subq injecting first test cycle

[azx77p2p]

Enjoying reading this thread. About to hop on tomorrow. Does this look alright?

Week 1-12- Test E 500mg (250mg monday and thursday)
Week 6-12 - 30mg anavar

Week 1-12 - 500UI HCG (monday and thursday)
Week 1-12 - 0.5mg arimidex every 3.5 days (or as required)
Week 14-20 - 10mg nolvadex

 

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Why are you adding an oral in after 6 weeks?

 

[azx77p2p]

Why are you adding an oral in after 6 weeks?

Waiting for the test to fully kick in which I read takes a little bit. I think overall its still a beginner cycle no?

 

[MFAAS]

Waiting for the test to fully kick in which I read takes a little bit. I think overall its still a beginner cycle no?

I would avoid it. You will get plenty of gains from just the test alone. No need for anavar in there too. You might not even fully have your e2 under control yet, then you throw an oral that skyrockets free test and you've got a recipe for estrogen issues and a disappointing cycle.

Just do the test at 500 mg and learn how your body responds to it. It takes a loong time to figure out what your personal signs of high and low e2 are. It can be really confusing! Leave the anavar out for next time.

 

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Waiting for the test to fully kick in which I read takes a little bit.

So IF you were going to use an oral, you use them at the start of the cycle... not the middle... they are there to help frontload while the longer half-lived compounds kick in.

There is ZERO need for it on a beginner cycle. You are simply adding in liver toxicity for no benefit.

 

[HKOX]

I just did my first cycle (test only, but then added a small amount of NPP) and gained 12lbs. Kept almost all of it since I cruised after. I'm on Anavar and Primo as well for the second cycle, and just added low dose Tren E. I also suggest you start off with test only. If there are any issues you'll know it's just the test.

With Test E I'd go subQ EOD personally, or even ED. I use prop ED because it's available for veterinary use here (and extremely cheap).

I also wouldn't use the AI unless you see that you need it. I'd keep it on hand just in case. I didn't use one and I was fine, but I realize now I had some minor high E symptoms (my recovery and strength took a minor hit and I had a little bloat, but I just kept growing regardless). Primobolan has negated those symptoms very well for me on my second cycle.

 

[Jamesthompson0987654321]

Ah shit, its expiry date is 2025 so should I hold off and get standard 250mg/ml or just dive in. How much more painful would it be

I don’t know shit compared to these guys first off but my first shots I was pinning three times a week and the first few had some pain till my muscles got used to it. But you will see better results if you use a 21 to 23 gage 1 1/2 inches and just do one shot a week in your glutes. Just my opinion. Why do a cycle unless you’re going to try to get the best results!!!