Some advice needed on blood results

[Synergistic]

Hey guys, I recently ordered a blood test to check my test, e2, LSH and FSH levels. Before this test, I ran a Test E @ 400 MG/ wk cycle with nolvadex as PCT, and ran AI @ 12.5mg e3d. I got my results in today and was quite surprised to see my testosterone at a shocking 341! My LSH and FSH also look really bad compared to the reference range Labcorp provides.. my balls aren't working properly? I'm 25 years old and have not had any symptoms of lethargy or libido issues. I was just checking it to have a baseline reference frame going into my next cycle. It's been about 2.5 months since finishing my PCT.
All help is appreciated!

 

[Eman]

What were your testosterone levels before your cycle?

How long after last pin did you wait to start PCT?

What time was it when you pulled these bloods?

 

[Synergistic]

This is where i fucked up. I've never done bloodwork to check my test prior to my first cycle. This was my first cycle btw. I waited 14days after last pin. Time was 1pm and I was on a empty stomach.

I have 5000iu of quality HCG that I'm going to run on cycle @ 500 IUs a week during my cycle of test e and tbol. Can this fix my hypogonadism?

 

[Synergistic]

What's weird is my low test levels.. I have 0 signs of low test, and when I train I have high intensity and good strength.

 

[Sdryx]

There is no cycle that will help your balls. It will do the exact opposite.

If you are feeling completely fine then I would not be too concerned about numbers. They will likely get better over time.

If you are concerned about the numbers, then research what you are doing then kid. You have no clue; thinking another cycle will help your balls, and a nolva only pct??? You need to start reading again from scratch for another year or 3 before you touch this stuff again.

 

[Eman]

This is where i fucked up. I've never done bloodwork to check my test prior to my first cycle. This was my first cycle btw. I waited 14days after last pin. Time was 1pm and I was on a empty stomach.

I have 5000iu of quality HCG that I'm going to run on cycle @ 500 IUs a week during my cycle of test e and tbol. Can this fix my hypogonadism?

1. You started PCT too early.
2. You drew bloods too late in the day.
3. You probably drew bloods too soon post cycle given that you started PCT too soon.
4. I am not a fan of Nolva only PCT, clomid only is better if using a single compound.

IMO, PCT start time is the most common mistake people make when they don't recover. In your case, you may already be recovered most of the way... You don't know because you didn't get baseline bloodwork. At least you know it was a fuck up...

I would hold off for several more weeks and pull new bloods if you're concerned about it. You're not having low test symptoms so I would venture to guess your test levels weren't a whole lot higher than your bloodwork shows, pulling them first thing in the AM would have likely shown better results.

 

[Synergistic]

There is no cycle that will help your balls. It will do the exact opposite.

If you are feeling completely fine then I would not be too concerned about numbers. They will likely get better over time.

If you are concerned about the numbers, then research what you are doing then kid. You have no clue; thinking another cycle will help your balls, and a nolva only pct??? You need to start reading again from scratch for another year or 3 before you touch this stuff again.

Lol bro, I can assure you ive done my research. My reasoning for not using Clomid is due to the emotional sides. If you read some studies, you can see that nolva does a fine job in recovering from a relatively mild cycle. You realize my first cycle was mild right? I took 3 months off hormones post cycle and feel great now. I'm just curious about the numbers.

 

[Sdryx]

Lol bro, I can assure you ive done my research. My reasoning for not using Clomid is due to the emotional sides. If you read some studies, you can see that nolva does a fine job in recovering from a relatively mild cycle. You realize my first cycle was mild right? I took 3 months off hormones post cycle and feel great now. I'm just curious about the numbers.

Your numbers might have been better if you were more concerned about your balls than your emotional sides... nolva only???

You’ve done your research but still can’t figure out half-lives correctly to start your pct at the right time? You have a calculator right???

Like I said, research MORE!

 

[Synergistic]

1. You started PCT too early.
2. You drew bloods too late in the day.
3. You probably drew bloods too soon post cycle given that you started PCT too soon.
4. I am not a fan of Nolva only PCT, clomid only is better if using a single compound.

