Some of my favorite quotes of doggcrapp link...

"I learned long ago that if you have troublesome triceps, extension movements (outside of nosebreakers) seem to be a huge waste of valuable time. Ive pounded away at rest paused --close grip benches on the smythe, reverse grip benches on the smythe and heavy higher rep nosebreakers consistently and turned my triceps into one of my best bodyparts. I previously tried every concievable extension exercise with heavy weights, lighter weights or higher reps but heavy etc etc.. and (for me at least) they were absolutely useless (especially pushdowns--they sure feel and look like they are working but the tape measure never changes)"
 
"No that was a hypothetical example. Im advising you get your freaking head on straight if you want this so bad. That means extreme food intake pronto, with the heaviest weights in good form that you can use progressively, extreme stretching and enough cardio that it keeps you at a leaness your satisfied with as you get dramatically larger. "
 
Talking about his lack of bicep peak

"Trust me skip, Ive dieted down twice for shows (before pulling out due to overwhelming work priorities) twice before and it doesnt get much better than whats seen. True story-Im walking out of the gym one day and this mother (no not a MILF JIM!)and her 2 little boys are there--one says"wow your big make a muscle!"--I pulled up my sleeve and flexed the pipe and the kid goes "Flex!"....I said "I am!"....him:"no your not"....me"yes i am!!!".......I walked away with my tail between my legs and decided at that point forward if I ever get asked that question again, Im going to drop my sweats and hit a quad shot, I dont care if its in church."
 
"DC: the second thing the cruise does is get the mindset back, the appetite back and heal all aches and pains. By the end of the two weeks cruise these guys are going absolutely bonkers sometimes for me to let go of the reigns so they can start bombing away again. It makes for an incredible blasting again because they are pushing so hard out of the gate. I get this from Joey in an email today and it just made me laugh
Joey:"Mentally I feel like a ticking time bomb. I watch the days roll off the calender until I get to train heavy again. I look at the hack squat machine in the gym thinking "Yeah, 11 days and it's you and me, bitch".

Its that kind of pissed off attitude at the equipment in the gym that alot of people should develop. Make it personal. Make it a war. You against them. When you walk into the gym, you have 5 exercises your going to conquer and destroy."
 
"Note to self: things to do

1)Website
2)Write that book that everyone wants me to write so all this stuff wont be so jumbled up
3)Send xmas cards to everyone I refused to train because I know I pissed off alot of people (its 100% my way or no way with the people I train personally or I walk)
4)Never train legs with MassiveG or Ill be fetching 45's all day long for him. I feel my quads are one of my better bodyparts but i might feel like Frank Zane standing next to Tom Platz comparing thighs--I dont need the ego hit
5)Look for any loose change that might be hidden in Silverbacks back double bicep shot
6)Get my Trueprotein.com business partner to stop freebasing Ion Exchange Whey protein CFM in his office.
7) Finally get the penile extension so my wife can throw horseshoes at me (some kind of fetish she has)
8) make sure those pictures I took when I was young and needed the money for "Loins Ablaze" magazine never make it to the viewing public.
9)finish up the damn articles Im supposed to write for the various bbing mags and outlets
10)Watch babygetoboys move from Detroit to Southern California and then live my life vicariously thru him as he "tags more ass than a cattle prod"
11)Gather everyone together in this forum to perform an intervention to confront Inhuman on his addiction to protein. The scraping up of roadkill "Dante Im upping the protein bro" on route 405 near Lake Forest Drive in Irvine has got to stop!
12)Finally get down to growing that mullet I want to grow--a certified "Kentucky waterfall"
13)hook this computer up right so the toilets stop flushing everytime I hit the tab key
14) find out who this Doggcrapp guy is and starting DC training myself
15) trade in my 13 awards for "Muscle Mayhems idiot of the month" to chad for a t-shirt
16) make sure i dont get bitchslapped by Richard Simmons
17) Ill take antiestablishmental totalitarianism and asian sluts for 500 Alex and I would like to buy a vowel
18) stop clogging the epilady when I shave my back
19) Get the owner of the all you can eat buffet down the street to somehow like me and welcome me there
20) Write my congressman to enact a law that arrests and prosecutes anyone that does a 2-3 inch range of motion leg press, hack squat or regular squat or that tells you they have "a nephew who is 19 and about your size or a little bit bigger and he benches 600 and has 27 inches arms".
 
