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Gentlemen first real cutting cycle advice

I just got done a tren A cycle and made some great lean gains and now looking to cut. (Getting blood work mid March to see if body will be ready again)

2 proposed cycles

Tren E 600mg EW 1-12
Test 500-750mg EW (depending on sides) 1-12
Anadrol wk 1-4 100mg day
Anavar/Winnie 50/50 wk 8-12
Or
Test 750mg Ew 1-16
Bold 900mg EW 1-16
Anadrol 100mg wk 1-4
Anavar/Winnie 50/50 wk 10-16

I have used bold once before and noticed Big strength increase and vascularity. Tren I noticed more fat loss and some strength and vascualrity. But no side effects except sweating at night.

So you ran a cut cycle and your following it up with a cut cycle or am I reading this wrong? Maybe be more specific about your last cycle and its purpose. How long ago, compounds, nutrition etc...

Did you get bloods after your last EQ cycle? If so, what was your hematocrit afterwards? Reason I ask is because you hear most "Bros" claiming EQ is a very mild compound in terms of sides and in my case it was quite the opposite. I didn't experience physical sides really but completely jacked my hematocrit. Gains, other than a puffy ass face, were also non existent other than a LITTLE more vascularity. So IME EQ is fucking garbage.

Next time maybe use Deca to help bulk and leave the Tren to cutting no explanation needed.
 
Gentlemen first real cutting cycle advice

I just got done a tren A cycle and made some great lean gains and now looking to cut. (Getting blood work mid March to see if body will be ready again)

2 proposed cycles

Tren E 600mg EW 1-12
Test 500-750mg EW (depending on sides) 1-12
Anadrol wk 1-4 100mg day
Anavar/Winnie 50/50 wk 8-12
Or
Test 750mg Ew 1-16
Bold 900mg EW 1-16
Anadrol 100mg wk 1-4
Anavar/Winnie 50/50 wk 10-16

I have used bold once before and noticed Big strength increase and vascularity. Tren I noticed more fat loss and some strength and vascualrity. But no side effects except sweating at night.
My recommendations is if you’re going to do something get the most out of it. If you’re going to cut, then cut. I would run a cut cycle like

Long Esters
Test E/C 400 1-14
Tren E 600 1-10
Winny 50mg ed 8-12
Or mast 600 1-12

Short Esters
Test p 400 1-13
Tren a 400 1-6
Npp 400 6-12
Anavar 8-12 50mg ED
 
So you ran a cut cycle and your following it up with a cut cycle or am I reading this wrong? Maybe be more specific about your last cycle and its purpose. How long ago, compounds, nutrition etc...

Did you get bloods after your last EQ cycle? If so, what was your hematocrit afterwards? Reason I ask is because you hear most "Bros" claiming EQ is a very mild compound in terms of sides and in my case it was quite the opposite. I didn't experience physical sides really but completely jacked my hematocrit. Gains, other than a puffy ass face, were also non existent other than a LITTLE more vascularity. So IME EQ is fucking garbage.

Next time maybe use Deca to help bulk and leave the Tren to cutting no explanation needed.


I used tren to bulk I was eating north of 4K calories a day. I used EQ once and my hemacrit was fine but my RBC were high but still in range. I’m getting blood work done mid March before I start another tren cycle. I’ve never cut just been bulking trying to get as big as possible before I do a “true” cut
 
Don’t bring up politics here .. stay on the topic of product review

Well, it should be pointed out that the AVI that he has now (Trump) was NOT the AVI that he had when I posted that. His AVI at the time when I posted that, had nothing to do with Trump, or even American politics. At the time that I posted that, he had an AVI that had a pic of the woman and child torturer/murderer Kim Jong-Un.

Never-the-less, I agree with you. I just couldn't stand to keep seeing that fuckers face. But you are right, Taco.
 
About to gear up for my first blast of the year... lookin to fill out a little bit and pack on a few lbs. What you guys think about This?

1.5 ml npp mon wed friday weeks 1-12

1ml test enanthate e5d weeks 1-12

60mg Tbol ed 30mg am 30mg pwo weeks 1-4


Adex .5mg mon wed fri

Bloods at week 6

All Stanford gear except adex....I'm on self perscribed TRT at 100mg e5d atm. Also have some dragons blood might throw that in near the end to tighten up just in time for summer.
 
About to gear up for my first blast of the year... lookin to fill out a little bit and pack on a few lbs. What you guys think about This?

1.5 ml npp mon wed friday weeks 1-12

1ml test enanthate e5d weeks 1-12

60mg Tbol ed 30mg am 30mg pwo weeks 1-4


Adex .5mg mon wed fri

Bloods at week 6

All Stanford gear except adex....I'm on self perscribed TRT at 100mg e5d atm. Also have some dragons blood might throw that in near the end to tighten up just in time for summer.

Personally, i like it. (Thumbs up emoji goes here.)
Was thinking about trying something similar, but i haven't put a timeframe on it. Still kickin' ideas around.
 
About to gear up for my first blast of the year... lookin to fill out a little bit and pack on a few lbs. What you guys think about This?

