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johnson1000
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Does ANYBOBY know the outcome of the conversation between Darius and theslice which took place a couple of weeks ago on EROIDS about the primo not being primo?
I have a similar situation and would like to know what was decided. I could not find it on the current EROIDS labs review or discussion,I don't know if it was erased or deleted, but it is copied and pasted below.
@theslice
Thank you Sir for just joining Eroids today and letting us know this.
Please send an unopened vial to an independent lab testing facility of your choice and send us your info so we can cover all the testing costs in advance.
Share the results here and if the concentration advertised on the label has an error of +/- 5% PharmacomStore will send you 1.000$
It's a public offer and we await your response and immediate action.
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
https://anaboliclab.com/lab-results/brand-name/pharmacom-labs/pharmacom-labs-pharma-prim-100-lab-test-results-2015-08-10/
Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Prim 100 is presented in a 10 milliliter reusable injectable vial. Each milliliter reportedly contains 100 milligrams of methenolone enanthate according to the label and packaging. Samples of this product were purchased from a North American-based authorized distributor between the dates of June 1, 2015 and June 30, 2015. The samples were forwarded and received by the analytical laboratory SIMEC AG for HPLC-UV testing on July 20, 2015. The quantitative dosage testing report was completed on August 10, 2015. The product was identified with a batch number of 604331 and an expiration date of June 2017. The “quality code” listed on the product was “2v8friq4cx”. The quality code was successfully used to authenticate/verify the product on pharmacomlabs.com/code.
Label claim: Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Prim 100 has a label claim of 100 mg/mL of methenolone enanthate.
Actual content: Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Prim 100 was determined to have actual content of 95.0 mg/mL of methenolone enanthate.
(The following images are photographs of the actual product that was submitted for testing.)
@Darius
I had a blood test a week after starting the "primo" - it showed my testosterone levels as being 5130. I get my testosterone levels checked regularly due to ongoing medical treatment. My normal test is 300-400 and has been stable at that level for a couple of years. The only physical way that my level could be as high as 5130 is if I am taking large quantities of test externally, which at the 600mg/week I have been taking is a reasonable dose of test.
I am not going to pay $1000 to send it to a lab and just "trust" that you will pay me back
Also, it was primo 200 I purchased.
@theslice
Dear Sir, read again .. we'll give you 1.000$ if the lab rest results are bad, you test it anywhere you want and make the results public. Use an authorized testing place and we'll send you the testing cost through bank account, before.
Another interesting thing is that the manufacturing of our Primo 200, the product you mentioned to use, was suspended for more than a year and it was resumed several 1 week ago.
@Darius
OK what I propose to do is to redo my blood test to make sure there was nothing wrong with the test its self. Once I have those results I will be in touch.
I am more than happy to send the product for testing as long as you are prepared to pay for the testing upfront
@theslice
Hi Darius,
Just to let you know, I have just done a Labmax test on the Pharmacom Primo 100 and it tested positive for Sustanon. I am completely disgusted and will be making sure as many people in the community know not to use Pharmacom. I appreciate the offer of $1000 if I get an independant lab to verify my findings but I have absolutely zero trust and do not feel the need to waste my time or my money any further. My blood work is telling me its Test, my Labmax is telling me its Test and my body is telling me its Test.
Disgusting business practices
@theslice
Hello Sir!
Pharmacom is the oldest and top rated supplier from Eroids with more than 8.000 unique reviews with our products being sold by multiple sources from this board with great reviews.
We're present on all the major steroid boards, widely reviewed and lab tested ... with tens of customers each month taking advantage of our free lab testing offer.
Trying to discredit our reputation is a lost cause, our transparency level is maximum and a basic documentation of our services, products and IFBB sponsored athletes would make everyone aware of the truth.
Please provide us with your order number if you really ordered from an authorized Pharmacom and please accept to send an unopened vial for lab testing, on our expense to an accredited laboratory of your choice.
it will be an easy way of making 1.000$ if you're right.