"Or the constant complaining like "christ i used to incline press (*yea with a 8 inch bounce and your partner pulling up 40lbs of it) 225x6 and now with controlling the descent I was only able to do 185 x 8 first time out---well shucks Bucky welcome to the world of lifting correctly to actually gain muscle mass. Guess what? Im going to make you so strong in such a short time that your old poundages will be a distant memory and even better you're training partner wont be getting bigger biceps spotting you and you wont be cheating your ass off doing it. "
 
FH coined the phrase "clusterfuck" training and I have to just sit back and laugh when I see that post on bodybuilding.com "MY 5x5, HST, DFT, DFST, DC, Westside Hybrid" .....Huh? 6 months down the road how the hell do you know what actually worked and what didnt? Talk about overanalyzing your buck 63 ass off. "
 
" Nothing is sadder to me then some guy 205lbs who lifts for 5-6 years and is weighing 208lbs now. You just did all those workouts and all that time for 3 measly lbs? If anyone I personally train is gaining bodyfat 90% of the time they are skipping the 20-30 min cardio sessions i have them do 2-3 times a week or cheating after carb cuttoffs more than they are telling me. "
 
I cant even fathom how much food it takes me to maintain 280-300lbs, so I sure as heck know how much food it took me to get here. Its those 5-7 meals consistently eaten every day (even when your not hungry) repeatedly over weeks and months and years that will get you there-not the exotic compound you feel is missing from your juice stack or that you think your current training regimen might be off. If you dont have the ability to forcefeed yourself at times when you arent even remotely hungry--you are not going to make it to the upper echelons of size in this sport.

d)Your job is to find foods you can eat when your not even hungry. For me I have 3 staples that I use when Im not hungry but need to get a meal in.
1)The standard protein drink
2)chicken wings--think about it--lets say your watching a football game and your not hungry in the least but you look up and realize its now going on 3.5 hours since your last meal and your not even going to get in 5 meals today if you miss this one. You most likely arent going to be able to down a steak meal but how hard is it to gnaw at a whole bunch of chicken wings for the next 30 minutes. Before youll know it you will have 30 wings down the hatch and wont have to eat anything else with it and you made it thru that meal
3)minestrone soup--how hard is it to devour soup? If your full as hell and you dont even want to look at a peice of solid food what could you get down the hatch? SOUP. You can always get soup down there. So how do you get your protein requirements in? You add cooked ground beef (or chicken) to that soup in the amount you need. For me I love minestrone, for you it might be something different--just go with a taste that you like. One can of minestrone, add half a pound to 12 ounces of ground beef cooked and then washed off under the faucet to get rid of all the fat cooked to the surface--and your good to go "
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"Id much rather train a 200lb guy who is going to go at this 100% because he hasnt been able to get there "his way", so he is going to do everything I say to the tee.........than some 220lb guy who saw some pics online of someone I train and feels that he has to get on the bandwagon or he could be missing the boat yet is still mixed up inside in the bodybuilding route he should go. The suckiest thing about training bodybuilders for myself is having to debrainwash people and get them away from that Flex magazine "old school, spindle training, isolating the outer quadrant of section B of the pectoral with incline flyes (pinky twist), always changing exercises each workout to keep the body off balance-BULLSHIT. Which alot of times was written by a guy who is 45 and has been lifting for 25 years yet never made it over 177lbs. Always changing exercises? How many incredible mass exercises are there for quads? Five to Eight? Hacks, Leg press, Squats, and maybe lunges with a barbell on your back and then slight variations of each? They make it sound like you have 165 to choose from. If you squat 385 for 8 today and then change things up for the next 2.5 months with hacks and leg presses, one leg leg presses, lunges, front squats etc etc and then go back to a squat and get 380 x 8, have you gained anything? NO YOU JUST WASTED A FREAKING LEG WORKOUT PRETTY MUCH. If for the next 6 years you periodically squat lets say 30 times (5 times a year) and your constantly in the 370 to 390 range for 7-9 reps, are your legs going to be much larger? You sure as hell changed things up alot though, even though your quads havent gained crap. The point Im trying to get across is this "You can crap chicken into a bucket, it doesnt mean your Colonel Sanders" (Ok nevermind, I have no idea what that means, Im just very hungry and need to eat and I couldnt think of a way to end this rant in a cool way)"
 
