SOURCING ON MESO

[Fckit]

First and foremost, Meso is NOT a source board. We do not encourage sourcing as we are strictly an informational board. However, Meso is also uncensored. Should you choose to open up shop on this board, there are a few things you should be aware of:

1) We are a very diligent testing community. If you plan to source here and have not tested your raws or finished product, it would be in your best interest to source elsewhere. If our members decide to give you an opportunity to provide your service, it is guaranteed that your product will IMMEDIATELY be labmaxed - followed by bloodwork and MS/HPLC. You're reputation will be instantly tarnished if your product is bunk or underdosed. Therefore, if you care at all about your business DO NOT come here with unproven product, or you will be exposed. Meso results will be at the top of every Google search.

2) If you are insistent on sourcing here, it is imperative you search for the SCOC thread and familiarize yourself with the types of questions that will be asked. These are basic concerns and recommendations that prove to our members you, at least, partially have your shit together.

3) Meso members are not like many of the sheep you will find at other forums. We understand that the reason you are attempting to source here is because it is free. So understand, you are already at a disadvantage and our community will question you with extreme caution from day one.

4) If you are a beginning UGL or home brewer with a raw source you "think" is good, chances are you are selling underdosed gear (at best). You will be exposed. At Meso, we look for a 10X test level on blood tests. Anything less is unacceptable. See the "blood work protocol" thread in the lab testing section.

5) If you attempt to conduct business via private message, you will be exposed. Our community frowns on any business dealings attempted in private. Once you have been labeled for this offense, you might as well pack your bags.

6) No public UGL has survived this community to date. We have been the downfall of many beginner UGLs, as well as some long-time sources. You should seriously consider if you're willing to put your name and hard work on the line in order to source here. If you fail, we fully expect you to change handles and labels and try again. Just remember, our members are experts on the details so you will be wasting your time once again.

To close, I will repeat that this board is NOT a source board. You would be far better off pushing your gear at a paid board or elsewhere. We welcome any source to participate in discussions as a member. However, if you still want to enter the underground as a source after reading this, may God be with you. You were warned.

 

[Fckit]

How about referring these sources to something like this? Not in lieu of the SCOC, but as a prequel. If anyone wants to take this thread and run with it, please feel free. I'm just thinking something like this might at least weed out some of the dipshits.

Revisions or additions?

 

[insertnamehere]

I think the x10 needs to revised to 7-10.

 

[boxcar]

How about referring these sources to something like this? Not in lieu of the SCOC, but as a prequel. If anyone wants to take this thread and run with it, please feel free. I'm just thinking something like this might at least weed out some of the dipshits.

Revisions or additions?

Here is something has always bothered me about having members test out sources and labmax.

Don't the UGL know they will getting this batch tested? I mean, if I was a source and knew my product would be getting tested I would make it top notch, and once I am cleared by him, just tell under dosed or bunk gear?
How do we solve this?

 

[Fckit]

Here is something has always bothered me about having members test out sources and labmax.

Don't the UGL know they will getting this batch tested? I mean, if I was a source and knew my product would be getting tested I would make it top notch, and once I am cleared by him, just tell under dosed or bunk gear?
How do we solve this?

Maybe it should also emphasize CONTINUAL testing. Regardless, if a UGL at least has 'some' legit product, we're already ahead of the game as far as weeding out BS

 

[pmac928]

This is exactly what is needed IMO.

 

[d-red]

so is this the SCOC #1...the SCOC#2.....THE "SOURCES OR NO SOURCES", the REVISTED SCOC? i think this is like the 5 or 6th thread .....lol....i like how this forum is UN-MODERATED....but theres a group of guys that insist on moderating it,lol.
fck-nuts posts its not a source board...then he tells them how to become a source here.
me being a past multiple board owner...maybe millard has this forum as un-moderated so he can have type of plausible deniability. then you go and under mind that.

 

[Marcus]

Good addition fckit!

 

[Fckit]

so is this the SCOC #1...the SCOC#2.....THE "SOURCES OR NO SOURCES", the REVISTED SCOC? i think this is like the 5 or 6th thread .....lol....i like how this forum is UN-MODERATED....but theres a group of guys that insist on moderating it,lol.
fck-nuts posts its not a source board...then he tells them how to become a source here.
me being a past multiple board owner...maybe millard has this forum as un-moderated so he can have type of plausible deniability. then you go and under mind that.

I don't think you've read Millard's posts. We discourage sourcing, but due to no moderation, we can't stop it. That's exactly what this thread is, discouraging sourcing by warning potential sources of the pitfalls if they insist on it.

Seems to me, we are more trying to weed out unconstructive bullshit like your reply

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

so is this the SCOC #1...the SCOC#2.....THE "SOURCES OR NO SOURCES", the REVISTED SCOC? i think this is like the 5 or 6th thread .....lol....i like how this forum is UN-MODERATED....but theres a group of guys that insist on moderating it,lol.
fck-nuts posts its not a source board...then he tells them how to become a source here.
me being a past multiple board owner...maybe millard has this forum as un-moderated so he can have type of plausible deniability. then you go and under mind that.

