Shoulder Building

I can't do a slow eccentric on a cheat lat raise without my lower back tightening..maybe I'll try performing then earlier in lift as opposed to at the end
 
You all need to pipe the fuck down for starters let me break this down... We all know theres 3 muscle heads/bellies in the delt. Ok so if you want 3D delts your going to have to focus on each head and even focus more so on the rear delt, the rear delt is one of the smallest muscles in the body also one of the hardest to isolate. So your going to want to put a little extra attention on that area, while not overlooking other heads. In my opinion starting with rear delts each shoulder workout will help you dramatically. Also with shoulders weight shouldnt be your primary focus. Try something like this for 3-4 weeks.
2-3 rear delt exercises
1 mid or lateral head exercise but do 5-7 sets
1 pressing movement use a machine press imo
1 front delt movement so ez bar underhand front raise or db front raises
 
Pec dec rear delt fly underhand grip and try and keep your elbows up during this exercise! Do not come so far back you pinch your rhomboids together!!!!! That's working your back not your delts!!! I like rope face pulls or rear delt dumbbell flys too. Again don't fucking pinch your rhomboids together control the movement don't jerk your self like a damn fish
 
I've found that lateral raises with a cable machine set at the bottom gives me a great pump and it allows me to keep tension on the delt through the whole range of motion; a lot more so than dumbell raises for sure. I have gotten great results from keeping the weight relatively low and keeping the form real strict , stoping when parallel to the floor at the top of the movement, and controlling it slowly all the way down to the hip.
 
For side laterals, concentrate on using your elbows to lift the weight. Also, don't go too high or your traps will take over.
 
been really trying to focus in on my delts recently..i want them to fucken pop like goku from dragonball z. im 6-3 225-230 with long arms got a 6-8 wingspan. my overhead DB press is solid i hit 110's for 6-8.

problem is..........

on my lat raises i feel like my traps take over and then the middle of my neck starts burning up..i switched to single arm lat raises (seated) and dropped my weight to 30lb dumbbells and made sure my forearm-upper arm angle was 90 degrees. this felt a lot better

on db front raises i feel like my biceps get more fatigued than my front delts due to my arm length..

anyone got tips for long limbed lifters and building the front/middle delts? my rear delts are solid from back workout and i can iso those a lot easier..thanks pimps
My traps activate when I do side laterals. For me there is no way around it. What I discovered over a year ago was to use cables when I do my sides. I did a little research cuz I wanted my Delts to be a little more rounded. What I found was a spread by Dennis wolf who imo has some of the best Delts in the business, says doing sides for 5 sets of 20 are cash money. I tried it and have not really went back from it. I do change up the rep range tho. I too live in the pump and I got the best of both worlds with the advise from wolf. "By way of muscle mag I think"... My Delts have rounded and I look more symmetrical now. Some of the best Boulder gains I got in ten years of lifting. Also, dum bells are great cuz the weight is allways above your shoulders, as with a bar the weight is focused primarily on the front delt. Just food for thought. Keep getting them gains and kicking ass bro!!!
 
I've always had some pretty nice shoulders but it's probably because they're one of my favorite muscles to exercise. I usually warm up with some front DB raises with moderate to light weight, then I do seated Over head dumbbell presses starting heavy and drop set for a good 8 sets trying to get about 8-12 reps each. After the drop set I like to do some heavy barbell military press for about 5 sets then seated military press on the smith machine. After all that I wrap it up with a few sets of upward rows and some more front raises and my delts are officially fried.
 
i don't know about anyone else, but certain shoulder workouts really fucking hurt, its like something is wrong with my rotator cuff... its not the usual burn from a good pump, it feels like injury style shit, so there's certain movements i can't hit. anyone else got this problem ?
 
i don't know about anyone else, but certain shoulder workouts really fucking hurt, its like something is wrong with my rotator cuff... its not the usual burn from a good pump, it feels like injury style shit, so there's certain movements i can't hit. anyone else got this problem ?

Being an athlete most of my life, I have made a bad habit out of "playing through the pain", and trying to differentiate between being "hurt" and being "injured". As a result my rotator cuff injury has taken 9 months to heal when it could have taken about 3 probably. I kept training with pain, thinking that my body would eventually adapt to it and fix itself out of necessity lol. Big surprise, it didn't. Do yourself a favor and avoid the movements that cause sharp pain, keep reps high and weight low, stretch, ice after training and be patient. Oh and also don't overdo the NSAID like a lot of people do. That shit can really fuck up your stomach if your not careful.
 
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