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[roofer22]

Ordered from SSA got tracking number and it said that package USPS is awaiting package by partner shipping company and said the package departed from said shipping company but it’s been a week and it hasn’t gotten it yet. That doesn’t make sense because it said that the partner company was in New York City so there’s no way that there’s not a USPS in New York City.

That's normal. I've had them not update till the day they were delivered.

 

[Alex27]

Hi everyone, sorry to bother but I wanted to know a piece of information, how did you find with this source with peptides and oils and tablets?

 

[Training till failure]

Placed an order for tren hex the 10th of July and still no tracking...

 

[AllGoodThings]

That's only true for vials that have been terminally sterilized. That is, sterilized after the vials are sealed, using heat or radiation.

Pharma does that. UGLs and homebrewers don't, They just filter sterilize, like you are.

So transferring oils from one vial to another, assuming both are sealed and sterile, and a sterile process is used, should not affect long term storage shelf life? My concern is the same as the post you were replying to here, that by piercing the stopper, it somehow starts some countdown timer. I imagine this belief assumes sterility is compromised by this by either the introduction of bacteria or by a compromised stopper seal? I plan to use a thinner gauge needle to insure that the stopper reseals itself fully, so instead of an 18g maybe a 23g. Would a filter be necessary, or only needed if there is some assumed contaminant already present?

 

[newguy2]

So transferring oils from one vial to another, assuming both are sealed and sterile, and a sterile process is used, should not affect long term storage shelf life? My concern is the same as the post you were replying to here, that by piercing the stopper, it somehow starts some countdown timer. I imagine this belief assumes sterility is compromised by this by either the introduction of bacteria or by a compromised stopper seal? I plan to use a thinner gauge needle to insure that the stopper reseals itself fully, so instead of an 18g maybe a 23g. Would a filter be necessary, or only needed if there is some assumed contaminant already present?

Are we talking about transferring CN oils? I think the main purpose is to filter, getting them into new/clean vials is secondary.

If you're taking the time to draw it out of an old one why not push it in the new one through a filter. I know some of the CN stuff I got have visible floaters. Looks like dust or whatever.

 

[Photon]

So transferring oils from one vial to another, assuming both are sealed and sterile, and a sterile process is used, should not affect long term storage shelf life? My concern is the same as the post you were replying to here, that by piercing the stopper, it somehow starts some countdown timer. I imagine this belief assumes sterility is compromised by this by either the introduction of bacteria or by a compromised stopper seal? I plan to use a thinner gauge needle to insure that the stopper reseals itself fully, so instead of an 18g maybe a 23g. Would a filter be necessary, or only needed if there is some assumed contaminant already present?

If you transfer vials, you should refilter.
You can get one of these seals (Tho I've not tried)

Sterile Barrier Vial Seals, Tamper Indicating Seal, 20mm, Silver, 20 Seals

Sterile Barrier Vial Seals, Tamper Indicating Seal, 20mm, Silver. Allows you to safely travel with your insulin or other type vials. Stores 2 Glass Serum Vials. Up to 12 hours of cooling time.

www.medical-and-lab-supplies.com

 

[AllGoodThings]

Are we talking about transferring CN oils? I think the main purpose is to filter, getting them into new/clean vials is secondary.

If you're taking the time to draw it out of an old one why not push it in the new one through a filter. I know some of the CN stuff I got have visible floaters. Looks like dust or whatever.

No, I'm talking about domestic oil from a very trusted source who over fills his vials so the stoppers are in contact with the oil, and in turn benzyl benzoate, which is a bad idea for long term storage. I typically don't mess with CN oils, personally

 

[AllGoodThings]

If you transfer vials, you should refilter.
You can get one of these seals (Tho I've not tried)

Sterile Barrier Vial Seals, Tamper Indicating Seal, 20mm, Silver, 20 Seals

Sterile Barrier Vial Seals, Tamper Indicating Seal, 20mm, Silver. Allows you to safely travel with your insulin or other type vials. Stores 2 Glass Serum Vials. Up to 12 hours of cooling time.

www.medical-and-lab-supplies.com

I've been waiting for these to come in stock for months now, no luck. Couldn't find them anywhere else, either.

Edit: looks like they're available in a few places now, but in rolls of 1000.

 

[Photon]

I've been waiting for these to come in stock for months now, no luck. Couldn't find them anywhere else, either.

I found this by randomly googling, but its 1000 seals lmao

https://www.medidose.com/steri-tampvialseals.aspx

 

[AllGoodThings]

I found this by randomly googling, but its 1000 seals lmao

https://www.medidose.com/steri-tampvialseals.aspx

Thank you. I actually just found that one, and a few others, all in 1000 piece quantities. I'll have to decide if it's worth it

 

[newguy2]

No, I'm talking about domestic oil from a very trusted source who over fills his vials so the stoppers are in contact with the oil, and in turn benzyl benzoate, which is a bad idea for long term storage. I typically don't mess with CN oils, personally

Wiser man than I. I couldn't resist the cheap prices. But there in the long term stash and I'll use the domestic stuff while I can.

Now you have me wanting to make sure I don't have any over filled. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[AllGoodThings]

Wiser man than I. I couldn't resist the cheap prices. But there in the long term stash and I'll use the domestic stuff while I can.

Now you have me wanting to make sure I don't have any over filled. Thanks for the heads up.

