[Source] Gucci Gear Introduction (US Domestic)

Having a new source impress everyone during vetting and then have a successfull long term presence here is good for everyone. I'd like to see you do well.

You haven't done enough homework yet @GucciGear. Your introductory post lacks information that has been routinely asked of at least the last 5 labs who introduced themselves here. Getting peppered with predictable questions isn't a good start.

If you've been watching you know we recently have had a series of differently named labs show up and prove to be scams. That has prompted a lot of discussion about the vetting process and our harm reduction responsibilities.


Meso members tend to be well informed about harm reduction issues. They can use that knowledge to create a well informed opinion of a new lab fairly quickly. The are not who the scammers came here for. The "lurkers" (or perhaps better thought of as our guest's) are less likely to have studied these issues. Right now we have 630 guests viewing Meso content with 140 members logged in. The number of guests always greatly exceeds the number of members online. They are the "naive" potential customer base.

You now have access to their attention and their BTC wallets.

I along with others feel a strong sense of responsibility tonand for these folks. Vetting is our chance to teach and probably protect them.
 
@bolder Of course I plan to spend more money and expand as quickly as possible.
I will gain experience with time and I won't sell any product that isnt sterile or inaccurately dosed I wish to be around for a long time and that would hurt my business.
Offering different sized vials is a great idea I will be sure to use that idea in the future.

I actually hate the gucci gang song. I chose the name gucci because of what I want this business to become I want to become a well known source that sells top quality gear.

@msl3862 Sorry about that if I missed something I took a look through the scoc threads and other sources intros and tried to provide a good intro with enough information. I will go back and look at the last few new source threads and see what other information I should be including.

@Cityofgrit sorry I was hoping that the picture would show you enough of everything I will post some more pictures of my raws and whats inside the capsules as soon as I can.
 
You have brewed for a time but have never sourced before in any way?

Why did you come here? How much research about Meso and the Underground have you done?

Why have you not posted pics of your facilities and equipment? The issue of pics has been perhaps the most frustrating aspect of talking with new labs. Why do you not already know that?

What are your policies regarding members having your gear analysed and having blood drawn? What conclusion i am to draw from you not having testing of your raws and products to post and then not mentioning how important it Will be to get objective data regarding what you sell? Is harm reduction important to you?
 
@msl3862 yes I have homebrewed since 2015 but have never sourced.

I came here because it is an open forum I've had trouble finding any other forum that doesn't require you to become a sponsor. I have been around meso for nearly 4 years. As for research it is just what I have read in that time.

In my picture I had a filter more photos will be coming but the setup is basic. I have vacuum filters a hand pump and sterile syrines for transferring to the vials. For dry heat sterilization we used an oven that had never been used for anything but sterilization we cover the vials in foil to prevent particles from entering them after they have been cleaned and we heat them at 350 for 2 hours. I will get more pictures of the hand pump and filters and oven if you want it.

Sorry I forgot about that part in my intro we will provide a $50 store credit for any labmax and $100 dollar credit for bloodwork or MS. I have labmaxs that I will use on the products to confirm what is in them and I will post pictures of that shortly :)

@Cityofgrit here is a close up picture of some vials of Test E and the bags that the raws came in more pictures will be coming.
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Ripped off a famous name for your bathtub brew? Check!

Posted one photo that proves you have a rinky dink operation that couldn't handle Meso? Check!

Welcome back "Gear whores" now GTFO again.
Shit.. I'd already forgot about Gear Whores..these names are fucking awful.
 
@GucciGear you sell ONE injectable. Shades of Test Junkie all over again.

i want to see several pics, from every angle of AT LEAST 500 vials, evenly filled, crimped, capped and ready to roll.

Same thing with the piddly offering of orals you have.

Tick tock, you're on the clock, starting now!
 
To continue:

How long you been using your own gear? Do you in fact use it now?

What is the experience level of any others who will be working with you? Anyone with order processing and shipping experience?

What is your approach to retention of customer data?

I could go on further @GucciGear. But again all the these initial questions have been the same for so many of your predecessors.

I'm truly disappointed you apparently don't know these questions were coming and realize it would be good for you to proactively provide the information.

Like I said before: You haven't done your homework.

Knowing how to brew is.important but running a ugl involves skills far beyond that.

You came inadequately prepared and then chose to ignore both @bolder and me by moving forward this evening. Both poor insight and judgement are evident.

I notice you made no mention of harm reduction in your reply to my last post. I don't believe you are prepared for the responsibilities you've taken on by posting an introduction. You don't understand harm reduction or don't believe it's important.

I'm sorry but you will NEVER be trustworthy as a source in my eyes.

I wish you good fortune in whatever else ?you choose to do.
 