@Darius
Hi Darius, I have nothing to gain by trying to discredit your lab.
I wanted Primobolan and the last thing I wanted was for the product to be fake however the facts indicate that it was.
I know many people have had a good experience with your products, I have found other people on the boards who have had test instead of primobolan. I would agree that the overwhelming majority are happy however there are some who have found a couple of others who have found themselves in my position.
All I can go on are the facts:
My blood test shows my Testosterone levels increased from 14.9 to to 176 within days taking your product, fact!
I was taking no additional products other than the Primo 100
Unless I am mistaken, Primobolan would not effect the Serum Testesterone reading, I would be happy to be corrected.
I am running another blood test this week to be 100% sure
I felt physical effect from the product days after starting, dont get me wrong, I felt great but this is not expected with Primobolan in such a short time.
I completed a Labmax test of the product and it showed as Sustanon - Fact. I fully appreciate that the Labmax tests are not an accredited lab however they are a VERY good indicator.
I will take you up on the offer of the testing however this does still will not really prove that what I took was not testesterone;
I am not saying that every Primobolan vial you sell is fake, I am saying however that the one I injected significantly increased my T levels and showed on labmax as Sustanon.
It is entirely possible, and more than likely, that not all of your vials are fake, even if 10% of your vials of Primobolan are in-fact another cheeper compound, it will still be vastly more profitable for Pharmacom. Even if 1% of them are a cheeper compound it would be in the interests of profit and explain why you are so confident in the lab test
I am more interested doing a lab test on the vial I actually injected, that would be the only way you could prove that what I injected was Primobolan.
I am happy to forego the $1000 if you are prepared to test the vial I used.
I just want to be able to purchase Primobolan without getting Testosterone and warn others of the risk of purchasing Primobolan from Pharmacom, even if that risk is tiny, peope have a right to know.
FYI The order number is 52854. I am not prepared to name the source as I do not think it would be fair to damage their reputation due to the apparent inconsistency of your products. I can confirm that that are an authorised dealer, according to the Pharmacom website and the serial number was confirmed and being legit on your web site.
@theslice
You are not prepared to name the source because there isn't any. You don't want to give their name because you don't want to damage their reputation but that's exactly your main purpose and what you're trying to do here.
All complaints should have the order number plus the name of the source so we could validate that the transaction really took place.
Also, it was primo 200 I purchased.
.
I was taking no additional products other than the Primo 100
You first stated that it was Primo 200 and after i told you that it was no longer produced for more than a year you changed it to Primo 100. You're embarrassing yourself Sir.
I have found other people on the boards who have had test instead of primobolan.
Where have you found that? Send us links so we can all see. Did they also registered on those boards on the same day of their posting, just like you did here?
You want to send an opened vial for lab testing even if you stated you have more from the same product? You're speaking about Labmax and blood test restuls with absolutely no proofs. Did you make a video while you opened the vial and have it labmaxed, just like all the guys on the boards do it? Where is your blood test result, why don't you post it?
Unlike you, we're always transparent and we're offering a full display of our manufacturing process, lab tests and professional athletes who're using our products.
pharmacomstore.org/innovations/
pharmacomstore.org/labtests/
pharmacomstore.org/our-athletes/
http://anaboliclab.com/
@Darius
Hi Darius,
There is no need to get so worked up, you are the one who is starting to embarrass yourself.
The reason why I did not want to name the source is that they are not the manufacturer therefore are not responsible for what is in the bottle. in the intrest of transparency, it is 101fitnesspharma. who may I add, have been excellent to deal with.
I am unable to post pictures on the reply, can you send me your email address, I will send all the pictures of the labmax and the blood tests to you directly.
I will also send you the link where other users have found issues with the legitimacy of pharmacom primobolan.
The reason why I have only just registered on this forum is it is the first time I have had cause for complaint, I am not a seasoned AAS user so this is the first time I have had to complain or conduct labmax tests.