The prices are definitely difficult to pass up. I did get about 30 test E vials from a Chinese supplier, but those are backups to my backups lol. As for the over filled vials, I've only found one of the four domestic sources I've bought from to have this "issue". The rest have plenty of clearance. I've purchased a bunch of vials with PTFE stoppers, which are highly chemically resistant, and plan to transfer everything over to those. The "how" is what I'm trying to figure out now. Trying to do everything possible to make these oils last as long as is possible. MCT oil (fully saturated means much lower oxidation risk), PTFE stoppers, filled as much as possible without stopper contact (less air=less oxidation), stored in a cool place with minimal temperature fluctuations and zero light.

 

[The Answ3r]

Received my HGH order - 24iu green tops from the June promo. Today I’m finishing my Lobster HGH, and tomorrow I’ll start the SSA batch. I’m honestly curious to see how clean it is, since a lot of people say some weird stuff floats around in it after mixing with bac water.

 

[newguy2]

The prices are definitely difficult to pass up. I did get about 30 test E vials from a Chinese supplier, but those are backups to my backups lol. As for the over filled vials, I've only found one of the four domestic sources I've bought from to have this "issue". The rest have plenty of clearance. I've purchased a bunch of vials with PTFE stoppers, which are highly chemically resistant, and plan to transfer everything over to those. The "how" is what I'm trying to figure out now. Trying to do everything possible to make these oils last as long as is possible. MCT oil (fully saturated means much lower oxidation risk), PTFE stoppers, filled as much as possible without stopper contact (less air=less oxidation), stored in a cool place with minimal temperature fluctuations and zero light.

Sounds like a good move. I'd hate down the road to find out the stash I have needs to be tossed out for some reason.

 

[Oldhand]

Received my HGH order - 24iu green tops from the June promo. Today I’m finishing my Lobster HGH, and tomorrow I’ll start the SSA batch. I’m honestly curious to see how clean it is, since a lot of people say some weird stuff floats around in it after mixing with bac water.

Please update once you know anything- good or bad. I have had my eye on this for a while

 

[LeeroyMatinta]

Did anyone try SSA‘s reta?

 

[Ghoul]

So transferring oils from one vial to another, assuming both are sealed and sterile, and a sterile process is used, should not affect long term storage shelf life? My concern is the same as the post you were replying to here, that by piercing the stopper, it somehow starts some countdown timer. I imagine this belief assumes sterility is compromised by this by either the introduction of bacteria or by a compromised stopper seal? I plan to use a thinner gauge needle to insure that the stopper reseals itself fully, so instead of an 18g maybe a 23g. Would a filter be necessary, or only needed if there is some assumed contaminant already present?

The idea is that pharma is perfectly, 100% sterile after terminal sterilization. Any compromise of the vial could introduce bacteria that could, over time multiply to the point of causing an infection. They don't want a vial pierced and reused months later.

Sterile filtration isn't 100% effective. As a practical matter what really protects against a vial becoming overrun with bacteria is the bacteriostatic environment created by benzyl alcohol. Just use proper aseptic technique. Sterilize the stopper, use a sterile syringe, and the amount of bacteria you'd introduce into a new sterile vial is inconsequential and not going to overcome the bacteriostatic environment, A good quality stopper fully heals, but to be extra certain, there's a sterile vial sealing sticker you can use to ensure the stopper is fully sealed.

Edit: I see you found the sticker.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I have heard similar comments regarding chinese oils in general. Some people claim there may be contaminants and the cheap vials they use can be problematic. I did not want to filter and buy new vials if at all possible, but the oil is cheap enough to make it worth it I guess. I just wonder how filtering affects the shelf life. I haven't filtered oil in the past, but I know once the vial is pinned, the shelf life decreases

Oil is filtered into sterile vials dude....

That's part of the sterilization process.

 

[AllGoodThings]

The idea is that pharma is perfectly, 100% sterile after terminal sterilization. Any compromise of the vial could introduce bacteria that could, over time multiply to the point of causing an infection. They don't want a vial pierced and reused months later.

Sterile filtration isn't 100% effective. As a practical matter what really protects against a vial becoming overrun with bacteria is the bacteriostatic environment created by benzyl alcohol. Just use proper aseptic technique. Sterilize the stopper, use a sterile syringe, and the amount of bacteria you'd introduce into a new sterile vial is inconsequential and not going to overcome the bacteriostatic environment, A good quality stopper fully heals, but to be extra certain, there's a sterile vial sealing sticker you can use to ensure the stopper is fully sealed.

I'm currently trying to source those adhesive vial stopper seals in a quantity less than 1000 pieces as I don't feel like spending nearly $200 on them, but I'm OCD enough to order them if that's all I end up being able to find. I like to stack as many controllable variables in my favor as I possibly can.

 

[Photon]

The prices are definitely difficult to pass up. I did get about 30 test E vials from a Chinese supplier, but those are backups to my backups lol.

If those Chinese oils have EO (which is likely the case), it is likely they will not last as long as the other oils you have. EO has a much shorter shelf life, same for GSO.

The idea is that pharma is perfectly, 100% sterile after terminal sterilization. Any compromise of the vial could introduce bacteria that could, over time multiply to the point of causing an infection. They don't want a vial pierced and reused months later.

How is this done for pharmaceutical peps that can't handle heat? Gamma radiation?