THOSE TWO WERE KAZMIERS TRAINING PARTNERS--ARE YOU GOING TO SIT HERE ON YOUR HIGH HORSE AND TELL THIS FORUM THAT THE 3 TIME STRONGEST MAN IN THE WORLD HAD BAD TECHNIQUE!!!! Lets quit bullshitting around here. Theres alot of powerlifters out there with torn pecs and blown out knees and what did they get that from? The god damn smythe machine? NO they got it from your holy grail the bench press and the squat. This is the sport we undertake, we know the dangers of it. You might get injured and you might not god willing.....but your not going to sit here and tell me its completely safe to do the 3 core lifts and the smythe machine is evil incarnate because the evidence is overwhelming with debilitating injuries on the 3 core lifts. Does that mean Ill stop free squatting or deadlifting? No i do them still and have done so for 15 years. That risk is the consequence of succeeding in this sport. All my methods are based on theory--my theories, I have little to back them up as far as science, because science isnt interested in making 300lb bodybuilders and they dont set up protocols to prove how to make one. You have brainwashed yourself into thinking you have proven a fact because you have thought about it hard enough. You cannot 100% positively state that machines and smythe machines are debilitating because there is not a long term scientific study to prove it. Hell theres some suggestive notions that the low rep exertion in powerlifting is very damaging and thickening the left ventricle wall of the heart. Am I going to come in here and say thats a fact because some strength coach said it was or Ive brainwashed myself into thing powerlifting is bad for your heart? No, I cant do that and neither can you prove 100% that your opinion is true. For the guy who said he believe in science and not experience--Ill tell you the problem when you live and die by the science bible. You never think outside of that arena because you dont have the capacity too. Well I for one take science for what its worth, I dont channel every known facet of bodybuilding around it. Why? Because science is so full of discrepancy and has made so many mistakes over the years you would be a fool to follow it blindly. So I take about 25% science 25% theory and 50% of practical real life experience and put it together for myself. "
 
"Im not going to let the profileration of people who think they are hardcore to the bone but who are truly candyasses do this training that has my name on it--no way in hell. And Ive seen alot of that lately--too much--every lame trainer around is trying to do this kind of training now thinking its the missing link and it pisses me off. You know why your not growing? Because you are a lame trainer bottom line. You have one chance with the logbook and this is low volume training which means you have one chance at doing it right. YOU WANT TO TELL ME TO FUCK OFF FOR BEING AN ASS TO YOU THEN FINE, BUT YOU ARENT GOING TO DO MY METHODS LIKE A 13 YEAR OLD GIRLSCOUT WITHOUT ME SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT IT"
 
"My bodybuilding.com satire: Well I tried DC training for 10 days and I was highly dissapointed, not only did I not gain the 37lbs of muscle I had expected in that time but my freinds said I looked less swole in my wifebeater that I wear everywhere (mall, church, weddings, my senior reception). I changed it to a DC, HST, BFT, IOU, HIT, down with OPP, PTA, TWA, YMCA, hybrid while I did a "cutter" for 12 days to get absolutely shredded to the max. I missed my 45 sets of cable crossovers during my chest workouts which Ive been doing for 3 years with no size increase but it sure looks like it works in the mirror. I also did the DC diet which I know is nowhere online and is individualistic but I went by the basic principles of not mixing carbs and fats if you can help it and came up with this

1)captain crunch (2 cups of it-HARDCORE BABY!!!!!)