I am also running a new blood test shortly, if it transpires that I am incorrect, I will publicly apologies. I have heard nothing but good things about Pharmacom, which is why i purchased your product, I am also not saying all your primobolan is fake, what I am saying is the promobolan which I purchased has impacted my testesterone levels, which Primobolan should not do.
Please email me directly and I will send you all pictures and blood tests etc
I have a similar situation and would like to know what was decided. I could not find it on the current EROIDS labs review or discussion,I don't know if it was erased or deleted, but it is copied and pasted below.
@theslice
Thank you Sir for just joining Eroids today and letting us know this.
Please send an unopened vial to an independent lab testing facility of your choice and send us your info so we can cover all the testing costs in advance.
Share the results here and if the concentration advertised on the label has an error of +/- 5% PharmacomStore will send you 1.000$
It's a public offer and we await your response and immediate action.
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
https://anaboliclab.com/lab-results/brand-name/pharmacom-labs/pharmacom-labs-pharma-prim-100-lab-test-results-2015-08-10/
Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Prim 100 is presented in a 10 milliliter reusable injectable vial. Each milliliter reportedly contains 100 milligrams of methenolone enanthate according to the label and packaging. Samples of this product were purchased from a North American-based authorized distributor between the dates of June 1, 2015 and June 30, 2015. The samples were forwarded and received by the analytical laboratory SIMEC AG for HPLC-UV testing on July 20, 2015. The quantitative dosage testing report was completed on August 10, 2015. The product was identified with a batch number of 604331 and an expiration date of June 2017. The “quality code” listed on the product was “2v8friq4cx”. The quality code was successfully used to authenticate/verify the product on pharmacomlabs.com/code.
Label claim: Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Prim 100 has a label claim of 100 mg/mL of methenolone enanthate.
Actual content: Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Prim 100 was determined to have actual content of 95.0 mg/mL of methenolone enanthate.
(The following images are photographs of the actual product that was submitted for testing.)
@Darius
I had a blood test a week after starting the "primo" - it showed my testosterone levels as being 5130. I get my testosterone levels checked regularly due to ongoing medical treatment. My normal test is 300-400 and has been stable at that level for a couple of years. The only physical way that my level could be as high as 5130 is if I am taking large quantities of test externally, which at the 600mg/week I have been taking is a reasonable dose of test.
I am not going to pay $1000 to send it to a lab and just "trust" that you will pay me back
Also, it was primo 200 I purchased.
@theslice
Dear Sir, read again .. we'll give you 1.000$ if the lab rest results are bad, you test it anywhere you want and make the results public. Use an authorized testing place and we'll send you the testing cost through bank account, before.
Another interesting thing is that the manufacturing of our Primo 200, the product you mentioned to use, was suspended for more than a year and it was resumed several 1 week ago.
@Darius
OK what I propose to do is to redo my blood test to make sure there was nothing wrong with the test its self. Once I have those results I will be in touch.
I am more than happy to send the product for testing as long as you are prepared to pay for the testing upfront
@theslice
Hi Darius,
Just to let you know, I have just done a Labmax test on the Pharmacom Primo 100 and it tested positive for Sustanon. I am completely disgusted and will be making sure as many people in the community know not to use Pharmacom. I appreciate the offer of $1000 if I get an independant lab to verify my findings but I have absolutely zero trust and do not feel the need to waste my time or my money any further. My blood work is telling me its Test, my Labmax is telling me its Test and my body is telling me its Test.
Disgusting business practices
@theslice
Hello Sir!
Pharmacom is the oldest and top rated supplier from Eroids with more than 8.000 unique reviews with our products being sold by multiple sources from this board with great reviews.
We're present on all the major steroid boards, widely reviewed and lab tested ... with tens of customers each month taking advantage of our free lab testing offer.
Trying to discredit our reputation is a lost cause, our transparency level is maximum and a basic documentation of our services, products and IFBB sponsored athletes would make everyone aware of the truth.
