Stacks to compete?

Teros

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I recently turned 18 and I've been natty up to now, I have good insertions and my body builds muscle fast but I think Im at the end of my natty journey. I want to compete but I know I have no chance against enhanced athletes right now. Sarms or steroids? What is the best beginner stack that can help me put on size to compete? I appreciate everyone in here for their knowledgeable support, thank you. (if possible the least amount of side effects which is why im asking here)
 
Well im not 100% sure if I can but I want to see if it's possible, that's why I want a beginner stack. It can make me see if im capable without doing any damage too permanent.
 
Why not try competing naturally first before deciding you can't be competitive without steroids? That way, you'll know if it’s truly something you want to pursue. Social media makes it look easy and glamorous, but reaching stage condition and competing is much harder and more demanding than most people realize.
 
Why not try competing naturally first before deciding you can't be competitive without steroids? That way, you'll know if it’s truly something you want to pursue. Social media makes it look easy and glamorous, but reaching stage condition and competing is much harder and more demanding than most people realize.
I agree ..
Social media has ruined body building for me.. now I can’t stand it .. every one wants to be one.. now you got idiots with cameras in the gym taking up space .. repeating what others have been saying for years . Shit is exhausting..
 
So what I will say is at 18, now is the time to research for the future while you continue to gain an understanding of how you’re body responds to training and diet.

Seems like since joining, each day another teenager posts about wanting to hop on gear. I understand because you’re a teenager and still finding a place in the world and think pursuing this will somehow change your life for the positive.

Listen, as I said to a kid the other day, focus on how to get jacked as a natural, get laid, find out what you want to do for a job the rest of your life. These things should be your priority.

Bodybuilding isn’t going to run away from you. You’re young, take advantage of it the right way. Wondering what you’re going to pin for a cycle can come much later.

This isn’t a “do as I say, not as I do” type of thing. I started training at 15 and gained 13 years of training/nutrition knowledge before I stepped on the gas two years ago. I’m glad I listened to my buddy who worked at the gym with me in HS — he was in his early twenty’s and a decent open bodybuilder. I told him I wanted to hop on gear and he told me I was retarded (which I was) and gave me the same advice I’m giving you. Best thing I ever did was take it.

Now I wouldn’t mind, and I bet others wouldn’t as well, but give us an overview of training, diet, and supplementation and you will get feedback.
 
DISCLAIMER I think you should wait until you are in your 20s to do a blast.

Test is best. Everything else is a derivative of test to give to women and children. I'm not say 1000mg of test will get you as much gains as 600mg test + 400mg nandrolone, but it is what the body needs like steak. Start low (250mg/week) and titrate up every 5 weeks until you reach 10mg per pound body weight/week.

Now, if your not willing or able to get blood work done, stick to food and intensity in your training until you get the funds or ability to get blood work done at least every 5 weeks for 20 weeks.
 
Sup Sam Sulek Jr., most sarms are bad mmmkay some might prove to be useful but it’s like diving into research chemicals instead of just using regular drugs, why complicate something that works well already?
 
Is it you in the avatar? How much do you weigh? What’s your diet and training like?
yes its me, im at 160 5'8. I eat 140-165g of protein daily staying in a calorie deficit since im trying to cut a little right now while not loosing muscle. I work out monday-friday chest tri, pull, legs, chest shoulders, pull
 
18 and already at your genetic peak of fitness? wow you must train really hard, bro. share your split pls.
haha chill bro, im just saying since I've been working 4 years naturally and for the last six months I haven't seen much progress regardless how much I eat or sleep or workout. I don't want to work out 5 more years naturally to achieve what I can in 6 months enhanced! maybe its an amateur mindset try to bear with me.
 
So what I will say is at 18, now is the time to research for the future while you continue to gain an understanding of how you’re body responds to training and diet.

Seems like since joining, each day another teenager posts about wanting to hop on gear. I understand because you’re a teenager and still finding a place in the world and think pursuing this will somehow change your life for the positive.

Listen, as I said to a kid the other day, focus on how to get jacked as a natural, get laid, find out what you want to do for a job the rest of your life. These things should be your priority.

Bodybuilding isn’t going to run away from you. You’re young, take advantage of it the right way. Wondering what you’re going to pin for a cycle can come much later.

This isn’t a “do as I say, not as I do” type of thing. I started training at 15 and gained 13 years of training/nutrition knowledge before I stepped on the gas two years ago. I’m glad I listened to my buddy who worked at the gym with me in HS — he was in his early twenty’s and a decent open bodybuilder. I told him I wanted to hop on gear and he told me I was retarded (which I was) and gave me the same advice I’m giving you. Best thing I ever did was take it.

Now I wouldn’t mind, and I bet others wouldn’t as well, but give us an overview of training, diet, and supplementation and you will get feedback.
totally man and I really appreciate it, I'll take your advice and at least think it over for a couple years.
 
haha chill bro, im just saying since I've been working 4 years naturally and for the last six months I haven't seen much progress regardless how much I eat or sleep or workout. I don't want to work out 5 more years naturally to achieve what I can in 6 months enhanced! maybe its an amateur mindset try to bear with me.

No, it's totally a symptom of your "gotta have it now" mindset. Instant gratification is all the rage. An entire generation raised by the internet...What could go wrong? Hard work has gone the way of the dodo.

Others have already said to compete natty first (natty competitions exist). Start there and see if you even like doing what it takes to compete. Many can assure you that it is not an easy life. And see if you even have stage presence. Just because you look good in the mirror doesn't mean you can convince judges you do. It's a performance. How will you know it's for you until you try? What if you destroyed your balls and any chance at having a family before you decided you don't want this life? That would suck at your age, don't ya think?
 

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