picholas
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How many mg of test vs how many mg of deca is in that mix?
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How many mg of test vs how many mg of deca is in that mix?
Jason Haas
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It's a 2/1 ratio. Each cc is 400 test 200 nandrolone
picholas
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I would expect that number to a lot higher @ 800mg of test a week...
@Roger rabbit
@mands
@Evom1
You three are some of the more knowledgeable people I've spoke to thus far on this site, thoughts?
I think those numbers aren't unusual, based on him doing 400mg of test twice a week
picholas
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According to an official clinical application :
25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370 ng/dl
250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl
500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl
750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's
picholas
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Mid cycle Bloods
He's at half the dose, pharmacon test as well, and just 500 under....
Pharmasource test Bloodwork
He's at 500mg a week and higher (different source)....
I feel like that's very very low for 800mg a week....
it's so hard to figure how people respond to test in terms of bloodwork, and splitting the dose changes the peak value alot. the only way to compare would be too run a different source and see how it compares
picholas
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Yeah, but 800mg a week, should be well into the 3,000s for anyone, no?
like I said, splitting the doses throws the peak value way off. Been watching that debate in the lab section for years. BTW, not defending this source or gear, I use another sources for the most part
picholas
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Oh I am not even blaming the gear, I am just curious why that dose would yield those results. I don't fully understand it myself, that's why I tagged those other people lol
Yeah, @Roger rabbit explains it way better than me
I believe those numbers are nadir levels if I recall the study.
Yes, I would suspect peak levels would be much higher at 800mg a test a week. I would think in the 4000ng/dl range at least.
But, as @rpbb alluded to here there are other factors at play. Time of labs after last injection, other labs to compare numbers aren't available, individual response, etc.
I know after one injection of 400mg test cyp at peak levels I am in the 3500 range(I would have to look).
mands
I believe he taken his bloods at 8 weeks.
If I recall correctly, levels max out at week 6
Here is the study!
Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men. - PubMed - NCBI
weekly injections of 25, 50, 125, 300, or 600 mg of testosterone enanthate for 20 wk. Energy and protein intakes were standardized. The administration of the GnRH agonist plus graded doses of testosterone resulted in mean nadir testosterone concentrations of 253, 306, 542, 1,345, and 2,370 ng/dl at the 25-, 50-, 125-, 300-, and 600-mg doses.
mands
Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men. - PubMed - NCBI
weekly injections of 25, 50, 125, 300, or 600 mg of testosterone enanthate for 20 wk. Energy and protein intakes were standardized. The administration of the GnRH agonist plus graded doses of testosterone resulted in mean nadir testosterone concentrations of 253, 306, 542, 1,345, and 2,370 ng/dl at the 25-, 50-, 125-, 300-, and 600-mg doses.
mands
picholas
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When was the lab taken in terms of your last injection? Can you provide more information?
So at 8 weeks in at a consistent dose, his numbers shouldn't be dropping from the max, they should be staying pretty level?
@mands
What I asked right above, was wondering what you thought. And are those individual factors enough to make it 1000-1500ng/dl lower than expected?
The important question... how are you feeling ?
Bloods are very important because it shows if the products is legit or not, but getting bloods is a very tricky thing.
How long did you get the bloods from your last pin?
Did you have sex the night before ?
Where you fasted ?
Was of taken in the morning ?
A lot of things can alter and dictate numbers ...
Awhile ago, at 400-500/wk my test I was at 1600...
Sent my vial to Analyzer and the dosage tested as label claim.
Twice a week, closer to 250/shot. (Didn't really pay attention, didn't overly care)
48 hrs test E post shot. 6 weeks in.
48 hrs test E post shot. 6 weeks in.
At 500 a week , 48 hours after pin at 1600? I’d be lying if I said that isn’t on the low side. How were you feeling ? What was your free test ?
Did you test in the morning ? We’re you sexually active the night before ?
I don’t doubt pcom quality and as you stated, it was accurate doses, but that seems weird.
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