Along with the photos you intend to take be sure to include filters and lab set up with meso and today's date. Also it seems you may be a bit green when it comes to brewing. That being the case I'd be interested in hearing about the solvent ratios on your products...oh wait I mean product. Again it seems you lack experience so I would also like to hear a bit more in depth about your sterilization methods.

More like $1000-1200

That's interesting :rolleyes: cheapest vials available, terrible quality flip tops, and the cheapest raws available...oh and capsules in ziploc bags @El Capitan was being extremely generous when he said you probably dropped $500 I'm seeing like $350 maybe.

Also in your first photo i see three bags stacked atop each other in the back. They caught my attention because if you look closely those aren't the bags the raws are in they also don't seem to have the small panda labels. You wouldn't be attempting to pass of maltodextrin as raws right? Can we get some better pics of those bags in particular? As @MisterSuperGod said we also are gonna need to see a fresh stock pic with at least 500 vials. Thanks for your cooperation.
 
@msl3862 Ive been using my own gear for 2 1/2 years. yes I do use it right now.
Right now I have my partner working with me their experience is near none so I do all the heavy lifting. Funnily enough order processing and shipping is my job.

We retain customer data for a week after shipment after that most of the data is deleted we only retain enough information to identify the person who ordered and what they ordered in case there is a problem with the product and we plan to only keep that information for about a month.

As for harm reduction I wish to do whatever I can to prevent harm from coming to the users of my product. I would like to have my products tested by MS/HPLC but im not sure if there is anybody reliable around right now there was energy control that was fake janoshik isnt well trusted here and I believe analyzer isnt accepting anybody right now according to another thread.
 
@desertwarrior 20% bb 2% ba the usual brewed with mct oil.
Nope 1200 for everything id prove it but thatd be stupid of me to post any proof.
Those bags in the back actually are from ppl its anadrol I havent gotten around to start capping them yet so its not on the price list. The anadrol was ordered from ppl a bit over 6 months ago though so thats why the bags look different. The other raws were ordered around 3 weeks ago.
 
@MisterSuperGod Unfortunately I do not have 500 vials but i believe my photo does show I have way too much for one person The container is filled with aromasin. I will post more pictures tomorrow.
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I assure you that over half the members at meso have browsed through the goods at ppl and medlabsupply a time or two. We don't need invoices just give us brief rundown on what cost you $1200.

Also if that is your only stock you would be out in a day serving mesos needs. I agree with what others have said invest in your set up and offerings and come back under a different more well thought out name.
 
@desertwarrior wow I didnt realize it would sell so quick I dont know how much people buy so I wasnt sure how much to start with to be honest. I would definitely like to come back under a different name since this one was so ill recieved. Still I would like to "complete" this vetting process so that in the future if i shutdown or nobody buys from me I will be able to provide a much better intro duction and have everything spot on for when I return.
 
The problem with getting product analyses done right now means we do have to rely on LabMax and bloods. I genuinely respect the fact you mentioned reimbursement for LabMax without anyone specially asking.

If someone has a kit they can get a qualitative check done on your test e as soon as they receive it. Using bloods to estimate its concentration would take 6 weeks. Assuming someone is willing to use it.

I know I across as harsh by reaching my opinion so quickly. It is unfortunate you are being assessed in the wake of at least 4 scammers. That makes it really important you come out if the gate looking good.

I don't understand what you've been reading. Someone simply following the Underground would about Majesty, Colossal and Pharmatech. They also would have seen the large large amount of discussion the community has had regarding how to address new sources.

If someone was planning a new source introduction at Meso today they should know the details of those failed sources as well as the community's concerns. The information is free and easy to access.
 
Sorry that posted too quickly. I actually was planning to make a point sometime.

New sources are going to be viewed with skepticism given how many frauds have come this way. That's only logical.

There just isn't the willingness anymore to give much latitude or patience.

Carefully reading the Underground both makes that clear and shows how to get off to a good start.

I wish it had been more helpful to you.
 
I commend you for your honesty regarding your experience and trying to build a business for yourself but as others have told you ,you are not ready for this business venture. Take the advice given to you build yourself up locally and come back in a couple of years if you last that long. Also you should never keep any customers information whatsoever for any reason. If you keep just enough information to identify your customers you better believe the law can probably figure out how to identify them as well.
 
@MisterSuperGod Unfortunately I do not have 500 vials but i believe my photo does show I have way too much for one person The container is filled with aromasin. I will post more pictures tomorrow.
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You ain't ready for the big time. This is the most frequented AAS related website on the net. Mind you, there's only a handful of us posting in this thread, but there's hundreds of others at any given point in time browsing this site.

As i type this, there's nearly 500 guests on this site. If even 1/5 of those people hit you up, you'd be out of stock in a day.

Something to think about before you go all in here.
 
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