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So what is your 'why'? Of all the hobbies one might have, what makes you dedicate so much time to training, physique, nutrition, etc.?
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iris
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Spot on
So, in your experience, did you guys have more girls and better quality when you’re out of shape than when fit and jacked?
That is delusional and unrealistic lol. In my small experience, as my physique improved the quality and quantity of girls followed suit.
Hence, the tendency of seeing couples who are mostly matched physique wise/physically is higher compared to complete opposites. What is that common phrase, birds of the same feather blah blah.
That is delusional and unrealistic lol. In my small experience, as my physique improved the quality and quantity of girls followed suit.
Hence, the tendency of seeing couples who are mostly matched physique wise/physically is higher compared to complete opposites. What is that common phrase, birds of the same feather blah blah.
Before I was married, I paid -zero- attention to my physique and ranged from slightly fat to skinny fat. I did very well with women. I paid the most attention to being attentive, clean-cut, intellectual but not annoying, and confident.
My wife has always been petite. I would not say "fit" per se but she's thin and small. I, on the other hand have been all sorts of shapes and sizes. I used to be a 145 lb triathlete, to a 180 lb skinny-fat, to a 190 lb big grappler, to a 210 lb lean and jacked bb. She literally does not care at all about it. The only thing she ever comments on is my weight and to be sure I am healthy. If she had to pick a physique, it'd be my 145 skinny or 180 skinny-fat.
I can count the number of times my physique has been complimented by women on fewer than one hand - but I get comments literally daily by men, whether it's family, friends, guys on the mat, at the gym, etc. I had to tell the guys at BJJ to STFU about it because it became irritating to hear every day.
iris
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Do you mind if I drag this here, so I don't get the haters on the thread you posted it on?
egruberman
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Oh man, this is my life now. I had a produce guy tell me I had an amazing body. Some dude literally grabbed me last week and complimented my arms. I get long lingering looks from other dudes, especially ones that are also in good shape. I've only been obviously "jacked" for less than a year and I've maybe caught a glance from women and nobody has said anything at all.
I think that says a couple things, gender roles and cultural conditioning among them. I doubt many women would feel safe saying something even if they were thinking it. Also, to some degree, I think physical attractiveness matters less to most women, even though I think it's still more important than many would expect.
Do you think all girls will prefer a skinny fat guy/fat blob over someone who eats healthy, takes care of themselves and has the discipline and drive to stay in shape?
Because in my circle most women are like men, they would always try to date those who are more in shape. Maybe, it’s different where you’re from.
Guys will always appreciate other guys who are better shape than them because it’s what good bros do, there is no risk to it.
egruberman
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I think for most it's a different set or priorities. That is to say, I think there are more men that would pursue certain women based purely on physical attractiveness. Likely, there's a much smaller ratio of women that would pursue certain men based purely on physical attractiveness.
narta
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I am gonna chime in here, like an unwanted fart.
Being in shape or jacked is not exclusive of taking care of yourself and being healthy. You can be average Joe, but still be healthy. Women prefer financial security, empathy and someone they can communicate with.
You can be the most jacked attractive man in the world, but manners maketh man.
egruberman
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I was a huge fatass at some point and didn't have any problems finding partners. Being more physically attractive allowed for more "introductions" but beyond that it mattered very little.
Lol, when you include wealth in the equation, then we’re not talking physical attraction anymore, you’re throwing a major factor in the mix.
Anyway, like I said in my experience and where I am from even in school, the prom queen doesn’t usually date the fat or skinny guy but the prom king who is attractive and in shape or the athletes get the hot cheerleaders.
There are exceptions of course, if you are funny, play in a band or have charisma then that changes.
But I guess, I am the minority here.
What women say (about the importance of male physique):
What women do:
Your challenge if you believe women don't care about the male physique: find me a romance novel with a dad bod on the cover.
What women do:
Your challenge if you believe women don't care about the male physique: find me a romance novel with a dad bod on the cover.
That’s beside the point of the question.
What you do afterwards is irrelevant.
Do you think women would be attracted to a 300lb overweight guy than someone who is around 15%bf with muscle? No other factors behind since the topic here is just physical attributes.
narta
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You are not wrong. You are right, just the age bracket you are referring is the 16-late 20ish one. After that, criteria shift from strictly looks, to other things and looks. Sure a successful male with manners and humor WITH a nice physique will edge out the equally successful dad bod, but an average blue collar guy with a nice bod, but stuck in the jacked jockey mentality will lose to the latter dad bod but more mature and secure guy.
Can you be both? Sure. Can you excel in you career, as a social animal and be a dedicated gymrat? Nope. Gymrats tend to go to extremes due to body dysmorphia and has a profound impact in other aspects of their life.
But you can always be the toned, "he definitely hits the gym and it shows" guy
egruberman
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In a vacuum with nothing other than physical attributes? Sure, but that rarely happens outside of tinder.
iris
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PaintDrinker
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1 hour 5 nights a week isn't something I would consider a lot of time. I don't even go to the gym. Lifting weights is just a fun hobby, whenever I take it to seriously it loses it's magic. Sometimes too much structure can be counterproductive for me. Get a pump, have fun that's how I do.
PaintDrinker
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Ever since I got big only dudes check me out
Hence, some of us had our spring break fun and clubbing days of shallow one night stands because of six packs lol.
Thank you for acknowledging reality. No one said the male physique is at the top of women's priority list, certainly not above things like finances, status, confidence, humor, etc.
If you're going to claim physique is not even on this list with everything else, that I have a problem with.
