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Honestly, if a picnic cooler size freezer preserves 5% potency of your peptide stash over the course of a year in storage, that's well worth $700-800 to a lot of hobbyists.

A lot of guys don't want their stash in the fridge or household freezer either.

If rHGH ever ends up going the way of Primo, not an impossibility, it'll really be worth having a means of very long term storage.
Yeah, I didn't want the temperature fluctuations from it being opened dozens of times a day, or the jostling that happens if they get bumped. With its own fridge freezer, it only gets opened when it's time to take something, and the freezer pretty much never gets opened
 
Honestly, if a picnic cooler size freezer preserves 5% potency of your peptide stash over the course of a year in storage, that's well worth $700-800 to a lot of hobbyists.

A lot of guys don't want their stash in the fridge or household freezer either.

If rHGH ever ends up going the way of Primo, not an impossibility, it'll really be worth having a means of very long term storage.

Primo prices are overpriced..people just need to get it from India pharma but that's a different topic. So far I'm still on Q's HGH, hopefully they do get back on their feet and start producing it early 2026. The only products they produced were HGH anyways. They were simply resellers for everything else.
 
Primo prices are overpriced..people just need to get it from India pharma but that's a different topic. So far I'm still on Q's HGH, hopefully they do get back on their feet and start producing it early 2026. The only products they produced were HGH anyways. They were simply resellers for everything else.
these indian pseudo pharma resellers is getting rich selling all the nandrolone tren primo mast that isnt coming out of china
 
There are 2 pathways for lyophilized proteins to degrade. Photo or chemical.

Obviously out of light to prevent photo degradation.

The colder it is, the slower chemical degradation is. By -80c it's almost completely stopped, and even 5% degradation after 10 years is unlikely. -80c is the long term storage temp every commercial peptide lab recommends.
So lyophilized HGH can be stored in the freezer? I was under the wrong impression when I initially looked into that. I thought refrigerated temps only. Any degradation moving from the freezer to a refrigerator for storage?
 
Primo prices are overpriced..people just need to get it from India pharma but that's a different topic. So far I'm still on Q's HGH, hopefully they do get back on their feet and start producing it early 2026. The only products they produced were HGH anyways. They were simply resellers for everything else.

QSC didn't really "manufacture" rHGH. They produced the finished product by taking raw rHGH, adding mannitol, and lyophilizing it. This did give them a big price advantage over other vendors at the time.

Interestingly Tracy's chemist initially used a more complex excipient formula, but it lowered purity, so they switched to mannitol only.

Knowing what I know now, that excipient formula probobly kept rHGH more stable, but the short term purity test was more important for competing, so the product was downgraded to get a better number.

I read the process of a pharma company developing a new rHGH excipient formula, and they accept that some excipients will cause slight reduction in purity, with the tradeoff being much better stability after reconstitution.

Finally, a couple of sources have said there's only one supplier for rHGH bulk raws to all UGLs, GenSci's "Somatropin Industrial Park", a sprawling manufacturing complex that produces rHGH raw materials in huge quantities. This makes a lot more sense than some small operation trying to produce one of the most complex pharma molecules from a basement operation in a cost efficient way. Easy to slip a kilo, 3 million iu's, out of the back door of a place like this.

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just because i have enough for 10 years at 8iu who says i wont double it and go for acromangely rush in 5 years!

I'D definitely buy that -86C freezer I've been eyeing on ebay, best excuse I can think of to spend that kind of money on one.

I only started GH for the first time this past March, and have been happy (for results) and sad (for my bank account) that my experimentation so far has shown I can tolerate 18iu/day with almost no noticeable side effects at all. I've settled on 12iu as a personally workable cost/benefit dose, but would definitely go higher if I could. Might bump to 14iu for a few months as I'm dealing with a ruptured tendon at the moment.

Tbh GH isn't really a huge part of my journey

"Nice to have not need to have"

Don't get me wrong, I like GH and some other peptides, just nothing I'd bend over backward dancing with ChatGPT on how to store a decade's worth

If that shit went away I wouldn't be heartbroken
 
QSC didn't really "manufacture" rHGH. They produced the finished product by taking raw rHGH, adding mannitol, and lyophilizing it. This did give them a big price advantage over other vendors at the time.

Whether its true or not, nobody knows.


 
Whether its true or not, nobody knows.



I had this discussion with him.

By "raw" he meant exactly what I said. They took rHGH monomer and blended it with excipients to make the "raw" liquid. Then they lyophilized it.

They didn't spend millions of dollars building a recombinant lab to inject DNA into cells to produce rHGH.
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QSC was never that big of an operation to support such an expense, when the ingredients could just be purchased inexpensively,

They couldn't keep rubber particles out of oils. They certainly weren't conducting one of the most complex precision manufacturing processes in the world.
 
Whether its true or not, nobody knows.



When you can't ask ChatGPT, just make shit up

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and assume no one would actually do some footwork

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Whether its true or not, nobody knows.


Look at the last 6 months of purity results on their reports. I put it in one post.
 
When you can't ask ChatGPT, just make shit up

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and assume no one would actually do some footwork

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To QSC manufacturing the "Raw" was mixing excipients with bulk rHGH monomer, then lyophilizing it. Other vendors at the time were buying finished product.

QSC got access to the same unfinished rHGH monomer Lobster started selling around the time QSC started "manufacturing".

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Only an idiot would believe the crew that couldn't keep floaters out of oil vials, despite repeated attempts over a year, and struggled to lower 40% variances in tablets, was injecting DNA into E. coli to produce rHGH monomer and going through the purification steps to separate it from its host protein, requiring at least 10 full time highly skilled techs and a million in equipment to produce small batches.

There's something especially stupid and dull that seems common with a lot of guys that were big fans of tren made from cattle pellets. Probably something toxic in the polymer binders that killed off parts of your brains. Or maybe it's just the broadly predicted early cognitive decline from tren's neurotoxicity finally showing up in long term users north of 50.
 
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Look at the Administration Route. This is not a product an average steroid user would be doing. These are usually done in a outpatient clinic hooked up to an iv.
Thanks for your feedback.
It isn't in many cases possible for an underground lab to manufacture a 'Monoclonal Anitbody', but they may have access to the labs that do.
IV administration is often used for the Clinical/Research trials, this is often the case and many monoclonal antibody treatments are formulated for Subq injections for retail.

Though unlikely, it would be amazing to have something like this from the underground.
 
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