1.5 ml npp mon wed friday weeks 1-12

1ml test enanthate e5d weeks 1-12

60mg Tbol ed 30mg am 30mg pwo weeks 1-4


Adex .5mg mon wed fri

Bloods at week 6

All Stanford gear except adex....I'm on self perscribed TRT at 100mg e5d atm. Also have some dragons blood might throw that in near the end to tighten up just in time for summer.

Harmswhey, my good man, why run a long ester test with short ester NPP? I'd make life easier on my injection sites and run Test E with Deca and do less pins per week!

Also, if you are looking to fill out and put on lbs, personally I'd prefer dbol over tbol, having done both.

Also, do you know for sure that that adex dose is needed (ie, have you needed the adex at that dose on previous cycles?). I think some times guys assume they need a specific dose of AI because that's what other guys use, when in reality, it might not be necessary at that dose. Dr. Jim once advised me to use symptoms as a gauge on AI usage. It seems to have worked for me. Not saying that you or anyone else should do the same, but it is something to consider.
 
Harmswhey, my good man, why run a long ester test with short ester NPP? I'd make life easier on my injection sites and run Test E with Deca and do less pins per week!

Also, if you are looking to fill out and put on lbs, personally I'd prefer dbol over tbol, having done both.

Also, do you know for sure that that adex dose is needed (ie, have you needed the adex at that dose on previous cycles?). I think some times guys assume they need a specific dose of AI because that's what other guys use, when in reality, it might not be necessary at that dose. Dr. Jim once advised me to use symptoms as a gauge on AI usage. It seems to have worked for me. Not saying that you or anyone else should do the same, but it is something to consider.
Atm I'm cruising on 100mg e5d and on the 5th day before I pinned I pulled bloods. Test was 620ish and estro was 45 I think. That was using no ai. My body responds differently to test prop than the longer esters. I find it hard to dial in my estro when using prop which is why I want to just stay with the long ester test. I like using a slin pin for my test so 1cc is the max I can put in it.....I never get any sides from high estrogen which is odd I've had estro over 100 and not had a single side. I get bloods done often because of that whenever I change doses or add compounds or change protocol. I used test prop and npp in the past and it was my favorite blast to date but it was a nightmare dialing in estro and that was the only time I've ever had gyno. I had a lump that stayed for months but raloxifene finally killed it. I know it is odd using the 2 diff esters brotha but I just feel like I'm in better control of estrogen on the longer ester of test. I figured since I am going 3x higher with the test and the low conversion rate of the npp that adex dose should be sufficient.... sorry for the long reply I'm babbling on but I respect and appreciate your input brotha.
 
And on the dbol to Tbol @bickel29 I've only used dbol once and I was using 50mg ed 25mg am 25mg pwo. It didn't do anything for me I ran it 3 weeks and dropped it. It was another labs and others apparently were liking it. I've used Tbol a handful of times and it always worked well for me. Vascularity, strength, and a hard dense look. But honestly now u have me thinking lol Maybe it's time to give dbol another shot.... if you have estro dialed in will it still bloat me up with a lot of water weight?
 
Harmswhey, my good man, why run a long ester test with short ester NPP? I'd make life easier on my injection sites and run Test E with Deca and do less pins per week!

Also, if you are looking to fill out and put on lbs, personally I'd prefer dbol over tbol, having done both.

Also, do you know for sure that that adex dose is needed (ie, have you needed the adex at that dose on previous cycles?). I think some times guys assume they need a specific dose of AI because that's what other guys use, when in reality, it might not be necessary at that dose. Dr. Jim once advised me to use symptoms as a gauge on AI usage. It seems to have worked for me. Not saying that you or anyone else should do the same, but it is something to consider.
I only take ai when i have symptoms for me I’m prone to gyno so i know when it’s coming ... also i brake out when my e2 gets high i take some letro and it’s gone
 
Also, do you know for sure that that adex dose is needed (ie, have you needed the adex at that dose on previous cycles?). I think some times guys assume they need a specific dose of AI because that's what other guys use, when in reality, it might not be necessary at that dose. Dr. Jim once advised me to use symptoms as a gauge on AI usage. It seems to have worked for me. Not saying that you or anyone else should do the same, but it is something to consider.

+1 on AI dose per sides felt. I used to dose per blood work. Never felt sides even with high E2. Now i dose if i feel sides. Seems better for me.
 
Atm I'm cruising on 100mg e5d and on the 5th day before I pinned I pulled bloods. Test was 620ish and estro was 45 I think. That was using no ai. My body responds differently to test prop than the longer esters. I find it hard to dial in my estro when using prop which is why I want to just stay with the long ester test. I like using a slin pin for my test so 1cc is the max I can put in it.....I never get any sides from high estrogen which is odd I've had estro over 100 and not had a single side. I get bloods done often because of that whenever I change doses or add compounds or change protocol. I used test prop and npp in the past and it was my favorite blast to date but it was a nightmare dialing in estro and that was the only time I've ever had gyno. I had a lump that stayed for months but raloxifene finally killed it. I know it is odd using the 2 diff esters brotha but I just feel like I'm in better control of estrogen on the longer ester of test. I figured since I am going 3x higher with the test and the low conversion rate of the npp that adex dose should be sufficient.... sorry for the long reply I'm babbling on but I respect and appreciate your input brotha.
What size is the slin pin? 5/8 IM? Or 1 inch IM?
 
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