IMO, PCT start time is the most common mistake people make when they don't recover. In your case, you may already be recovered most of the way... You don't know because you didn't get baseline bloodwork. At least you know it was a fuck up...

I would hold off for several more weeks and pull new bloods if you're concerned about it. You're not having low test symptoms so I would venture to guess your test levels weren't a whole lot higher than your bloodwork shows, pulling them first thing in the AM would have likely shown better results.

Thank you for the constructive critism, everything you stated makes perfect sense.. I did research and read nolva recovered people just fine on test cycles and also read a few articles. Looks like I should have went the Clomid nolva route. It is highly possible that even before cycle my test was only around 400-450.. I feel the same right now as I've always felt in the last few years.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

Hey guys, I recently ordered a blood test to check my test, e2, LSH and FSH levels. Before this test, I ran a Test E @ 400 MG/ wk cycle with nolvadex as PCT, and ran AI @ 12.5mg e3d. I got my results in today and was quite surprised to see my testosterone at a shocking 341! My LSH and FSH also look really bad compared to the reference range Labcorp provides.. my balls aren't working properly? I'm 25 years old and have not had any symptoms of lethargy or libido issues. I was just checking it to have a baseline reference frame going into my next cycle. It's been about 2.5 months since finishing my PCT.
All help is appreciated!

Hey guys, I recently ordered a blood test to check my test, e2, LSH and FSH levels. Before this test, I ran a Test E @ 400 MG/ wk cycle with nolvadex as PCT, and ran AI @ 12.5mg e3d. I got my results in today and was quite surprised to see my testosterone at a shocking 341! My LSH and FSH also look really bad compared to the reference range Labcorp provides.. my balls aren't working properly? I'm 25 years old and have not had any symptoms of lethargy or libido issues. I was just checking it to have a baseline reference frame going into my next cycle. It's been about 2.5 months since finishing my PCT.
All help is appreciated!

Everything looks good. Your LH and FSH could be higher if stimulated with Clomid plus your test would increase a bit

 

[EcpertRealistic]

my balls aren't working properly?

The smaller they get from the use of steroids, the less they will put out. Hcg can increase their size at 500ius/week but will shut down the hpta (the one that produces LH and FSH )

You stimulate the hpta with Clomid and naloxone

 

[Synergistic]

The smaller they get from the use of steroids, the less they will put out. Hcg can increase their size at 500ius/week but will shut down the hpta (the one that produces LH and FSH )

You stimulate the hpta with Clomid and naloxone

I see. So danger zone if i decide to just run my cycle and follow up with a Clomid nolva with good dosing protocol? Cant run a SERM on cycle soo..

 

[Sdryx]

I see. So danger zone if i decide to just run my cycle and follow up with a Clomid nolva with good dosing protocol? Cant run a SERM on cycle soo..

Please stop listening to that idiot. He’s Meso’s new clown pretending to be helpful.

Listen to him, and your health will surely take a plunge.

 

[Synergistic]

So I'll go ahead and wait a few weeks and re test.. final question, would it be okay to run HCG whenever I do decide to start my cycle? Or should I skip it? To me having my testes functioning throughout the cycle sounds good to me.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

So I'll go ahead and wait a few weeks and re test.. final question, would it be okay to run HCG whenever I do decide to start my cycle? Or should I skip it? To me having my testes functioning throughout the cycle sounds good to me.

Hcg during cycle is OK. Hcg as pct not the best idea unless you have an invincible hpta (wish you don't at this time because your LH and FSH is low)

Honestly I would go on clean diet and get your fat lower naturally to see if that help you raise your natural testosterone production , LH and FSH.

At this time you are borderline trt considering those numbers. Obviously you just finished a cycle not long ago. You may want to recuperate as much as you can before running another one. Unless you willing to go the trt route.


Don't listen Sdryx. He will get you going on circles forever with his unconverted half answers

 

[MindlessWork]

Don't listen Sdryx. He will get you going on circles forever with his unconverted half answers

Come again? @Sdryx called you out and your advice is rather shitty if not outright dangerous. Get the fuck out with that shit.

Please stop listening to that idiot. He’s Meso’s new clown pretending to be helpful.

Listen to him, and your health will surely take a plunge.

Exactly this and your health is very important too OP.