2) a piece of cheese and 4 scoops of solidified bacon fat (high protein and fats like DC recommends--I just dont like the taste of olive oil)

3)country fried steak with a pop tart (protein carbs)

4)massive weight gainer protein drink (600 grams of carbs per serving)

5)post workout-a banana sprinkled with parmesan cheese and some chocolate milk and a bowl of spaghettios with cut up sausage in it

6) depends if its a weekend nite or not--if its a weekday its usually one egg white and a huge plate of fettucine alfredo with 6 scoops of solidified bacon fat before bed. If its a weekend 14 cans of high carb beer and whatever I get at Denny's at 3am in the morning--if Im not barfing my brains out somewhere or nailing some drunk 275lb hottie from the party

All and all I am going to say DC didnt work for me and I need a massive pump with fufu exercises to grow and more importantly to look at my 167lbs like its 287lbs of monstrosity in the gym. Im presently using the Weider flushing and bombing principles both in training and while on the toilet with the above diet. Ive been on this way of training for 3 days and I can already see huge gains and Ive added probably 4 inches to my arms. I dont know how much Ive gained on my legs because I dont train them. I will do this for the next 13 days to monitor the massive results and then i will do a cutter, bulker, cutter, bulker, culker, butter (huh?)...

started lifting Jan 1 2000 at 167lbs at 10%
did a bulker for 12 days and then a cutter for the next 353 to bring out the cuts.
Bench-185
squat-dont do legs
deadlift-too hard so I do one arm seated cable rows
TOTAL=2350!!!! (NUMBERS DONT LIE--ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE!)
Presently 167lbs at 15% bodyfat"
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makes himself look like crap by saying something wasnt effective, when he wasnt doing it right in the first place, and secondly thousands of other people are gaining using the basic way this is drawn up but for some strange Stephen Hawkins flabbergasting, discovery channel special reason, Bicep Blitz cant. Well then I guess either your genetics are awful and your parents should be blamed or more likely you do your own thing in life no matter what the current successful path is. In a million years I would never train you, I would train a blind, deaf, mute skunk with no legs before you. And I would suppose every other trainer on this board would kick you to the curb so damn fast if you inquired with them it would be embarrassing. Chad, Troponin, or BodyFX would have you eating 2 grams of protein per LB of bodyweight and fluctuating carb intake and you would disagree and take in 90% baconfat with 10% cheesecurls (with the reason being because your 20 year old bicepblitz and feel its more effective)....I can spank a monkeys ass until its bright red but I sure cant call it a babboon and I can sit here and argue with you all day long about this stuff so you get it down right but its like having a conversation with a potted plant because you dont have any listening ability anyway. Heres a novel idea...since you think im arrogant and I think your irritating to the 10th degree times pi squared, how bout you dump this "I dont even know what to call it honestly" DC/BicepBlitz/Barneythedinosaur hybrid menagerie routine your doing and do your own thing totally.
 
"He essentially would become a human blast furnace. That would be the fastest way to make a 175lb natural guy a lean 250lb bodybuilder.


Can most people do that? No, its very time consuming, and incredibly hard to do consistently. People dont think in a certain context. Lets say someone weighs 175lbs and they want to be 250lbs someday (hopefully quick)---If they didnt lift, didnt do cardio and just ate huge amounts of food just so the scale shows 250lbs how long would it take to get up that 75lbs? It would take a long time. In my eyes, if you did it in one year that would be pretty incredible. AND THATS JUST PURE BODYFAT! Just think of the extremes you would have to go thru to do that same trick muscularly. Theres no way in hell you could even get close to putting on 75lbs of muscle naturally in a year unless you had "top of the line" genetics. I just like people to understand how hard it is to put on a great deal of muscle mass and how you have to "push the envelope" in eating, training and cardio to get there. Not to put down the E**** website but Ive noticed alot of people there are long time lifters 25-40 years old who have been lifting for 5-20 years. And 95% of them are in that 175lb to 215lb range still to this day. They want to make it happen but for some reason they believe they will hook on to something magical after 10 years and take off. But it never happens. Many have no clue whatsoever of the lengths someone needs to go thru to get extreme muscle mass. (mostly foodwise)--I hope some of the guys reading this paragraph think about themselves during this. Do you want to be one of those guys 10 years from now that are still the "normal" guys in the gym? The same guys year after year that look the same? Four years ago they were 192lbs and now they are 196lbs. Personally I couldnt live with that. I couldnt do 156 workouts a year for one LB of muscle--thats a waste of freaking time..."
 
