SpartaPharmaUSA (Domestic)

[Brawny]

@SpartaPharmaUSA

Could you acknowledge @T-Bagger request? It’s a legitimate question

 

[Sp2.0]

I don’t think the tester gives a damn, knowing his heart for this community. Even if @Weights & Measures doesn't want to fully disclose, I’ll be happy with him confirming the number of items sent in and what was tested.

I think that's a bit more reasonable.

 

[cochino]

@SpartaPharmaUSA . You need to adress @T-Bagger question. Not doing so is making you look really bad.

 

[chris587]

And crickets... you discussing with your other teammates on how to get around this? You can’t, because it’s a two-edged sword. If you refuse, we burn you at the stake. If you allow and the test results are bad, all 4 of your boards will find out. Answer the question fuckstick.

Bro if it was finished oils that he had tested and it was proven he was knowingly selling underdosed/bunk/mislabeled thats one thing. Not disclosing those results would make this guy a piece of shit.

Im on the fence on having to share all the raws testing...

 

[T&H]

Don't mean to get off topic but I was just searching to find out when a users status changes from Junior Member to Member and I literally just saw mine change! Crazy, guess I'm now an official member

 

[Brawny]

Bro if it was finished oils that he had tested and it was proven he was knowingly selling underdosed/bunk/mislabeled thats one thing. Not disclosing those results would make this guy a piece of shit.

Im on the fence on having to share all the raws testing...

Fuck that. If he’s been using the raws, then they needed to be posted. For purity, contaminates, etc

 

[Sp2.0]

Sounds like a plan to me. 6 raws are en route to WM already.
I can't control how fast he processes them, but you'll be able to confirm (if they aren't released in one week from now) that he has them on his possession and is working on them.

We sent 6, we will post 6.

That's why he should post the results.

 

[T-Bagger]

Bro if it was finished oils that he had tested and it was proven he was knowingly selling underdosed/bunk/mislabeled thats one thing. Not disclosing those results would make this guy a piece of shit.

Im on the fence on having to share all the raws testing...

I’m not even concerned about raws. I want to see his finished tabs and oils results.

 

[T-Bagger]

I don’t give a damn about raws as much as I do finished and I have a feeling he has sent in some finished behind the scenes and we’ll never know. Giving @Weights & Measures permission to post will definitely make me happy. Because honestly, I think this guy is pulling an ARL and isn’t fully disclosing.

 

[Brawny]

If @SpartaPharmaUSA doesn't start answering questions, then it’s about to his memorial day weekend lol

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Need to post finished oils and caps results regardless of what it is. Also need to post results for raws already in use. Those all effect the customer obviously.

But even TGI has said he won’t post raws results that are bad, simply don’t use that pack of raws. That’s only between the UGL and his raws supplier. If they pull the raws then there’s no reason to post the bad results.

 

[Brawny]

Need to post finished oils and caps results regardless of what it is. Also need to post results for raws already in use. Those all effect the customer obviously.

But even TGI has said he won’t post raws results that are bad, simply don’t use that pack of raws. That’s only between the UGL and his raws supplier. If they pull the raws then there’s no reason to post the bad results.

I agree with this. The reason I was more comfortable with TGI withholding the test results, was that he actually brought them up himself with 100% transparency. If he said they were bad, then I don’t need to see them.

This situation is different because he hasn’t produced any testing, good or bad at this point. And we don’t know that he isn’t using the raws that aren’t correct

 

[T-Bagger]

I agree with this. The reason I was more comfortable with TGI withholding the test results, was that he actually brought them up himself with 100% transparency. If he said they were bad, then I don’t need to see them.

This situation is different because he hasn’t produced any testing, good or bad at this point. And we don’t know that he isn’t using the raws that aren’t correct

It’s sexy when you went from regular type to italics.

 

[chris587]

Need to post finished oils and caps results regardless of what it is. Also need to post results for raws already in use. Those all effect the customer obviously.

But even TGI has said he won’t post raws results that are bad, simply don’t use that pack of raws. That’s only between the UGL and his raws supplier. If they pull the raws then there’s no reason to post the bad results.

This 100%. Us members sending in random vials for testing is by far the best way to know legitimacy.

Testing raws is for the source to protect themselves so they can avoid dosing errors or bad lab reports that would kill their brand.

Us knowing sparta has 99.2% var doesnt mean they'll put the correct amount of mg per tab. So for the consumer testing finished products is what we should concern ourselves with.

Edit - it is nice to see tests on finished and raws...just unnecessary to see every test as long as the finished is coming out correct.

 

[Brawny]

This 100%. Us members sending in random vials for testing is by far the best way to know legitimacy.

Testing raws is for the source to protect themselves so they can avoid dosing errors or bad lab reports that would kill their brand.

Us knowing sparta has 99.2% var doesnt mean they'll put the correct amount of mg per tab. So for the consumer testing finished products is what we should concern ourselves with.

Edit - it is nice to see tests on finished and raws...just unnecessary to see every test as long as the finished is coming out correct.

The point made by @Mac11wildcat was pretty on point, however. If the purity isn’t one hundred percent, then what is the filler in the raws made of? How do we know it’s not some contaminate you’re injecting that’s slowly killing you?

And if they test a finished batch, only to find out the entire batch is under-dosed because of impure raws, then they’ll be playing damage control after they’ve sold a bunch of stuff lol

 

[SmallWoody]

Same, I could care less what the raws report say. You can test raws all you want. That doesn't mean he will put the full dosage in the oil for example. I'd rather have the finished product tested before he sells it.
list the finished product with the correct dosage as tested. And boom.

 

[mp46]

I'd rather see finished oils tested as well, but we know that sources don't often do that. What a source should be doing is testing their raws to know their supplier didn't fuck them and by proxy we get to see that the raws are at least legit. The brewing process is left to the brewer to get it correct.

So to me at least, testing of raws and finished oils are two different subjects for different reasons.

 

[chris587]

I'd rather see finished oils tested as well, but we know that sources don't often do that. What a source should be doing is testing their raws to know their supplier didn't fuck them and by proxy we get to see that the raws are at least legit. The brewing process is left to the brewer to get it correct.

So to me at least, testing of raws and finished oils are two different subjects for different reasons.

Exactly.

 

[chris587]

The point made by @Mac11wildcat was pretty on point, however. If the purity isn’t one hundred percent, then what is the filler in the raws made of? How do we know it’s not some contaminate you’re injecting that’s slowly killing you?

And if they test a finished batch, only to find out the entire batch is under-dosed because of impure raws, then they’ll be playing damage control after they’ve sold a bunch of stuff lol

Thats why TGI is killing the game. He tests every raw he has before each batch. As long as avoids a brewing error he'll never produce a bad finished product. As far as impurities go im not sure how much is acceptable. For example should a source brew with a 92% pure product?? Or only 98%+ ??

Personally i have no clue....

 

[Brawny]

Thats why TGI is killing the game. He tests every raw he has before each batch. As long as avoids a brewing error he'll never produce a bad finished product. As far as impurities go im not sure how much is acceptable. For example should a source brew with a 92% pure product?? Or only 98%+ ??

Personally i have no clue....

It doesn’t matter how much impurity there is. It could be 80% if the impurities are non toxic and the source adequately compensates during brewing to make the correct concentration.

But what if the Raw is 97% pure, but the 3% impurity’s are some poisonous substance that you’re injecting?