Please provide us with your order number if you really ordered from an authorized Pharmacom and please accept to send an unopened vial for lab testing, on our expense to an accredited laboratory of your choice.
it will be an easy way of making 1.000$ if you're right.
@Darius
Hi Darius, I have nothing to gain by trying to discredit your lab.
I wanted Primobolan and the last thing I wanted was for the product to be fake however the facts indicate that it was.
I know many people have had a good experience with your products, I have found other people on the boards who have had test instead of primobolan. I would agree that the overwhelming majority are happy however there are some who have found a couple of others who have found themselves in my position.
All I can go on are the facts:
My blood test shows my Testosterone levels increased from 14.9 to to 176 within days taking your product, fact!
I was taking no additional products other than the Primo 100
Unless I am mistaken, Primobolan would not effect the Serum Testesterone reading, I would be happy to be corrected.
I am running another blood test this week to be 100% sure
I felt physical effect from the product days after starting, dont get me wrong, I felt great but this is not expected with Primobolan in such a short time.
I completed a Labmax test of the product and it showed as Sustanon - Fact. I fully appreciate that the Labmax tests are not an accredited lab however they are a VERY good indicator.
I will take you up on the offer of the testing however this does still will not really prove that what I took was not testesterone;
I am not saying that every Primobolan vial you sell is fake, I am saying however that the one I injected significantly increased my T levels and showed on labmax as Sustanon.
It is entirely possible, and more than likely, that not all of your vials are fake, even if 10% of your vials of Primobolan are in-fact another cheeper compound, it will still be vastly more profitable for Pharmacom. Even if 1% of them are a cheeper compound it would be in the interests of profit and explain why you are so confident in the lab test
I am more interested doing a lab test on the vial I actually injected, that would be the only way you could prove that what I injected was Primobolan.
I am happy to forego the $1000 if you are prepared to test the vial I used.
I just want to be able to purchase Primobolan without getting Testosterone and warn others of the risk of purchasing Primobolan from Pharmacom, even if that risk is tiny, peope have a right to know.
FYI The order number is 52854. I am not prepared to name the source as I do not think it would be fair to damage their reputation due to the apparent inconsistency of your products. I can confirm that that are an authorised dealer, according to the Pharmacom website and the serial number was confirmed and being legit on your web site.
@theslice
You are not prepared to name the source because there isn't any. You don't want to give their name because you don't want to damage their reputation but that's exactly your main purpose and what you're trying to do here.
All complaints should have the order number plus the name of the source so we could validate that the transaction really took place.
Also, it was primo 200 I purchased.
.
I was taking no additional products other than the Primo 100
You first stated that it was Primo 200 and after i told you that it was no longer produced for more than a year you changed it to Primo 100. You're embarrassing yourself Sir.
I have found other people on the boards who have had test instead of primobolan.
Where have you found that? Send us links so we can all see. Did they also registered on those boards on the same day of their posting, just like you did here?
You want to send an opened vial for lab testing even if you stated you have more from the same product? You're speaking about Labmax and blood test restuls with absolutely no proofs. Did you make a video while you opened the vial and have it labmaxed, just like all the guys on the boards do it? Where is your blood test result, why don't you post it?
Unlike you, we're always transparent and we're offering a full display of our manufacturing process, lab tests and professional athletes who're using our products.
pharmacomstore.org/innovations/
pharmacomstore.org/labtests/
pharmacomstore.org/our-athletes/
http://anaboliclab.com/
@Darius
Hi Darius,
There is no need to get so worked up, you are the one who is starting to embarrass yourself.
The reason why I did not want to name the source is that they are not the manufacturer therefore are not responsible for what is in the bottle. in the intrest of transparency, it is 101fitnesspharma. who may I add, have been excellent to deal with.
I am unable to post pictures on the reply, can you send me your email address, I will send all the pictures of the labmax and the blood tests to you directly.
I will also send you the link where other users have found issues with the legitimacy of pharmacom primobolan.