"People always talk about "changing up" and "keeping the body offbalance", "variety" and never doing the same workout twice. Huh? What is there 7000 different kind of Quad exercises that I dont know about? No theres about 4-5 that are condusive to building muscle mass. How many productive different chest exercises are there? Infinity? No theres about 8-10 or so (if that). So you are going to be repeating exercises often thruout the year anyway. So if April 1st you squat and do 315 x 10 and then 4 weeks later "after changing up to keep the body off balance--LOL" you do squats again and do 295 x 11 or 315 x 10 again have you gained anything? Fuck no! Three times later after doing different leg workouts and your still squatting 315lbs or so for around the same reps you havent progressed yourself anywhere! Grab a logbook, get an exercise rotation going, hammer an exercise into oblivion until you cannot get stronger on it and then change up and go to a new exercise and do the same thing. Many people look at a machine like its the candyass way to lift compared to free weights. I take a machine and manhandle it/destroy it. I train on it until i beat the weighstack and then I chain a dumbell to it and go as far up the dumbell rack as I can go. My gym managers probaly dont like it but I havent had anything said to me yet so until then.... Its just a mindset. People look at a pecdeck machine and think of an isolation machine. I look at a pecdeck and think "Im going to turn that into a compound movement and destroy that thing" -that means put your hands on the pads and push with your hands instead of your elbows and turn that thing into a power press/flye machine --and dominate that machine"
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"I really have to post on this in detail because ive changed my views on this slightly due to the feedback from my previous competitors. But im going to put it in a nutshell here (short version)

You continue with the offseason version of your training until the point comes where the logbook starts kicking your ass (and it will come trust me--for some people its a matter of weeks and for some people they can get in a month and a half)--at that point you redo all your baseline workouts (all 6 of them, or all 9 of them like I have some of my advanced guys on the 3 way split) but when you redo your baselines you set your FIRST rest pause failure point at 12 (actually 10-12 will work) but 12 is the basic failure point. Your still going as heavy as possible but instead of failing at 7 or 8 at your first rest pause point like in the offseason your now failing at 12 (or 10-12). This makes a 8+4+2 into a 12+5+3 or something similiar to that. Basically your rest pause range is going to go from 11-15rp to 15-20rp and on other bodyparts where its normally 15-20rp its now 20-30rp. On calves instead of 5 down and 15 seconds at the stretch its now 5 down and 5 seconds at the stretch. Any dangerous exercises that you could feel you could tear something with while depleted, get replaced with something a little safer. For me seated hamstring curls can feel very dangerous for me precontest so i change that to stiff legs but all thats up to your discretion. Quads are pretty much the same as in offseason but when you reset the baselines--lighten the weight a lil bit and also reset your form which will make you lighten the weight. Example you might be at 440x6 on the squat and 300 for 20 on the smythe squat for your widowmaker in the offseason. Resetting your baseline i would go to 350 x 8 and go really deep with a pause down the bottom and make sure my form is awesome and do the same thing for 225x20 on the smythe. What all this does is set you up into a new competition with yourself going into the contest. You cannot stay with your offseason poundages all thru this, youll just get bombed out when really depleted and get bummed out that the logbook is killing you. This will allow you to reset it all and add poundages again every single workout. TRUST ME ON THIS, YOULL LOSE NO SIZE WITH THIS BECAUSE YOUR GOING TO BE INCREASING STRENGTH ALL THE WAY UP AGAIN. Youll be finding your getting very near all your offseason poundages again as you go along and keep adding weight. Ive been doing this for the last 4 competitors going into shows (including myself) and its worked great. Utmost above anything in this is the mindset that safety is of extreme importance--WE DO NOT WANT TO BE TEARING ANYTHING HERE WHILE DEPLETED SO BE SAFE!!!!. Thats why the first failure point is 12 (or 10-12) instead of 7 or 8 (or a 6) and from all the cardio your calves really get bombed out so i lessen the extended stretch on calf training too. I did all this because of what my competitors were telling me (mentally especially) and on a personal level I was very surprised how greatly all this effected my mindset--you go from feeling really bummed that your logbook is winning the war and (dammit! beating you) to a whole new lease on training life where you are back in control and destroying the enemy again."
 
