Supra rHGH

[2ez]

I can't find anything with the search function. any comments on this long acting GH ?


some appreciate having more control over the dose being released and will opt not to use...while others are saying it is good to go. Please tell me what you think.

Thanks in advance !


2ez


FYI -

I had to register with a new ID. My old ID was 2ez2brich. I was one of the old Modz at Rock's and MuscleMax. both boards are long gone. I have been cycling since 1989. Not a vet nor guru...just 2ez..hehe

 

[einstein1905]

I can't find anything with the search function. any comments on this long acting GH ?


some appreciate having more control over the dose being released and will opt not to use...while others are saying it is good to go. Please tell me what you think.

Thanks in advance !


2ez


FYI -

I had to register with a new ID. My old ID was 2ez2brich. I was one of the old Modz at Rock's and MuscleMax. both boards are long gone. I have been cycling since 1989. Not a vet nor guru...just 2ez..hehe

I'm not exactly familiar with how his "long-acting" GH works, but the most common way to extend the life of proteins is to fuse them to albumin or a part thereof. Even things like nutropin, which release GH over time aren't good ideas IMO. They are designed for people who are severely GH deficient, so that their own endogenous GH production is negligible. For us, with normal GH production, we can still fully take advantage of (or at least to a good extent) our own endogenous GH release by timing the administrations just right. With long acting or slow releasing GH, you have a prolonged negative feedback mechanism in play, inhibiting your own GH production/release. it may only be a difference of 1IU or so/day, but that's still 1 free IU/day that we don't need to be paying for.
With GH-deficient individuals, their own GH production is effectively negligible, so they're relying solely on exogenous GH....that's where slow-releasing GH has convenience and good application.

 

[2ez]

I appreciate the reply bro.


So it sounds one may want to stick with the more frequent injections (Jin, sero ....etc) as to not hinder the Natural GH production.

 

[einstein1905]

I appreciate the reply bro.


So it sounds one may want to stick with the more frequent injections (Jin, sero ....etc) as to not hinder the Natural GH production.

That's definitely my stance on things. Although ANY exogenous GH will hinder endogenous GH release to some degree, with the nonlong-acting GH, we have the flexibility to use a dosing schedule that would least suppress (mainly by allowing for endogenous nocturnal GH release) our own GH production/release. I'd like to hear what Granville has to say on this too.

 

[GRANVILLE]

That's definitely my stance on things. Although ANY exogenous GH will hinder endogenous GH release to some degree, with the nonlong-acting GH, we have the flexibility to use a dosing schedule that would least suppress (mainly by allowing for endogenous nocturnal GH release) our own GH production/release. I'd like to hear what Granville has to say on this too.

I agree entirely, and I am VERY wary of any "slow release" growth for anyone who's own production is adequate, as Einstein says it was produced for those poor individuals whos own growth is completely compromised. I do feel that long term use of first thing a.m. doesn't do much damage to ones endogenous production, although on tests with rats all showed compromised production, even quite long term when p.m. injections are used. I am still researching the "repair axis" associated with growth, and my current thoughts (backed up by extensive rat tests) are that long term exogenous early a.m. introductions help "mend" damaged organs, and as such can very often improve your own endogenous nocturnal release, my own has bounced back to what it should have been when I was 20ish, and I'm 40 now, although I can't substantiate this as I dont have my levels from when I was 20. Tests on older rats have all shown increased endogenous nocturnal growth production after 6 months of early a.m. exogenous additions.

 

[graybass]

Long acting HGH

What they said!

 

[2ez]

Seems like fellaz are sacrificing a lot for the sake of the convenience of less dosing. Looks like Jin is winning the battle.

I appreciate the help fellaz.

 

[2ez]

O.k. so my next cycle looks like this:


1. GH 4iu/day first 2 months (5on/2off), 2iu/day next 3-4 months. Split AM/PM dose.

2. Test 750mg / week. I will start with Iranian Enanthate and end with Sus. 10 -12wks.

3. 10 -15mg of Dbol / day for 5wks. I have always liked to kick start cycle with low dbol dose. I will use Liquid Dbol. A friend makes it.

I believe in keeping things simple. as i have read here before...more gear does not equate to more muscle. Keep it simple !


I am prone to gyno and Eq makes me sick.

 

[GRANVILLE]

O.k. so my next cycle looks like this:


1. GH 4iu/day first 2 months (5on/2off), 2iu/day next 3-4 months. Split AM/PM dose.

2. Test 750mg / week. I will start with Iranian Enanthate and end with Sus. 10 -12wks.

3. 10 -15mg of Dbol / day for 5wks. I have always liked to kick start cycle with low dbol dose. I will use Liquid Dbol. A friend makes it.

I believe in keeping things simple. as i have read here before...more gear does not equate to more muscle. Keep it simple !


I am prone to gyno and Eq makes me sick.

From Einsteins feelings and the research I have outlined, I think you would be well advised to keep any growth injections to as early as possible each day to cut the chances drastically of compromising your own growth production, both long and short term

 

[2ez]

Just so I know we are on the same page...are you saying to dose the entire 4iu in the early AM and forget about PM shots ?


Thanks in advance !

 

[GRANVILLE]

Just so I know we are on the same page...are you saying to dose the entire 4iu in the early AM and forget about PM shots ?


Thanks in advance !

That would certainly be my advice from the extensive studies I have done, I have used up to 10ius per hit 5 on 2 off with no problems. I am currently using only 1iu per day (2 years down the line) and still having good results, I'm assuming I have "repaired" all I can repair, and that I now only need a low level to achieve results, hope this helps

 

[superman]

That would certainly be my advice from the extensive studies I have done, I have used up to 10ius per hit 5 on 2 off with no problems. I am currently using only 1iu per day (2 years down the line) and still having good results, I'm assuming I have "repaired" all I can repair, and that I now only need a low level to achieve results, hope this helps

Just so I am clear, when you say the early AM do you mean at 7AM when I awake, or even earlier than that? While we're on this subject let me ask those of you who have used Jin a question. I have been on for 4 weeks now at 3iu's a day. My main concern is fat loss, I am on growth, eq, clen, and arimidex. I am not experiencing much fat loss atleast no more than if I were using clen alone. Is time of the essence here? Does it simply take longer to notice results from the clen??? Also, any good reason to go 5 on 2 off? I have read that it is better to stay on every day.

Thanks Brothers- SUPERMAN

 

[einstein1905]

The fatloss with GH certainly isn't miraculous....it'll usually take a couple of months to notice significant results in that area. The results of GH administrations are additive, so ED administrations are better than any on/off schedule as far as results/unit time. If you're solely using GH for fatloss (not recommended), then supplementing with T3 would be a good idea, since exogenous GH will decrease endogenous T3 production/conversion.