Meso isn't a source board but because it's an uncensored steroid board sources will post threads to get business. I think laying out some of what we expect of a source and the testing we will do is a good thing. It's not trying to moderate meso it's just giving the would be sources the information of what they're up against if they choose to post here.

 

[d-red]

well there lays the problem....if ya want an unmoderated forum..ok...dont moderate the freedom of speech...views..opinions etc....but.i`m sorry....if a source is allowed to post/sell/source on a board...it is the board owners responsibility to watch and converse and keep an eye on the source and not turn a BLIND EYE as in the loop hole of the "un-moderated forum" here.

 

[Big_paul]

If they do not test raws, I don't even want to see them here.

I know some don't think its raws, and may be right, years ago, brewed and had very good connections for powder. That is why I felt ms would work out.

Maybe we shouldn't ugl, if all we will do is chew them up like hungry lion.

 

[Big Mike]

Great post @Fckit! I think something similar should be made for the member/buyer. Educating them as well as equipping them with questions for the source before they buy. I think Mr. Baker had an excellent idea going when he changed the SCOC to fit the member.


Big Mike

 

[Ozzy619]

well there lays the problem....if ya want an unmoderated forum..ok...dont moderate the freedom of speech...views..opinions etc....but.i`m sorry....if a source is allowed to post/sell/source on a board...it is the board owners responsibility to watch and converse and keep an eye on the source and not turn a BLIND EYE as in the loop hole of the "un-moderated forum" here.

You just contradicted yourself in one post. Its not the board owners job to do anything he doesnt want to. We do have an unmoderated freedom of speech here, but dumb shit gets called out.

 

[clamz]

well there lays the problem....if ya want an unmoderated forum..ok...dont moderate the freedom of speech...views..opinions etc....but.i`m sorry....if a source is allowed to post/sell/source on a board...it is the board owners responsibility to watch and converse and keep an eye on the source and not turn a BLIND EYE as in the loop hole of the "un-moderated forum" here.

wow! you made some sense and didn't get flamed that bad, how bout that. I said that the other day, it's an unmoderated forum but it's voluntarily moderated more heavily than any other forum i've seen. At least the mods can't remove posts here, i'm sure they will be along to fully flame you eventually though. IT's a hell of a mod team too, I've been reading alot and i got it figured out. They are like a hybrid between the little rascals and a late 90's boyband. cbs tryin to be the smart one, johnny ballz trying to be the cool one, big ben is the tough one grrrr and brutus is the rape obsessed one. Just like new kids on the block. I hear all the time that there are several thousand members on the board but it's the same 10 or so guys who post every day so the #'s seem inflated to me. Maybe that's how many have joined but just until they come in and realize how restricted they will be or they get their first flaming for answering a question.

I would predict that there will be no more meso in 2 years if it keeps going that way, any forum needs new members. Most people join a forum with an underground looking for a source or advice about a source. Sources get flamed out of here immediately so you can forget that angle. Next is the advice about at source, since they say every single source from every single forum is a scammer with little or no evidence. the credibility of this place is just gone and will be as long as these kids continue to run amok. What motivation is anyone going to have to join this forum if there is no aas to be found and no advice on the acquisition of aas to be found? It is definetly a nobe experiment but when you give to much freedom inevitably degenerates and bullies will eventually take advantage of it and horde all of the freedom for themselves by taking it from everyone else.

 

[hotdog23]

wow! you made some sense and didn't get flamed that bad, how bout that. I said that the other day, it's an unmoderated forum but it's voluntarily moderated more heavily than any other forum i've seen. At least the mods can't remove posts here, i'm sure they will be along to fully flame you eventually though. IT's a hell of a mod team too, I've been reading alot and i got it figured out. They are like a hybrid between the little rascals and a late 90's boyband. cbs tryin to be the smart one, johnny ballz trying to be the cool one, big ben is the tough one grrrr and brutus is the rape obsessed one. Just like new kids on the block. I hear all the time that there are several thousand members on the board but it's the same 10 or so guys who post every day so the #'s seem inflated to me. Maybe that's how many have joined but just until they come in and realize how restricted they will be or they get their first flaming for answering a question.

I would predict that there will be no more meso in 2 years if it keeps going that way, any forum needs new members. Most people join a forum with an underground looking for a source or advice about a source. Sources get flamed out of here immediately so you can forget that angle. Next is the advice about at source, since they say every single source from every single forum is a scammer with little or no evidence. the credibility of this place is just gone and will be as long as these kids continue to run amok. What motivation is anyone going to have to join this forum if there is no aas to be found and no advice on the acquisition of aas to be found? It is definetly a nobe experiment but when you give to much freedom inevitably degenerates and bullies will eventually take advantage of it and horde all of the freedom for themselves by taking it from everyone else.