"One thing to remember (and I hope Jim Paul puts this in the "quotes of DC" post) is this. To bring up weak bodyparts that means your going to have to go a little above and beyond here with those bodyparts and that means one thing--you are going to have to switch over to the 3 way split. Thats a plus in that we can really work in getting those bodyparts up to par but there is a big downside too to that, that almost everyone in this forum is overlooking. You gain faster on the M W F split. You gain slower on the 3 way Mon Tues Thur Sat split. That is fact. So remember that you guys that are so wanting to do what the big boys do because our weights are so heavy we have to do the 3 way split. People on the 2 way M W F split work bodyparts more often in a years time and grow faster than the guys doing the 3 way split. So khan this effects you. Those incredible 70lbs of muscle mass gains you just made are going to slow down now in the quest to bring up chest and back, that is what you give up in this---You rob peter to pay paul. Instead of working arms 90 times or so a year now you will be working arms around 70 times a year or so. That subtraction of 20 arm workouts is a big deal as its almost 25% less so in strict numbers that can be the difference in gaining an inch on your arms and only gaining 3/4 of an inch. And that goes for every bodypart on the body. So you can see why guys like myself, Inhuman, chris250, Dave Henry and others in this forum probably would much rather be able to do the M W F split and recover like most of you guys can"
 
"I keep having a recurring nightmare that I would like to go away--its like that "Alive" movie where the plane crashes in the mountains in south america and they have to eat the dead bodies to keep living. I keep seeing Inhuman holding some A1 steak sauce and chowing down on what looks like part of shoulder girdle with him looking up at the camera and saying "Hey!!! This tastes like chicken!"
 
"I have to be the nice guy because of Trueprotein and being the origin of this DC training stuff. But alot of times I dont want too. When I see some person doubting or saying something derogatory about what this is all about I want to say the same damn thing to them over and over--"Screw it then, go back to your flex mag crap, or go back to whatever you were doing, this isnt for you-GOODBYE". Do you know why I can say that? Because I've grown overconfident at how well it works. Dont read my words wrong here....this isnt me saying "ive invented something so great that....." its me getting frustrated with people who just cant grasp the fucking simplistic concept of "how to get to point B from point A" --people try to make this simple endeavor so complicated. If the most productive exercises for Bobs body is incline presses, deadlifts, dumbell curls, close grip benchs, shoulder presses, chins, calf presses, squats and leg curls, do you really think that superslow training, or other Psychoanalytical techniques are going to make Bob a superhumanly large bodybuilder? With eating enough food to get him up to every new strength and size level, and whatever else he decides, supplements, drugs, extreme stretching etc to get there the bottom line is this.
455 for 15rp on the incline bench
500 for 10 reps on the deadlift
90lb dumbell curls for 20rp
425 for 20rp on the close grip
315lbs for 15-20rp on the military
150lb rack chins for 20rp
600lb calf presses extreme stretched for 12
550 for 4-5 and 405 for 15-20 reps on the squat
the weight stack and chained plates for 15-30rp on the leg curl

IS GOING TO MAKE BOB A MONSTROUS MUSCULAR INDIVIDUAL. So you can make the decision as a bodybuilder. Are you going to fuck around for he next 5-10 years using the same weights in training and doing obsessive compulsive routines, techniques and overthoughtup principles written by by 45 year old men writing in muscle magazines who never got themselves over the 210lb bodyweight range? Or are you going to set out on a path to make yourself into something special!!! That direct path means taking the genetics handed to you, overcoming limitations that have been set by teaching your body to become a food processing, incredible strength gaining, adaption (into incredible size) machine. Extreme eating(up to new size)+Extreme Strength gains(rest pauses)+frequency of training (2x every 8 days)+ etc etc etc etc--do you guys see what im trying to accomplish with you in the shortest time possible?"
 

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