The reason why I have only just registered on this forum is it is the first time I have had cause for complaint, I am not a seasoned AAS user so this is the first time I have had to complain or conduct labmax tests.
I am also running a new blood test shortly, if it transpires that I am incorrect, I will publicly apologies. I have heard nothing but good things about Pharmacom, which is why i purchased your product, I am also not saying all your primobolan is fake, what I am saying is the promobolan which I purchased has impacted my testesterone levels, which Primobolan should not do.
Please email me directly and I will send you all pictures and blood tests etc
RingMeister01
Member
I say theslice is shillin
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For whom?
CdnGuy
New Member
To bad the primo wasn't sent to be tested. Oh wait it might take over 2 months too test it. 
cough cough
cough coughYou're a WKM. My shipment requires a signature. What's the right play in this situation?To bad the primo wasn't sent to be tested. Oh wait it might take over 2 months too test it.
I've searched and found varying answers.
CdnGuy
New Member
I pleaded the fifth...
Its not a "for" its just a hit piece.
Varying answers on packs needing to be signed for? If packs need to be signed for from time to time for whatever reason then I'd say sign.
You won't get a reship as the pack made it through customs. There's no such thing as "risk free" in this thing we do.
It makes our lives more exciting. You'll feel alive. Pulses of adrenaline all day long leading up to the event. You'll need a nap after you sign and receive your pack.
If it's a controlled delivery, it won't be your regular mailman. If you're going to pick up at the post office walk to the counter like you own the place and get your package.
If your order isn't a big order that makes it obvious you're going to be distributing you'll probably be ok. At this point, pharmacom has done their part, now it's up to you.
I was just talking with a guy about 3 months ago who went to pick up his pack at the post office that shipped from China. It was 500 grams of a research chemical that some know better as a "bath salt". He was arrested at his post office and when we met was in transit at a federal holding facility on his way to FCI Sheridan in Oregon.
Sorry, I'm not the brightest guy...was wondering who Ringmeister felt theslice was "shillin" for? His post didn't make sense to me.
I don't get yours, either? What's a "hit piece"?
Colt will you hit me up by Proton mail, please? I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.
CdnGuy
New Member
Hit piece is trying to turn public opinion against someone or something through the appearance of objective reporting.
viking23
New Member
I think he is referring a hit piece as general attack on pharmacom. Not for anyone in particular but that's just how I took it.
RingMeister01
Member
"theslice" didn't post a single scanned copy of his blood tests or any other evidence supporting his claim that the primo was actually sustanon. While Darius posts lab tests all day.
I just don't believe anyone's claims without some support or proof. There are too many motives on ASS forums to rely on ones words alone.
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I just don't believe anyone's claims without some support or proof. There are too many motives on ASS forums to rely on ones words alone.
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Thanks to everyone that helped me understand. D is very thorough.
Dema
Subscriber
First off there are a lot of holes in the guys story...
First dude said he was taking the primo 200 then came back and said it was primo 100.
He said his test levels sky rocked within days of taking the primo... Who take a blood test a couple days after injecting?
Blood test came back over 5000... On 600mg within days of pinning some sust? Yah Id like to see that!
Who runs primo by it self?
It's been pretty obvious latly Pharmacom has some haters... And as everyone knows they will keep coming will more and more b.s. All I know is darius has been great to me.. I even got some primo on the way myself and I aint worried... Yet..lol
First dude said he was taking the primo 200 then came back and said it was primo 100.
He said his test levels sky rocked within days of taking the primo... Who take a blood test a couple days after injecting?
Blood test came back over 5000... On 600mg within days of pinning some sust? Yah Id like to see that!
Who runs primo by it self?
It's been pretty obvious latly Pharmacom has some haters... And as everyone knows they will keep coming will more and more b.s. All I know is darius has been great to me.. I even got some primo on the way myself and I aint worried... Yet..lol
CdnGuy
New Member
Just remember without the "haters" shit doesn't stay legit imo
Guys, you'll find the entire conversation with "theslice" here: Pharmacom Labs reviews. Is Pharmacom Labs scam, fake or legit Lab?