Ghey as feck you are

 

[Fckit]

wow! you made some sense and didn't get flamed that bad, how bout that. I said that the other day, it's an unmoderated forum but it's voluntarily moderated more heavily than any other forum i've seen. At least the mods can't remove posts here, i'm sure they will be along to fully flame you eventually though. IT's a hell of a mod team too, I've been reading alot and i got it figured out. They are like a hybrid between the little rascals and a late 90's boyband. cbs tryin to be the smart one, johnny ballz trying to be the cool one, big ben is the tough one grrrr and brutus is the rape obsessed one. Just like new kids on the block. I hear all the time that there are several thousand members on the board but it's the same 10 or so guys who post every day so the #'s seem inflated to me. Maybe that's how many have joined but just until they come in and realize how restricted they will be or they get their first flaming for answering a question.

I would predict that there will be no more meso in 2 years if it keeps going that way, any forum needs new members. Most people join a forum with an underground looking for a source or advice about a source. Sources get flamed out of here immediately so you can forget that angle. Next is the advice about at source, since they say every single source from every single forum is a scammer with little or no evidence. the credibility of this place is just gone and will be as long as these kids continue to run amok. What motivation is anyone going to have to join this forum if there is no aas to be found and no advice on the acquisition of aas to be found? It is definetly a nobe experiment but when you give to much freedom inevitably degenerates and bullies will eventually take advantage of it and horde all of the freedom for themselves by taking it from everyone else.

 

[Ozzy619]

wow! you made some sense and didn't get flamed that bad, how bout that. I said that the other day, it's an unmoderated forum but it's voluntarily moderated more heavily than any other forum i've seen. At least the mods can't remove posts here, i'm sure they will be along to fully flame you eventually though. IT's a hell of a mod team too, I've been reading alot and i got it figured out. They are like a hybrid between the little rascals and a late 90's boyband. cbs tryin to be the smart one, johnny ballz trying to be the cool one, big ben is the tough one grrrr and brutus is the rape obsessed one. Just like new kids on the block. I hear all the time that there are several thousand members on the board but it's the same 10 or so guys who post every day so the #'s seem inflated to me. Maybe that's how many have joined but just until they come in and realize how restricted they will be or they get their first flaming for answering a question.

I would predict that there will be no more meso in 2 years if it keeps going that way, any forum needs new members. Most people join a forum with an underground looking for a source or advice about a source. Sources get flamed out of here immediately so you can forget that angle. Next is the advice about at source, since they say every single source from every single forum is a scammer with little or no evidence. the credibility of this place is just gone and will be as long as these kids continue to run amok. What motivation is anyone going to have to join this forum if there is no aas to be found and no advice on the acquisition of aas to be found? It is definetly a nobe experiment but when you give to much freedom inevitably degenerates and bullies will eventually take advantage of it and horde all of the freedom for themselves by taking it from everyone else.

Snce were using analogies here, youre like the groupie who keeps coming back for more dick.

 

[KGO]

All I ask is that anyone who is sourcing on this board goes through the same consistent testing and reviews as every other source. I don't care if you've been a source for 20 years or 2 weeks, it means nothing until there's real data like bloodwork and labmaxes posted by an unbiased 3rd party on MESO.

Anyone selling gear is a source and should be treated as such. I don't care if you do it publicly or privately. Members like MANWHORE and nophat are selling gear here that is no doubt brewed in their kitchen, but somehow they are above the scrutiny of the board. Publicly we know nothing about their brewing and testing processes. They are not better than any other source here. They are the same.

Anyone attempting to say a source is above this boards scrutiny is a shill. I don't care what fancy words you have next to your name. I don't care how long you say you've been around. You're welcome to share your experiences and annecdotes, but you may not harass members who choose to share a differing experience. No one should ever be discouraged from sharing information about any source they have used.

 

[tubesox]

wow! you made some sense and didn't get flamed that bad, how bout that. I said that the other day, it's an unmoderated forum but it's voluntarily moderated more heavily than any other forum i've seen. At least the mods can't remove posts here, i'm sure they will be along to fully flame you eventually though. IT's a hell of a mod team too, I've been reading alot and i got it figured out. They are like a hybrid between the little rascals and a late 90's boyband. cbs tryin to be the smart one, johnny ballz trying to be the cool one, big ben is the tough one grrrr and brutus is the rape obsessed one. Just like new kids on the block. I hear all the time that there are several thousand members on the board but it's the same 10 or so guys who post every day so the #'s seem inflated to me. Maybe that's how many have joined but just until they come in and realize how restricted they will be or they get their first flaming for answering a question.

I would predict that there will be no more meso in 2 years if it keeps going that way, any forum needs new members. Most people join a forum with an underground looking for a source or advice about a source. Sources get flamed out of here immediately so you can forget that angle. Next is the advice about at source, since they say every single source from every single forum is a scammer with little or no evidence. the credibility of this place is just gone and will be as long as these kids continue to run amok. What motivation is anyone going to have to join this forum if there is no aas to be found and no advice on the acquisition of aas to be found? It is definetly a nobe experiment but when you give to much freedom inevitably degenerates and bullies will eventually take advantage of it and horde all of the freedom for themselves by taking it from everyone else.

LMAO!! @brutus79 @CensoredBoardsSuck @biggerben69 @johnnyBALLZ you guys see this shit? this idiot did make me laugh though...