, so I dont know if it would do any good. One shouldnt have to scroll through 100s and 100s of pages to find out if a certain someone is legit or not. All the scammers should be listed on the first page

 

[Get2dachoppahh]

Another thing is, we typically only hear of the problems. Not saying that's a bad thing, but how could we get more people stating a review on when everything goes good? Mistakes do happen in all type of business. I mean mistakes like the wrong stuff being sent, not bunk gear. (Forgivable mistakes)

One vendor could have 5 people complaint but doing 20X more business than another guy with 2 complaints. The good stuff needs to be reported too

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Might be a no win situation..

 

[JackC4]

Perhaps a thread with a list of vendors who have been "proven" to have problems. If a vendor is posted in the thread, the proof should be posted in the form of hyperlinks to the relevant posts/threads substantiating/documenting such behavior.

The thread shouldn't be used to investigate or build a case against a vendor. It should be used only if the case has been conclusively made elsewhere.

Also, I personally find the word "scammer" overused. The criteria can range from a source who takes money and sends nothing in return to one who sells counterfeits to one who sells overpriced gear ; one who sells bunk gear to one who sells contaminated gear to one who sells underdosed; one who has inconsistent customer service to to one who has terrible customer service to one who makes death threats against members.

The qualitative distinctions may be important when discussing an androgen black market where practically all vendors meet one of the aforementioned "scammer" criteria.

This qualitative data would be of considerable value in such a scammer and/or sources-with-problems thread.

Is could do away with a lot of the questions about who is g2g? Or not if nobody decides to read the damn thing. Now this would have to be edited by staff?

 

[heady muscle]

Yes, Please do this. Searching threads for info can be cumbersome. If a sticky can be created in a tier format. Something like this:

1. Underdosed
2. Scammed - lab received money and didn't send product.
3. so on and so on.

That way we all shake out the egregious labs from the labs that had a bad (low dosed) batch or they got a new raw supplier and that supplier is no good....
Great idea!

 

[Big_paul]

That is what the underground is. Maybe a condensed version. Keeping condensed is where the problem lies.It would most likely have 50 pages by the end of the first week. And 25 of those would be members publicly airing their personal differences.

 

[TheSpectre]

Like how eBay has a complaint/feedback system for suppliers to explain the situation from their sides. That with some form of a rating system...

 

[pumpingiron22]

Maybe if we had a rating system based on stars 1 through 5 and then have comments kinda like google or rotten tomatoes and every month depending if they our up to par there starts or tomatoes are changed. Just a thought.

 

[shreddn1]

Wait

With all the scamming and quality control issues going on, should we have a thread devoted to listing scammers? Or possibly a review page for sources?



I know they have their own threads, but some are just enormous (MFL, Astro, etc...).

Just an idea.

Wait mfl and astro aren't legit? Excuse my ignorance

 

[noah_k]

He's saying the threads of both mfl and astro are enormous. MFL is having problems right now, astro isn't. Check the thread in the underground

 

[heady muscle]

He's saying the threads of both mfl and astro are enormous. MFL is having problems right now, astro isn't. Check the thread in the underground

It seems most threads of "importance" are enormous as you say. With conflicting opinions in those threads and some bantering, it is not always easy to come to a concise decision on the lab in question. But always good info and entertaining.

 

[ATOMICWEDGY]

I agree.

The frustrating part is a src can be great for quite some time, then head south.

I feel like a list of long time and proven labs would be great. But then thats probably why they are long time labs, is they are protected and not out in the open.

The list would have to be updated almost daily on the new labs/order process/gear quality, and aint nobody got time for dat.