He registered on Eroids on the same day of his post. We sent a friend request that was never accepted and he never gave a response to 2 mods that contacted him.
We had a lot of tests done on that batch of Primo for both raws and final product and I was willing to put 1.000$ on the table for that, as I publicly mentioned.
Did you look at his responses?
theslice : "Also, it was primo 200 I purchased."
..........
darius: Another interesting thing is that the manufacturing of our Primo 200, the product you mentioned to use, was suspended for more than a year and it was resumed several 1 week ago.
........
theslice:
All I can go on are the facts:
My blood test shows my Testosterone levels increased from 14.9 to to 176 within days taking your product, fact!
I was taking no additional products other than the Primo 100
...........
darius:
You first stated that it was Primo 200 and after i told you that it was no longer produced for more than a year you changed it to Primo 100. You're embarrassing yourself Sir.
......
theslice:
I have found other people on the boards who have had test instead of primobolan.
darius:
Where have you found that? Send us links so we can all see. Did they also registered on those boards on the same day of their posting, just like you did here?
This guy could've posted at least some blood results from his Test only cycle and claim he was using Primo only to gain some extra credibility but the discussion lasted for several days and not even a pic of a result.
He registered on Eroids on the same day of his post. We sent a friend request that was never accepted and he never gave a response to 2 mods that contacted him.
We had a lot of tests done on that batch of Primo for both raws and final product and I was willing to put 1.000$ on the table for that, as I publicly mentioned.
Did you look at his responses?
theslice : "Also, it was primo 200 I purchased."
..........
darius: Another interesting thing is that the manufacturing of our Primo 200, the product you mentioned to use, was suspended for more than a year and it was resumed several 1 week ago.
........
theslice:
All I can go on are the facts:
My blood test shows my Testosterone levels increased from 14.9 to to 176 within days taking your product, fact!
I was taking no additional products other than the Primo 100
...........
darius:
You first stated that it was Primo 200 and after i told you that it was no longer produced for more than a year you changed it to Primo 100. You're embarrassing yourself Sir.
......
theslice:
I have found other people on the boards who have had test instead of primobolan.
darius:
Where have you found that? Send us links so we can all see. Did they also registered on those boards on the same day of their posting, just like you did here?
This guy could've posted at least some blood results from his Test only cycle and claim he was using Primo only to gain some extra credibility but the discussion lasted for several days and not even a pic of a result.
theslice:
FYI The order number is 52854. I am not prepared to name the source as I do not think it would be fair to damage their reputation due to the apparent inconsistency of your products. I can confirm that that are an authorised dealer, according to the Pharmacom website and the serial number was confirmed and being legit on your web site.
He's not prepared to name the source not to damage their reputation? WTF !?
That order number is also most probably fictive, you all know that me and Frank don't use 5 digits order numbers.
FYI The order number is 52854. I am not prepared to name the source as I do not think it would be fair to damage their reputation due to the apparent inconsistency of your products. I can confirm that that are an authorised dealer, according to the Pharmacom website and the serial number was confirmed and being legit on your web site.
He's not prepared to name the source not to damage their reputation? WTF !?
That order number is also most probably fictive, you all know that me and Frank don't use 5 digits order numbers.
Wylde556
New Member
I recieved the other half of my order today, making it 3 weeks total from both the EU and Asia warehouses. Recieved a little more than what I ordered, so the extra wait was worth while. I ordered during the Pangea bs, so it wasn't Darius' fault, yet he still pulled through. Thanks bud.
My re-ship from Pharmacom's "premium" warehouse was a fail. For some reason my delivery was one of the few that required a signature. I wasn't told why or warned. First order was a seizure. Second one required a sig. I'm not signing shit. Im done with Pharmacom. Lost $$$ and time. Never again.
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